If anyone can prove that the "attack" was NOT inadvertent, do it. Otherwise, realize that it is only Muslim propaganda. Can you believe Al Jazeera?
it's been long established and well known that this was the way it happened.
Bland1900 , what is astonishing is your fevered,self imposed and wilful ignorance to anything that suggests Israel is anything but all flowers,love and light.. when in fact the govt is a bunch of devious bigoted cocks.. plain and simple.. all governments are..some are just more blatant about it... with the exception of the new Icelandic regime... they rock.
Israel however do not rock.....
READ the links JFK put there... it might just open your eyes......
Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested.
Not really, I did not even scratch the tip of the iceberg of evidence.
Bland's arrogant ignorance simply pissed me off...
At least I hope it was ignorance because if it isn't that only leaves stupidity...
And as everyone knows, stupidity is forever.
Both publications that JFK cited, regularly, have problems with honesty and are always prejudiced against Israel. The American Free Press has been proven to be anti-Semitic many times over. This is not proof, only biased conjecture. .....One should only look toward a mirror to see "arrogant ignorance" and "fevered, self imposed and willful ignorance". Parroting propaganda is "stupidity"!
Do ya want the other alphabet agencies as well ?
Edit to fix typo in title of post
And the CIA has some REALLY interesting dox, but you have to pay for them.
Another edit to add....
Yeah, stupidity it is since I posted THREE links, which have a myriad of sublinks.
And NONE of those THREE I posted are to the AFP.
I should have ignored your ignorance and/or stupidity.
Nothing here proves or concludes anything. (That is what it says on the first page.) It's noteworthy that when you clowns disagree with anything, you resort to name-calling and sometimes other childish actions. You are nothing but a propagandist. Herr Gobbles would be proud. Perhaps, JFK, you could use a douche, seeing that you obviously don't even read what you link to (Did you check the sources of those articles?). So far, you've only proved that you're not too bright and that you have, at least, a touch of anti-Semitism. ....What would Israel gain by a deliberate attack? They have shelled out tens of millions of dollars, compensating, not only the victims families, but the U.S.Government, as well. Believe what you want, but don't shove this Bullshit down our throats.
Nothing here proves or concludes anything. (That is what it says on the first page.) It's noteworthy that when you clowns disagree with anything, you resort to name-calling and sometimes other childish actions. You are nothing but a propagandist. Herr Gobbles would be proud. Perhaps, JFK, you could use a douche, seeing that you obviously don't even read what you link to (Did you check the sources of those articles?). So far, you've only proved that you're not too bright and that you have, at least, a touch of anti-Semitism. ....What would Israel gain by a deliberate attack? They have shelled out tens of millions of dollars, compensating, not only the victims families, but the U.S.Government, as well. Believe what you want, but don't shove this Bullshit down our throats.
No douchebland.
It is simply the fact that you did not lose anyone in that attack which is blinding you...
Putting aside your disrespect for the people who blindly followed their orders to protect YOUR freedom to say whatever garbage it is you wish to say here.
in one word you are simply...
pathetic.
That is all. I will never converse with you again.
"That is all. I will never converse with you again."
"No douchebland.
It is simply the fact that you did not lose anyone in that attack which is blinding you...
Putting aside your disrespect for the people who blindly followed their orders to protect YOUR freedom to say whatever garbage it is you wish to say here.
in one word you are simply...
pathetic.
That is all. I will never converse with you again."
Thank you, but, you haven't "conversed" with me, yet. First, you tried propaganda, then name-calling. Now, more name-calling. Too bad that you exposed yourself for what you really are. ....You don't have a clue! It was up to you to prove your false statements. Looks, to me, that it is you, JFK, that is blind. Repeating bullshit just doesn't cut it.
Fun fact: Phillip F. Tourney has been speaking on an IHR conference as well, i.e. for the same guys who would tell us all the time that eyewitness reports are always unreliable and that we need real documentary evidence. But I guess this only goes for the Shoah then. One simply has to love those double standards.
And from another antisemetic ( rolls eyes ) website...
Quote:
DoD Offers 'Error' Headline for Disputed Attack
November 01, 2011
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan
WASHINGTON -- A Pentagon display honoring the sacrifices of civilian employees includes a newspaper headline referring to the 1967 Israeli attack on a U.S. Navy ship as an “error,” though the U.S. never officially accepted the Israeli claim it was a mistake.
Thirty-one Sailors, two Marines and a civilian analyst died when Israeli air and naval forces strafed, napalmed and torpedoed the USS Liberty on the afternoon of June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The attack remains controversial because of the failure of U.S. forces to defend the ship and the reluctance of a succession of administrations and congresses to investigate it.
A Pentagon spokesman says there are no plans to remove or change the reproduced New York Times headline of June 9, 1967, which reads: “Israel, in error, attacks Navy ship.” Lt. Col. Robert Ditchey II said the display, which includes 15 reproduced newspaper headlines from different eras, is intended to honor career civil servants who died in the line of duty over the last two centuries.
“There is absolutely nothing in this display that should be misconstrued as a political statement,” Ditchey said in an email.
But Liberty survivors and their supporters argue that the “error” narrative is itself political.
“For public purposes, the U.S. accepted Israel’s account in the interest of maintaining relations and, more importantly for [President] Johnson, not inflaming Israel’s domestic supporters at a time,” said James Scott, son of a Liberty survivor and author of “Attack on the Liberty.”
Johnson was looking at re-election the next year and needed backing of Israel’s supporters at home at a time he was escalating the increasingly unpopular war in Vietnam.
