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CrossTalk 2021-07-14 - Intel Worship

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Remember the great 1964 film “Dr. Strangelove”? Do you remember the subtitle of the film? It was “How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.” Well, I have a 2021 updated subtitle when it comes to the surveillance state: “How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Intel Community.” Spooks today are not feared, they are adored.

CrossTalking with Ray McGovern, Robert Patillo, and Daniel McAdams.


During the Cold War, the average citizen had a naive respect for spooks; they saw them as protectors from the Red Menace. This was true right up until the mid 1980s.

Jeebuzz, that was 35 years ago. Fuck, I'm getting old... Get off my lawn!!!

Good point about "what me worry?" [<-- with face of Trump instead of Alfred E. Neuman]

I always think of Jaron Lanier's quote about Facebook forms:

Facebook's version of our lives is too rigid or one-dimensional: "What's happened with Facebook, in particular, is this sort of flattening, where everybody's stuff looks kind of the same, everybody is just filling out a form. It's so strange like, you know, it used to be that, when you filled out forms, it was acknowledged that that was the fake aspect of your life. You fill out forms to apply for school, you fill out forms at the doctor's office, but nobody would say, "This is who I really am!" If you want to know me, know my forms."

However, all good students of history will still see that this is not new:

Someone should try an experiment with himself: he should forget everything he knows about the times and its relativity amplified by its familiarity, and then come into this age as if he were from another planet, and read some book, or some article in the newspaper: he will have this impression: "Something is going to happen tonight, or else something happened last night!" (Søren Kierkegaard, The Present Age (1846))