Do we have any vaccinated individuals in this community? If you are one of them, would you be open to talk about this a little? I have only one question (that really expands into a couple, but it's generally one) which I haven't asked like this before but it's mainly because of this website (where we are) and the information it can provide (what we know). The questions are: Why, when, and do you think you made the right choice or was it a mistake? What did you take, would you recommend it here, and can you provide sources/anything that would convince?
Please note that this isn't to start a flame war or anything like that. No arguments, no negativity. Just respectful, mature conversations and sharing knowledge. I don't want to troll anyone and I don't want anybody else to be trolled. I want to ask, learn and I think we should be able to have healthy talks like this. I'm hoping that this doesn't break any rules. I think it's very possible to be having people from "both sides" even if it may seem otherwise, and so we must make an attempt to connect. I hope no one gets me wrong.
OMG, are you ever in trouble now! I don't think it's possible to be more wrong. How DARE you ask questions on this site!
Please forgive me! I will repent for the rest of my life.
Inadequate! Your only hope for redemption at this point is to make a large donation to our hamster fund. I guarantee they might not spend it on booze or ammo.
I am holding off getting a vaccine for as long as I can. If I absolutely have to get it (am forced to by mandate or something), I will choose the safest one. There are like 4 of them available. My family and friends know a guy who got really sick from the Astra Zeneca one. But I am sure some of the others are relatively safe. I have taken pharmaceuticals for 25 years of my life, so more pharma toxins probably won't kill me!
Initial autopsy report was "NOT NATURAL CAUSES", but we have to wait four months for the full report.
He was only 50, in great health, dead for no other reason. Got double-vaxxed.... now dead.
Rest of my family was vaxxed (only two of us weren't), I recommended they find out out about their BATCH NUMBER to see if they got a bad one.
*** How Bad is My Batch Are some batches more toxic than others? https://howbad.info/
Batch codes and associated deaths, disabilities and illnesses for Covid 19 Vaccines
I do believe there is hope for the vaxxed to detox. Been trying to recommend the Vaxx Secrets 2022, and other resources I'm aware of for those now concerned about the great die-off that has already started, and will continue over next 2 years (according to Clif High, and the various anti-vaxx doctors who have identified how and why these are killing people).
That's awful, it shouldn't be happening.
I hope you get justice. I hope all the vaccine injured and murdered get justice. I've hoped for that for a decade, and honestly, in many ways the covid vaccines are the answer to that prayer. There will reach a critical mass of people who have been injured or murdered and the people who believe them.
We'll get liability returned to manufacturers.
We'll get vaccines taken out of schools forever.
We'll get mandates banned forever.
Safer alternatives properly investigated and accepted.
My condolences. I hope your family gets justice.
Thanks for asking your questions in a way that is conducive to real discourse! Wow, you deserve the concen gold star award
In case of interest, Dr Robert Mallone talks about his own vaccination in the JRE interview around the 40 and 45:00 minute mark
transcript here
https://covidvaccinesideeffects.com/joe-rogan-interview-with-dr-robert-m...
One other point to lend toward a healthy discussion: the sheer number of vaccinations in many countries renders arguments of danger or safety moot; if 99% of Emiratis are vaccinated you would expect to see either harm or non-harm. So what do we see?
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
I am opposed mostly to the draconian way in which we can *not* talk about this, either for or against.
Neil young and Joni Mitchell want Spotify to shut down Joe Rogan? wtf?
but here on this board, we must be brave to talk about getting vaccinated? huh?
It doesn't add up
I won't ever get it. They'd have to physically pin me down and in the event I could prepare for that I would arm myself and take as many of them with me as I could.
Even if I thought it was completely safe, I just don't need it.
I have a cupboard full of HCQ and IVM and I don't even think they are necessary - I also have Elderberry and Blackseed Oil which are actually just as effective if you know what you are doing. That's before Vitamin D, C, etc.
I haven't had covid symptoms even though someone in my household spent a week sick with it and I hugged them and looked after them and made sure they treated it properly. They are unjabbed.
In 2021 I had a nosebleed and a head cold directly after someone else in my household got the AZ jab, and a head cold on and off for a month after the same person got a pfizer booster. That's the worst I've been flu-like sick for years. It wouldn't surprise me if I'd tested positive, but I don't get tests and put that down to vaccine shedding. I almost never get nosebleeds.
A little education and $150 off amazon should be enough for anyone to prepare more than adequately for covid, without risking the jabs which are clearly deadly.
Same boat. It seems like the "safest one" falls in the inactivated vaccines category from what I've researched and heard.
