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zoopenhoff
I Love You. How about an Index?

I've been using Concen for a while without an account, and before then, digging into the rabbithole on TPB and YT and other sources.

I feel like there is no good index - anywhere - of conspiracy stuff.

I'm thinking it would look like the old Yahoo! - a nice hierarchy of sensible categories. The best documentaries/lectures/books/audios would be starred so people know where to start in each category.

Is anyone interested in putting something together? It would have to be crowdsourced, and easy for new editors and contributors to join in, under clear guidelines.

I'm not sure what software would be the right thing, perhaps just a wiki but maybe there is something more appropriate. Perhaps it's just a series of Forum threads.

Z

ConCen
It's been on my mind for years

There is the "essential content" flag, but nobody uses it because it's not obvious. In the next version of ConCen there will be better category labeling combined with user voting. A forum thread is also a good idea. If it gets popular I'll pin it.

zoopenhoff
Awesome.

The reason I ask is that it seems to me at this point that I know basically everything about everything - at least, I know the general outlines of all the alternate fact rabbitholes, and some of them in detail.

If I have blindspots, I don't know where they are - when I see lists of "must watch" etc I've been through it all already.

I'll have a stab at starting a thread at some point.

thanks!

zoopenhoff
Essential Content

Is there a way to search by Essential Content?

I tend to sort by peers/completed downloads, and work my way through popular stuff that way.

ConCen
Good question!
zoopenhoff wrote:

Is there a way to search by Essential Content?

There isn't but there should be. There will be in ConCen next ...

euxalot
yahooooooo

Pro: I like the idea of a browsable directory. The whole concept yahoo broached died in the face of google but it always served a nice balancing need to browse categories laterally rather than relying on algorithms to do the heavy lifting. The downside is that it is manual (we must make it); but the upside, too, is that we must make it (manual). I imagine something of this sort already exists, at least in basic framework.

Con: "Conspiracies" as a category is too narrow. I would gravitate more to something focussed on "Alternative Explanations" as opposed to just conspiracies. Alternative explanations has the advantage of broadening the topic to alternative modes of perception: alternative narratives, whether politics or awareness more generally, is to my mind a subset of how we see and understand things more generally; hence, perception. Things like psychedelics, science fiction, philosophy, spirituality, meditation, hidden codes, etc. all fall broadly within this more general category.

Alternative: Instead of search engines or directories, a third option is something like yewno discovery layer that offers mind maps from search terms. This has the advantage that non-native language speakers can use it (since you don't have to be a master english to benefit from something visual). Yewno is likely user-pay but just putting it out there because I've not seen it put to general use.

zoopenhoff
oh I agree!

I think the best way to approach the categorisation is to ignore the fact that those still in the matrix still think of it as conspiracy theories. Just categorise it, as truth, the way a library will hopefully look at it in 100 years.

flaurora_sonora
Knowledge interfaces
crystalfarm45
When I was starting out I found most of my stuff from whale.to

When I was starting out I found most of my stuff from whale.to, a lot of various keywords and stuff to begin with, see what's good and what's not, quite decent actually, website looking a lot like concen actually, in terms of simplicity, but it works, eh? Evaluation is necessary
The website itself looks to be on vacation right now, so one can use web.archive.org/ to go back in time with these kinds of sites...If you ever see a broken link somewhere that you still want to check out, that is the tool and website for you. Very, very useful, especially now.
Example:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190101083331/http://whale.to/
You can find links that have been down for more than a decade there sometimes, even...This book I found from one of those pages...:
Suppose if office workers are replaced by programming scripts and computers, maybe even machinery-automatae in large numbers resulting in mass unemployment and food deficits and money deficits on their part
How to avoid a rebel insurgence and criminal activities due to starvation?
Answer: Hitler's Gas Protein - Gas yourself!
http://www.whale.to/v/stitt_b.html
"We'd shown that protein could be made from natural gas, that it could be done successfully on a large scale, and that it could be done cheaply (a pound would cost about 11 cents to produce, and would provide eight people with 100 % of their protein needs for a day). And we had done it in one year — half the time we'd been allotted for completion! ......
When we were called into the vice president's office on the afternoon of New Year's Eve, we expected a raise and a pat on the back. ...... "Gentlemen," he said nonchalantly, "the Board of Directors has decided to terminate your project, effective immediately."........They were actually firing us! .......Finally, when I could stand it no longer, I marshalled my courage and called the president of Tenneco. How could they do this senseless thing?
"Friend," he told me, "if I had a whole mountain of protein, I wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do with it. Who's gonna buy something like that?"
I was dumb struck. What about the starving millions? Was the profit motive all that counted for anything? I told myself that it could not be so, that somewhere there must be a company which would embrace the project and develop it to full potential. But I was still naive, and I still believed that the best way to make money was to make things people really needed. BEATING THE FOOD GIANTS by Paul A. Stitt"
In a fallout-videogame-style design, appropriate and with the name legal

Boo-yaka, Hitler could now easily be the icon of civil rights and food among Welfare recipients and athletes alike sometime in the 21st century
"Let us remind ourselves this isn't the matrix"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEnJfZ9joY

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