Nice to hear from you again, hope you are doing well? what have you been up to lately?
Those are interesting links, thanks for sharing. The Western rationalist in me can't accept the premise but the mythologist in me can certainly explore the associations, similar to the notion of the axis mundi. I've always been curious why people feel the need to defend the idea of a hollow anything. But I think I can appreciate the perspective more if you take things at face value, somewhat like dudeface recently argued about evolution. Such frictions stem from vastly different means of perception... and no one perception is the full and final answer. Reality is larger than any individual conception of it, isn't it
I've been fighting for my life for the past...long time
I wonder what it takes for me to Thrive...it's because i saw this film before coming into contact with the theory, making it much easier to accept.
Apparently, planets grow too, much like us...there's another interesting theory i came across: Expanding earth...the context is the same and it makes sense...
Just recently official news mentioned this about the US and Europe somewhere if i remember correctly...but...Did you know that most construction work these days operates on the flat earth premise? If it isn't flat...they'll make it flat...What you said about perception...
The human body is apparently a microcosm of the Universe.
The notion that the universe and cosmos are outside of us, is supposed to be nothing but an illusion...it's a bit hard to fathom, but very magnificent when you do.
We do live in a shared space...namely...the universe...with shared responsibilities and duties, joys and other things...the idea of living in a simulation is dangerous.
Why? Despite the programmable nature of consciousness and maybe even reality itself...the simulation idea is disempowering and can lead to recklessness...
I like to keep my attitudes simpler these days...more tangible, friendlier and healthier...The mindstate that preceeded this was...unwelcoming to say the least...
But here's an example: Quantum theories state that there are an infinite number of universes, perhaps operating simultaneously, in some alternate timeline...
I think this makes it a whole bunch of gibberish...but...if you think about it this way: Our differences in experience and patterning, learning and habits...
In our individual bodies...in our own little reality bubble while sharing this same space we all inhabit...i think that's what it ultimately comes down to...simple.
besides that...i don't think these have much basis in reality...something complex has been conceived, just to keep us from being bored....nothing more...
that's how it seems to me....
BUT...There's a very interesting book, or even a series i read...once upon a time and later many more...by John Cunningham Lilly...
One of the opening paragraphs in his "The Human Biocomputer" book states the following:
"We are still general purpose computers who can program any conceivable model of the universe inside our own structure, reduce the single self-metaprogrammer to a micro size, and program him to travel through his own model as if real (level 6, Satori +6: Lilly, 1972). This property is useful when one steps outside it and sees it for what it is — an immensely satisfying realization of the programmatic power of one's own biocomputer. To overvalue or to negate such experiences is not a necessary operation. To realize that one has this property is an important addition to one's self-metaprogrammatic list of probables.
Once one has control over modelling the universe inside one's self, and is able to vary the parameters satisfactorily, one's self may reflect this ability by changing appropriately to match the new property.
The quality of one's model of the universe is measured by how well it matches the real universe. There is no guarantee that one's current model does match the reality, no matter how certain one feels about the high quality of the match. Feelings of awe, reverence, sacredness and certainty are also adaptable metaprograms, attachable to any model, not just the best fitting one."
What he did is shut off all external sensory inputs to the body by dulling them via making the environmental parameters surrounding him reach equilibrium...
That is: temperature...same as body....in darkness....in water....in quiet...so that nothing can be heard, felt, seen...the basic hypothesis at the time was:
When this is done, when these conditions are met, does the brain begin to generate it's own signals out of boredom? It tackled the notions of whether
reality and our existence is something purely generated at the level of our body....or....what was the other option...anyway...he did this...and also took drugs...
The paragraphs outlined here in quotation marks mean exactly that: Capable of simulating an entire cosmos...inside the human body...and traveling through it...
As if real...
The implications are immense...mind-boggling...i've seen and read enough about this to know that it's possible...
i haven't been there...but that's probably the reality of it. if this is true...it makes me wonder...what else do we not yet know...and...
it makes me want to treat myself and others with a lot more of healthful care, respect and dignity...we may have more power than we know...
Nice! I'll have to break your answer into smaller bits to reply. Hope you don't mind.
crystalfarm45 wrote:
I like to keep my attitudes simpler these days...more tangible, friendlier and healthier...The mindstate that preceeded this was...unwelcoming to say the least...
Really glad to hear that! Everyone needs a respite and it sounds like you are due!
crystalfarm45 wrote:
...it makes me wonder...what else do we not yet know...and...
it makes me want to treat myself and others with a lot more of healthful care, respect and dignity...we may have more power than we know...The notion that the universe and cosmos are outside of us, is supposed to be nothing but an illusion...it's a bit hard to fathom, but very magnificent when you do.