Retired Gunnery Sgt. Bryce Lockwood, the only Marine to survive, said the headline might have been appropriate once.
“But time has gone by since then, and it’s so obvious that attack was deliberate,” he said. Lockwood was awarded the Silver Star for entering into a flooding deck and saving the lives of wounded men.
The Pentagon display was dedicated in 2004, the same year that an unofficial investigation of the attack by several retired Pentagon officials, including Adm. Thomas Moorer – Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in 1967 – was entered into the Congressional Record.
Moorer’s group concluded the attack was deliberate.
The United States’ official view – represented by State Department correspondence – is that Israel “knew or should have known” from having reconnoitered the vessel by air several time before the attack that the ship was American.
“In these circumstances, the later military attack by Israeli aircraft on the U.S.S. Liberty is quite literally incomprehensible,” Secretary of State Dean Rusk told Israeli’s ambassador. “As a minimum, the attack must be condemned as an act of military irresponsibility reflecting reckless disregard for human life."
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Quote:
A State Department spokesman told Military.com that the department’s history office could find no follow-up to the Rusk letter, which is dated June 10, the day after The New York Times headline displayed at the Pentagon.
“The headline, in a word, is an outrage and has always eaten at me,” retired Lt. Cmdr. James Ennis said. Ennis, whose 1979 “Assault on the Liberty” was the first book on the event, was an ensign aboard the ship at the time of the attack. “Just think, at that point they had absolutely no way to know whether it was a calculated and deliberate attack for a specific purpose, as most reasonable people believe, or an ‘accident.’ "
The accident explanation was largely based on a board of inquiry investigation conducted over a 10-day period after the attack. Though the board was not tasked to determine if the attack was deliberate, and avoided that line of questioning with witnesses, the report “concluded” that the attack was a case of mistaken identity.
The board’s conclusion was criticized early on, but finally discredited in 2002 when retired Capt. Ward Boston, who had been its legal advisor, said it was intended to let Israel off the hook.
Political leaders relied on the conclusions, but many never believed it, said Scott.
And America cowered.
If anyone can prove that the "attack" was NOT inadvertent, do it. Otherwise, realize that it is only Muslim propaganda. Can you believe Al Jazeera?
it's been long established and well known that this was the way it happened.
Bland1900 , what is astonishing is your fevered,self imposed and wilful ignorance to anything that suggests Israel is anything but all flowers,love and light.. when in fact the govt is a bunch of devious bigoted cocks.. plain and simple.. all governments are..some are just more blatant about it... with the exception of the new Icelandic regime... they rock.
Israel however do not rock.....
READ the links JFK put there... it might just open your eyes......
An Israeli pilot for instance ? :
http://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-assault-on-the-uss-liberty-still-cove...
Also...
http://archive.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0603lib...
And ( this makes me wonder who the NSA is REALLY working for ) :
https://web.archive.org/web/20120209054154/http://www.uss-liberty.com/20...
Nice JFK
Not really, I did not even scratch the tip of the iceberg of evidence.
Bland's arrogant ignorance simply pissed me off...
At least I hope it was ignorance because if it isn't that only leaves stupidity...
And as everyone knows, stupidity is forever.
Both publications that JFK cited, regularly, have problems with honesty and are always prejudiced against Israel. The American Free Press has been proven to be anti-Semitic many times over. This is not proof, only biased conjecture. .....One should only look toward a mirror to see "arrogant ignorance" and "fevered, self imposed and willful ignorance". Parroting propaganda is "stupidity"!
YOU say THAT?? YOU of all people....
funnier than a funny thing on a funny day with extra funny added for good measure!
I hope you didn't collect any dust mites.
Try this :
https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/uss_liberty/
Do ya want the other alphabet agencies as well ?
Edit to fix typo in title of post
And the CIA has some REALLY interesting dox, but you have to pay for them.
Another edit to add....
Yeah, stupidity it is since I posted THREE links, which have a myriad of sublinks.
And NONE of those THREE I posted are to the AFP.
Sadly I think this forum needs an ignore button.
Nothing here proves or concludes anything. (That is what it says on the first page.) It's noteworthy that when you clowns disagree with anything, you resort to name-calling and sometimes other childish actions. You are nothing but a propagandist. Herr Gobbles would be proud. Perhaps, JFK, you could use a douche, seeing that you obviously don't even read what you link to (Did you check the sources of those articles?). So far, you've only proved that you're not too bright and that you have, at least, a touch of anti-Semitism. ....What would Israel gain by a deliberate attack? They have shelled out tens of millions of dollars, compensating, not only the victims families, but the U.S.Government, as well. Believe what you want, but don't shove this Bullshit down our throats.
No douchebland.
It is simply the fact that you did not lose anyone in that attack which is blinding you...
Putting aside your disrespect for the people who blindly followed their orders to protect YOUR freedom to say whatever garbage it is you wish to say here.
in one word you are simply...
pathetic.
That is all. I will never converse with you again.
Evidence of USS Liberty eyewitnesses contradicting themselves
http://www.sixdaywar.org/uss-liberty.asp
CNN: USS Liberty attack tapes released by the NSA
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/09/uss.liberty.tapes/
The USS Liberty Attack (exposes some anti-Judean backgrounds)
http://archive.adl.org/israel/uss.html
Fun fact: Phillip F. Tourney has been speaking on an IHR conference as well, i.e. for the same guys who would tell us all the time that eyewitness reports are always unreliable and that we need real documentary evidence. But I guess this only goes for the Shoah then. One simply has to love those double standards.
The more things change the more they stay the same.