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"Alternatives to the internet" thread on the old site

"Alternatives to the internet" thread on the old site

There was a good thread (in fact a 'sticky') that was called "Alternatives to the Internet" on the old Concen site. It might have been in this forum. Anyway, if it is possible...lets revive the thread...it was a good one with valuable information on how to communicate by alternate means to the internet.

Thanks

Easy Skanking
One way or another, all of

One way or another, all of the threads will be back. It just takes time...

Shortwave
OK Thanks

OK Thanks

Shortwave
State Dept-funded program installs alternative networks abroad

(I found that article that I originally posted on the original Concen site with a 'sticky' under the heading of "Alternatives to the Internet" . This was from RT and one of the best mainstream articles I have seen yet describing "mesh" networks. Obviously there is some propaganda in the article, ignore that part and go with the technical aspects and the results of what was done. You will see what I mean.)

State Dept-funded program installs alternative networks abroad

http://rt.com/usa/usaid-commotion-mesh-network-844/

While some security experts have recently accused the United States government of undermining the infrastructure and integrity of the web, the State Department is helping fund a project that lets people connect and communicate over alternative networks.

Since last June, revelations about the US National Security Agency and how it goes about getting intelligence from foreign suspects have continued to surface, in turn rekindling all too routinely allegations about how the internet has been practically obliterated by the NSA.

Leaked intelligence documents disclosed to the media during that span by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden have indeed impacted the way the world sees the American government with regards to protecting a medium of communication that continues to grow. But while these heightened concerns about online privacy are without a doubt warranted thanks to Mr. Snowden's revelations, one former government official now tells the New York Times that a project largely funded by the Department of State is actually making it easier for people in certain parts of the world to communicate and collaborate over a parallel internet of sorts.

“Exactly at the time that the NSA was developing the technology that Snowden has disclosed, the State Department was funding some of the most powerful digital tools to protect freedom of expression around the world,” Ben Scott told the New York Times for an article published in Monday's paper. According to Scott — a former State Dept. official who helped the agency get involved in a program that is putting the web back into the hands of the people — the US government has actually been playing a pivotal role in letting new parts of the world become networked.

“It is in my mind one of the great, unreported ironies of the first Obama administration,” Scott told the Times.

One of those endeavors that's been spearheaded by the State Dept. is Commotion: an open-source toolkit that provides users with the technology to connect wireless devices like laptops and cellphones to a mesh network where they can communicate and share local services.

Unlike the internet as it's largely considered, mesh networks like the ones setup through Commotion don't necessarily allow users to connect and then browse Facebook accounts or check sports scores. Instead, it provides a way for network-ready devices to communicate with one another in the event of an emergency or internet blackout of sorts, and then use common services that are shared throughout the ad hoc networks.

“The technology behind Commotion is designed with the users in mind, specifically to enable them to connect with one another, access information they may not otherwise have access to and take existing community social networks into the 21st century,” Thomas Gideon, the director of the Open Technology Institute's tech team, wrote in a press release issued late last year when beta testing of Commotion 1.0 was completed.

“The release of Commotion 1.0 is exciting for us not only because of the technology itself, but because of the great things communities will be able to do with it as they are able to provide access to broadband where it may not otherwise exist, where it may be cost-prohibitive or where it may be blocked,” Gideon said. “This opens up tremendous opportunities. Whether a community loses traditional infrastructure because of a natural disaster or as the result of a repressive regime, Commotion provides a locally-owned alternative for diverse communities in the United States and around the world.”

In the Times this week, journalists Carlotta Gall and James Glanz explained that a series of Commotion test runs carried out abroad have already helped people create and connect mesh networks when wireless communications might not otherwise be viable. As those reporters wrote, the US State Dept. has handed over $2.8 million to the American technologists working on perfecting Commotion, and networks have already been established around the globe as a result.

A project in the city of Sayada, Tunisia, for example, went live last December with the help of the State Dept. There, according to Commotion's press release at the time, “local media has hailed the deployment of a beta version of Commotion for powering the first free community WiFi network in Tunisia, and serving as a model for the rest of the country for its potential to strengthen democratic institutions and boost social and economic opportunities.”