That's unfortunate. My condolences.
Regarding detoxing and general protection, I recall the niatonin protocol. More info here. I snatched the Vaccine Secrets torrents but I haven't watched them yet. There are many ways we can stay healthy and protected, I hate where we've gotten that most think otherwise. There's not just one way. I refuse to believe this.
One month in and I'm already deserving of an award. Hopefully that hamster fund person is reading this.
be unable to pay bills, mortgage etc and would not be able to travel for work and become homeless.
going between Malta, Netherlands and Italy has been important to me for work stuff. Especuially malta.
Also some of the contracts i have include Military places here in Scotland where it's mandated.
and I have Gult War syndrome along with the associated COPD as a result of breathing in a metric fuck tonne of oily as fuck air in Kuwait on the 1st gulf war. every oil installation was set alight by the rapidly retreating Iraqis you went out and within 20 minutes you were covered in a film on oily shit and we were issued FUCK ALL mask wise for it.
I had gone as long as i could but the money reserves were running out and i need a roof over my head and to be able to travel for work and get into the places i work.
Now i can work again and am booked to get back to Malta for a week work in April and soon after some work near Arnhem in the Netherlands which i got the chance of in November when i was over there.
without it i would be absolutely fucked for work and thus fucked for paying the mortgage,bills etc.
the choice was get it or be " shit out of luck and jolly well fucked" as George Carlin once said.
so in short.. I held out till i was financially unable to continue.
That's messed up but I totally get it. So many of our people had to go through with it simply because otherwise they'd be in a crappy situation if they didn't.
With that said, which one did you take? How long ago was it, what did you feel then and how do you feel now? Regarding symptoms, side effects and so on. Did you take any supplements or change your diet as a way to protect yourself during/after?
astra zeneca for all three shots.
first one felt shitty after 8 hours. fevers then chills for 4 days.
Same with number 2 and nothing with number 3.
I have been taking D3,Zinc,K2 mk7 and C for years. Scotland just ain't sunny enough in Autumn/Winter to get yer D3 from so suppliments it is.
I held out for 7 months after the vaccine release s that was coming up to 18 months with sporadic work and bills headingh northwards.
compounding it is the silicon shortage, specifically GPU's which in the custom PC's i build for mewdia creation and VR use need meaty gfx cards but the prices have been beyond pant-shitting level and i cannot in good conscience recommend buying just now really.
Second jab was 11 weeks later and then the booster was a week before xmas.
without it as i said it would have been an apocalypse on the household and I have my 15 year old son and 19 year old daughter living with me so it's not just about me.
I have no feeling of being different now as to before getting them to be honest.
I tend to eat healthy, fresh ingredients, freshly cooked food made here at home.
Thank you for answering! I'm glad you and your family are well.
https://www.americaoutloud.com/this-week-in-covid-vaccine-failure-skyroc...
Experimental COVID Inoculations have failed to protect over 6 million ‘fully vaccinated’ Americans from infection, an increase of more than 3.5 million confirmed failures in only 1 month and with only 28 state health departments reporting.
More than 138,000 ‘fully vaccinated’ Americans have been hospitalized due to COVID, with only 28 state health departments reporting.
More than 32,000 ‘fully vaccinated’ Americans have died due to COVID, with only 28 state health departments reporting.
Vaccine Failure Skyrockets To Over 6 Million!
On October 30th, 2021, the CDC officially stopped all reporting on vaccine efficacy failure, otherwise known as vaccine breakthrough.
It came with little fanfare, no press briefing, and no one seemed to notice.
Earlier in the year, on April 30th, 2021, the CDC had stopped reporting on vaccine breakthrough cases, electing to report only vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths.
Some questioned the move, but others knew exactly why…the CDC had a big problem on its hands.
The mantra has always been these experimental inoculations are “Safe & Effective”, but no matter how many times you repeat that over and over, just saying it doesn’t make it so.
What if safety data showed that at least 1 million people had been injured in a single year?
And what if that safety data showed that there were over 4,000 Myocarditis/Pericarditis injuries in Americans under 30 years of age when that number should be zero or very close to zero?
And what if that safety data showed that there were more than 100,000 hospitalizations, 25,000 life-threatening situations, and 39,000 permanent injuries?
Would you think that there is no risk? Could you be 100% certain that you wouldn’t be next?
Well, what if I told you that in addition to that, there were over 20,000 deaths and that well over 6,000 of them occurred within 48 hours of getting the shot?
How would you feel about these experimental products?
And then what if I told you that, according to whistleblowers, the injuries and deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) were underreported by at least 5 times what they should be and could be underreported by as much as 31 times what they should be?
Does that sound like a safe product to you?
If it does, then I challenge you to name one medical product in history with similar safety signals that remained on the market. Good luck, you won’t be able to.
Okay, so you are saying that we cannot trust any of the numbers out there.
Then how can we trust the numbers you are presenting?
It doesn't make sense.
With respect, the original poster asked who had undergone vaccination, and why. He didn't ask who here does not want to get vaccinated, and why. Yet that is exactly what a few people replied with. These reflexive responses jjust have a chilling effect on other people speaking up.
In any case, I agree it is a tempestuous time.
I should have held back on my response, but I wanted to get the ball rolling! I think the main issue the OP wanted to know was how has anybody who has been vaccinated reacted to the doses and how does it feel etc. A lot of people are just scared of vaccines, no matter what it is for. There is a lot of fear on both sides of this issue. But ultimately I respect the freedom of choice when it comes to medicine...
Yah, I get it. I imagine many members here have concerns that are simply not being voiced or heard anywhere else. So Concen is a valuable forum, without doubt.
It is just that I don't think anybody has actually asked -- in earnest -- whether other members here have gotten vaccinated. I can vouch for not having any choice in the matter due to personal circumstances. Frankly, I have had many, many different immunizations. That is not what worries me; what gets my goat is when people are not allowed to have an opinion on the matter (for or against), and we are seeing now how complicated things get when it comes to state mandated health. But this is not new, and I posted about it earlier in terms of authoritarianism (leftwing OR rightwing) and pathogen avoidance.
https://concen.org/content/testimonies-project-hebrew-subs-about-120-lan... [scroll down a bit]
I am not sure. Why are you asking this question, Anausa? At least tell us that. Are you contemplating getting the vaccine and looking for user feedback here? Or is this indeed moving slowly toward a flamewar?
This. Yes.
You are both right. But my thing is that we must be able to have these conversations without it turning into a flame war, rather we should have these conversations to help each other out and share the knowledge we got. At the end of the day, to each their own... I don't have anything against anybody who is for the vaccine, or against it. Like most of us here, I do not see it as the only solution and if you notice what I did there... I do see it as one solution and for the most part, it seems like it is and I'm basing this on what I'm seeing in real life and not on my screen—mainly because everyone I know and don't know has gotten it, and they seem to be doing alright. Then there's me, I haven't taken it and I'd rather look for alternatives, and to this day, I also seem to be doing alright. So why not talk without having an us versus them type of behavior? It's like this everywhere, online and offline, but I guess I'm staying hopeful that certain places, corners and people still exist that can help fight back in healthy ways.
It's not just one reason but a chunk of it is in the paragraph above. But I'll do my best to make it clear. I am indeed contemplating getting vaccinated although it's a very small part of me that makes me want to rethink my choice about it. Yet it's not why I asked the question... You mention how ConCen is a valuable forum and this is the biggest reason why I'm asking it here, I mentioned this in my first post, that it's because of where we are and what we know (ConCen and the information it provides).
If you see my interaction with pax, this is the type of response I'm looking for. I'm not mad that the majority of the responses were the opposite, I expected it. I don't know how big this community is, but I do know that I'm wrong if I was to take a look at it and go like "yup, seems like everyone here is against the vaccine/not vaccinated" because that is just silly. I'm new here and I don't know who the person is but someone like pax should be able to have a voice, say whatever they said, and more—without getting attacked, made fun of, or anything like that—because we are all the same.
Either way, we all have one common enemy. At this point I don't know if I answered your question, I hope I did. My apologies if I failed to do so. I guess it's simply not just one reason/answer.
nice, that is my thing, too, but even so people here quickly tried to shut basic conversation down with insults and threats.
thank you for explaining more.
I am VERY supportive of your efforts and will defend them. I tried to reach common ground [as "euxconcen"] about a year ago:
https://concen.org/content/vernon-coleman-2021-02-02-doctors-and-nurses-...
and a bit earlier:
https://concen.org/content/covid-pcr-test-debunked
ironically or not, pax is probably the bravest guy on this board. definitely one of the toughest.
huh? what enemy is that?
sure! thanks for answering in a reasonable way, without trying to shout or shut the other down. cheers
I believe its up to the individual. You want the shot? Get it.
The gub'ment wants the weakest links gone.
Respectfully, I don't think this is helpful or necessary... Whoever has taken the shot is not the "weakest link" and the "weakest links" include some of your own.
Anausa is spot on. your response was good in 1st sentence....... but you just can't seem to help yourself and have a dig in the second.
it's about as helpful as a chocolate fucking condom to the conversation really.