“The mesh network blankets areas of town including the main street, the weekly market, the town hall and the train station, and users have access to a local server containing Wikipedia in French and Arabic, town street maps, 2,500 free books in French and an app for secure chatting and file sharing,” Gall and Glanx wrote for the Times this week.

According to their report, it only took a small team of technologists and around 50 local residents equipped with routers and wireless devices to get a functional mesh network in place in Sayada for its 14,000 people. The entire process took around two weeks.

But as concerns over internet censorship continue to emerge throughout the world, other locales just like Sayada may start to set up similar networks. According to the December statement from Commotion's team, Somaliland, Dahanu, India, Brooklyn, New York and Detroit, Michigan have all experimented with the system as well.

In Manhattan earlier this month, a group of hackers met up and practiced an imaginary apocalyptic scenario in which the internet spontaneously goes offline.

“It’s comforting to know that someone is preparing for Internet Armageddon, given the events of recent years,”New Yorker journalist Joshua Kopstein recalled afterward. "In 2011, when Hosni Mubarak, then the President of Egypt, instituted a country-wide Internet and cell-phone blackout during that country’s revolution, the concept was relatively new. These days, stories of state-mandated Internet shutdowns have become almost commonplace, forcing us to rethink networks whose resilience we once took for granted.”

And according to the Times, Cuba could be the next locale looking for a solution to that problem. The United States Agency for International Development, or USAID, “awarded a three-year grant to the New America Foundation to make this platform available for adoption in Cuba,” Matt Herrick, a spokesman for the agency, told the paper.

Critics are expected to be quick to condemn that effort, however, given recent news about another USAID program that installed a social network in Cuba per the directive of the US government. The so-called “Cuban Twitter” program revealed earlier this month by the Associated Press has since attracted a fair share of opposition, especially after it was reported that the endeavor wasn't launched solely to let Cubans communicate over a new medium, but rather to encourage revolt by spreading among users political stories critical of that country's government.

Herrick told the Times that the new mesh network program is not operational yet and that no USAID staffers have even ventured to Cuba to begin work on it. According to the Times, however, the agency has already pledged $4.3 million to getting a Commotion mesh network off the ground there, suggesting that the US government is indeed interested in ensuring that, even if privacy on the internet may continue to be eroded by the NSA's practice, the government is giving people somewhere a way — albeit not exactly an entirely secure one — to sign on and share info. In some situations, however, those mesh networks may be the only way that residents will be able to communicate with one another and access information.

nofunclub
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio
A basic packet radio station consists of a computer or dumb terminal, a modem, and a transceiver with an antenna.

One notable detail is that the 2.4 GHz WLAN band partially overlaps an amateur radio band, Thus WLAN hardware can readily be used by licensed amateur radio operators at higher power levels than the "license free" usage allows. The restrictions inherent in Amateur Radio licenses ("signal must be free to receive by anybody", "transmit only between licensed radio amateurs", and "no encryption or other privacy techniques may be used", as well as various content restrictions) prevents this from being an appealing technique for connecting to the internet.

Data link layer: AX.25[edit]
Packet radio networks rely on the AX.25 data link layer protocol, derived from the X.25 protocol suite and intended specifically for amateur radio use. Despite its name, AX.25 defines both the physical and data link layers of the OSI model. (It also defines a network layer protocol, though this is seldom used.)[citation needed]

Network layer[edit]
Packet radio has most often been used for direct, keyboard-to-keyboard connections between stations, either between two live operators or between an operator and a bulletin board system. No network services above the data link layer are required for these applications.

To provide automated routing of data between stations (important for the delivery of electronic mail), several network layer protocols have been developed for use with AX.25. Most prominent among these are NET/ROM & TheNET, ROSE, FlexNet and TexNet.

In principle, any network layer protocol may be used, including the ubiquitous Internet protocol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_multimedia_radio
High-speed multimedia radio (HSMM) is the implementation of wireless data networks over amateur radio frequencies using commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) hardware such as 802.11 access points and D-Star equipment. Only licensed amateur radio operators may use amplifiers and specialized antennas to increase the power and coverage of the 802.11 signal.

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nofunclub
have a look at this

have a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio
A basic packet radio station consists of a computer or dumb terminal, a modem, and a transceiver with an antenna.

One notable detail is that the 2.4 GHz WLAN band partially overlaps an amateur radio band, Thus WLAN hardware can readily be used by licensed amateur radio operators at higher power levels than the "license free" usage allows. The restrictions inherent in Amateur Radio licenses ("signal must be free to receive by anybody", "transmit only between licensed radio amateurs", and "no encryption or other privacy techniques may be used", as well as various content restrictions) prevents this from being an appealing technique for connecting to the internet.

Data link layer: AX.25[edit]
Packet radio networks rely on the AX.25 data link layer protocol, derived from the X.25 protocol suite and intended specifically for amateur radio use. Despite its name, AX.25 defines both the physical and data link layers of the OSI model. (It also defines a network layer protocol, though this is seldom used.)[citation needed]

Network layer[edit]
Packet radio has most often been used for direct, keyboard-to-keyboard connections between stations, either between two live operators or between an operator and a bulletin board system. No network services above the data link layer are required for these applications.

To provide automated routing of data between stations (important for the delivery of electronic mail), several network layer protocols have been developed for use with AX.25. Most prominent among these are NET/ROM & TheNET, ROSE, FlexNet and TexNet.

In principle, any network layer protocol may be used, including the ubiquitous Internet protocol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_multimedia_radio
High-speed multimedia radio (HSMM) is the implementation of wireless data networks over amateur radio frequencies using commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) hardware such as 802.11 access points and D-Star equipment. Only licensed amateur radio operators may use amplifiers and specialized antennas to increase the power and coverage of the 802.11 signal.

psilocybin
Working on the old threads

I've been wrecked with werk shite lately, I'm going to work on the sql conversion coming up.

Shortwave
Packet Radio can legally be used on CB in some EU countries

Packet Radio can legally be used on CB in some EU countries

http://howtocbradio.com/using-data-modes-on-cb-radio

Youtube video of someone from the UK using their computer to talk to Russia via CB Radio Skip on Packet Mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFu71XeM998

Description from the Youtube uploader......

"Uploaded on Nov 18, 2011

Note: THIS IS NOT HAM RADIO.

This is on the CEPT CB band, specifically 27.235Mhz, but instead of the common FM, this is on the SSB mode (note: the signal decoded on either, but more reliably on SSB due to the massive amount of carriers from other stations, somehow the AFSK punched through on top of those carriers).

On my side the radio transmits approximately 8 watts, the other station reports to be running much more (100w) according to the info text received.

This occurred during a massive "Sporadic E" event caused by solar disturbances (sunspot activity). My antenna is a simple vertical wire inside a fibreglass casing, a crappy old Solarcon A99. The receiver you hear in the background is on a horizontal wire (1/2 size G5RV)

Packet on SSB is extremely difficult with old radios such as the one I used due to its unstable oscillators that tend to vary with temperature. Additionally, my unit is slightly off frequency which made matters worse, as the tuning knob needed to be seated just outside of it's centre position 'notch', the little bugger kept on sliding back into the notch.

Due to interest - I have resurrected an old website about CBPacket and put it up on http://cb.3ln.eu

Category
Autos & Vehicles
License
Standard YouTube License"

nofunclub
How to communicate when the world goes silent

a nice long article
How to communicate when the world goes silent
So how would you communicate with your family or get help if communications go down?
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/09/how-to-communicate-when-world-goes.html

Shortwave
CB Radio

Very good run down of emergency communications.

Regarding CB Radio being only good up to 10 miles. Generally that is true for a basic AM mode CB radio. With a Single Sideband CB Radio it is possible to get up to 30 miles or more with just a ground wave signal. Add a beam antenna to both stations...the distance is increased much more than that to maybe 50 to 75 miles.

In addition the CB frequencies can "skip" hundreds to thousands of miles in various times of the year. In some cases there could be skip for many days in a row, or many days in a row without skip. Again, Single Sideband is the best bet for CB radio.

CB Radio is inexpensive, can run off of 12 volts and the antennas are not that large. Usually a 108 inch whip antenna would do just fine. A beam antenna would be better.