So you'd go homeless and hungry then pal and leave yer kids homeless and hungry too?
not a fucking chance you arrogant little shit
Covid-19 as most should have realized by now is a psyop, and is only of concern for people that already have one foot in the grave. The rest is pure depopulation agenda. Hospital protocols are changed to become "Covid" death factories. The mRNA "vaccines" have been confirmed by Doctors and Scientists on multiple continents to contain self-assembling nanotechnology. Much of the information I am processing suggests that the victims of this holocaust will be fully known in the next 1-3 years as the Great Die-off begins.
In general, we are learning more and more every day about the vaccination agenda, containing every form of toxin that you would want to avoid on a lifetime basis being injected and able to cross the blood-brain barrier, leading downstream to customers addicted to Big Pharma toxins for the rest of their lives. Toxins you ask? Take a bottle of anything you get via prescription. Eat the whole thing. Chances are? You're dead. What does that suggest? You died from toxins. Enough said.
A previous poster suggested going to howbad.info to see open source analysis of vaccine batches teased out of the VAERS database to find that some batches of these toxic shots are more deadly than others, coming in cycles (Pfizer hot for a period of time, then, AstraZeneca takes a turn, rotate and continue..) indicating that the population is clearly being used for experimentation while the manufacturers enjoy zero liability.
If you want to take the shot, in spite of available of information, you failed the IQ test and the gene pool will benefit from your removal. Sorry, not sorry. If you took the shot out of fear, out of cowardice, out of "going along to get along", or for fear of the discomfort of having to change jobs - you self scheduled your removal from the gene pool. Sorry, not sorry, do everything you can to heal your damaged body and your polluted blood which is now producing micro clots throughout your body leading to various parts of your system dying, until the entire system eventually collapses.
Go to my website conspyre.tv and scan through the variety of Covid-19 material I have accumulated to confirm everything I stated above. Del Bigtree, Stew Peters, Robert Malone, the list goes on and on, bloody hell, even the detested by some Alex Jones will give you quality information on the topic.
If you want to give me a "shot", be prepared to take two rounds to the center of your body mass first, then see about your ability to administer a hypodermic needle. If necessary I will offer more rounds to make sure that it doesn't happen.
another one that mizses the point of the OP's question.
I do happen to be terminally ill you arrogant bellend. not in the terminal phase but it's in the post.
So you'd let yourself and your family become homeless and hungry?
All you seem to do is advertise your site. If you cannot comprehend that your opinion isn't the only one and that sometimes circumstances are not black and white and life casn be quite complicated for many reasons and not everythign fits into a convenient slot/label. you really do have a lot of utter cockwomble about you son.
in your opinion
in your opinion
that person also claimed that we cannot take the numbers seriously so y'all need to look up the term "tautology"
your opinion is quite clear by now. why do you keep repeating it? are you on drugs?
we have all the info here. what is wrong with you?
your statements show you have not read this thread at all and it is YOU who has an agenda. authoritarian much?
Your thinking is flawed. You make it seem like all prescription drugs and every vaccine is simply just bad, of no use that nothing good can come from them, and shouldn't be taken at all costs. Do you realize that some people actually need certain treatments to heal, function, and protect themselves?
I could list countless diseases/illnesses/disorders but not to go off-topic and for the sake of healthy discourse—I noticed you said mRNA vaccines, then you mentioned a website which shows 3 vaccines and you mentioned 2 of them. Pfizer, which is an mRNA-based vaccine and AstraZeneca, which is a viral vector vaccine. That's 2 different types of vaccines, the other 2 are inactivated vaccines and subunit vaccines. If you take a look at this Wikipedia page, there are at least 30 vaccines for COVID. At least 30!
I say this to say... Does it really, truly, genuinely make sense for you and I to completely disregard these facts only to listen to Alex Jones? With all due respect, do you think that each and every one of these shots are entirely unhelpful and that every single well-read human being working on them isn't trying to save lives? Listen, I'm not asking you to take a goddamn shot, and I'm not denying the existence of vaccination injuries. But I'm also not denying the existence of vaccination benefits (coming from someone who isn't even vaccinated yet), and perhaps this is how or where we're going wrong. I'm thinking out loud here and I'm learning as I go, therefore I do not claim to know everything. No one does.
I'm just saying... There has to be a middle ground in which multiple truths can coexist in. Vaccines are bad? Okay, which ones? Why? How? Can you link legit sources? Prove it! Okay, moving on. Vaccines are good? Okay, which ones? Why? How? Can you link legit sources? Prove it!