When I get more time I will try to address ham radio digital communications.

JFK
Yeah, back in the early 70's

Yeah, back in the early 70's I used to converse with people in Alabama from the southern tier of NY on a Johnson Messenger II.
The best time of year used to be late fall, or early spring.


Same radio, different mike.

The interesting thing ( for me ) was how they made it run off 12 volts...
There was a "vibrator" which turned the DC to AC which was then stepped up to 120 volts, all internal.
It always amazed me that they were actually able to filter out that "vibrators" spark generation ( electromagnetic wise ) when it shifted polarities.

watchdog
I'm going to say something

I'm going to say something off the chart here, but I suspect that, in the future, the alternative to Internet will be telepathic communication.

Assuming human can break free from the mental programming of culture, and decalcify (i.e. just a way to talk about reclaiming the function of...) the pineal gland (note: using brain salt?), and "move the dial outside the cultural bandwidth" (i.e. break free from the bounds of your given reality).

Thus, we need to think outside the technological box if we're going to have a "free & "conscious" -in all senses-- method of communicating thoughts.

I'm all in and doing the work. See you on the other side.

Shortwave
Hong Kong Protesters Use Mesh Networks To Organize

Found another good article on Mesh Networks...check this one out

Hong Kong Protesters Use Mesh Networks To Organize

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/09/30/2043244/hong-kong-protesters-use...

Hong Kong's mass protest is networked. Activists are relying on a free app that can send messages without any cellphone connection. Since the pro-democracy protests turned ugly over the weekend, many worry that the Chinese government would block local phone networks. In response, activists have turned to the FireChat app to send supportive messages and share the latest news. On Sunday alone, the app was downloaded more than 100,000 times in Hong Kong, its developers said. FireChat relies on "mesh networking," a technique that allows data to zip directly from one phone to another via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Ordinarily, if two people want to communicate this way, they need to be fairly close together. But as more people join in, the network grows and messages can travel further. Mesh networks can be useful for people who are caught in natural disasters or, like those in Hong Kong, protesting under tricky conditions. FireChat came in handy for protesters in Taiwan and Iraq this year."

Also same article at

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26285-hong-kong-protesters-use-a-m...

Hong Kong's mass protest is networked. Activists are relying on a free app that can send messages without any cellphone connection.

Since the pro-democracy protests turned ugly over the weekend, many worry that the Chinese government would block local phone networks.

In response, activists have turned to the FireChat app to send supportive messages and share the latest news. On Sunday alone, the app was downloaded more than 100,000 times in Hong Kong, its developers said. FireChat relies on "mesh networking", a technique that allows data to zip directly from one phone to another via Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Ordinarily, if two people want to communicate this way, they need to be fairly close together. But as more people join in, the network grows and messages can travel further.

Mesh networks can be useful for people who are caught in natural disasters or, like those in Hong Kong, protesting under tricky conditions. FireChat came in handy for protesters in Taiwan and Iraq this year.

But they also come with risks. Hans-Christoph Steiner at The Guardian Project, which helps activists circumvent censorship, warns that Firechat has no built-in encryption, so messages can be read by anyone within range. "This is not nearly as bad as one central authority being able to read all the messages. Nevertheless, it is something that at-risk users need to be aware of," he says. FireChat has said it aims to add encryption in the future.

Bluetooth communications come with an identifier called a MAC address, which could also be used to track down protest ringleaders. "They can be singled out for arrest or questioning, their social network can be looked at to try to find the people who have the capability to disrupt whatever is going on," says Steven Murdoch of the University of Cambridge. "Giving good security in mesh networks is still an area of research."

Chinese authorities could also use radio jamming to shut down mesh networks in a local area, or prevent more people from joining by cutting off access to app stores. "There are much more aggressive actions the authorities in Hong Kong could be taking," says Murdoch. "It's good that they are not doing that, but there is the risk that things could get worse."

JFK
Thanks shortwave

This is an interesting technology.
More here for those who wish to play with it : https://opengarden.com/apps

April
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"Decentralized Internet Will Save Humanity!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEe3d0U-aeE

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