Too true...and I wonder that, too. I suspect most people on these boards do
crystalfarm45 wrote:
BUT...There's a very interesting book, or even a series i read...once upon a time and later many more...by John Cunningham Lilly...
One of the opening paragraphs in his "The Human Biocomputer" book states the following:
What he did is shut off all external sensory inputs to the body by dulling them via making the environmental parameters surrounding him reach equilibrium...
The implications are immense...mind-boggling...i've seen and read enough about this to know that it's possible...
So that is neat, isn't it. Did you watch that doc "The Glitch in the Matrix"? It talks about simulation theory and the "sensory deprivation tank". You know it is really funny: ever since I was a teenager I wanted to try a deprivation tank. I've always felt drawn to that idea. Then I see in that stupid doc that you can just check online and find someone near you with one and go ahead and do it! Weird. I don't know if I would be comfortable going into somebody else's home and doing it. I think we should just have one in all our homes growing up. it should be part of ritual training -- like learning how to use a computer or set the table. We should learn to separate our reactions from our mind -- that the world is like a neutral set of props and it is we who fasten meaning to it (granted, you must live in a peaceful country first...first security and then peace).
Anyway, you've hit a lot of deep points. Thank you for sharing. And really glad to hear you are doing so well. kudos!
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm
If you haven't read it...i consider this the best book on the topic known to date...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb2xMtRxVgM
This is also a very good source of information...i bought his book, but didn't get to crunch through the science just yet...
The rest is supposedly bunk with very few good reliable sources...This is another good one:
https://youtu.be/6Wbn_1oHWTc?t=2826
From around the 50 minute mark...have a good listen...it's very interesting, but there's no more...
http://www.echoesofenoch.com/ArchivedA/PDFs/A_Hollow_Earth.pdf
Even though this is a...bible-inclined resource...i consider this a very good website by a serious scholar...
Interesting enough?
Nice to hear from you again, hope you are doing well? what have you been up to lately?
Those are interesting links, thanks for sharing. The Western rationalist in me can't accept the premise but the mythologist in me can certainly explore the associations, similar to the notion of the axis mundi. I've always been curious why people feel the need to defend the idea of a hollow anything. But I think I can appreciate the perspective more if you take things at face value, somewhat like dudeface recently argued about evolution. Such frictions stem from vastly different means of perception... and no one perception is the full and final answer. Reality is larger than any individual conception of it, isn't it
I wonder what it takes for me to Thrive...it's because i saw this film before coming into contact with the theory, making it much easier to accept.
Apparently, planets grow too, much like us...there's another interesting theory i came across: Expanding earth...the context is the same and it makes sense...
Just recently official news mentioned this about the US and Europe somewhere if i remember correctly...but...Did you know that most construction work these days operates on the flat earth premise? If it isn't flat...they'll make it flat...What you said about perception...
The human body is apparently a microcosm of the Universe.
The notion that the universe and cosmos are outside of us, is supposed to be nothing but an illusion...it's a bit hard to fathom, but very magnificent when you do.
We do live in a shared space...namely...the universe...with shared responsibilities and duties, joys and other things...the idea of living in a simulation is dangerous.
Why? Despite the programmable nature of consciousness and maybe even reality itself...the simulation idea is disempowering and can lead to recklessness...
I like to keep my attitudes simpler these days...more tangible, friendlier and healthier...The mindstate that preceeded this was...unwelcoming to say the least...
But here's an example: Quantum theories state that there are an infinite number of universes, perhaps operating simultaneously, in some alternate timeline...
I think this makes it a whole bunch of gibberish...but...if you think about it this way: Our differences in experience and patterning, learning and habits...
In our individual bodies...in our own little reality bubble while sharing this same space we all inhabit...i think that's what it ultimately comes down to...simple.
besides that...i don't think these have much basis in reality...something complex has been conceived, just to keep us from being bored....nothing more...
that's how it seems to me....
BUT...There's a very interesting book, or even a series i read...once upon a time and later many more...by John Cunningham Lilly...
One of the opening paragraphs in his "The Human Biocomputer" book states the following:
"We are still general purpose computers who can program any conceivable model of the universe inside our own structure, reduce the single self-metaprogrammer to a micro size, and program him to travel through his own model as if real (level 6, Satori +6: Lilly, 1972). This property is useful when one steps outside it and sees it for what it is — an immensely satisfying realization of the programmatic power of one's own biocomputer. To overvalue or to negate such experiences is not a necessary operation. To realize that one has this property is an important addition to one's self-metaprogrammatic list of probables.
Once one has control over modelling the universe inside one's self, and is able to vary the parameters satisfactorily, one's self may reflect this ability by changing appropriately to match the new property.
The quality of one's model of the universe is measured by how well it matches the real universe. There is no guarantee that one's current model does match the reality, no matter how certain one feels about the high quality of the match. Feelings of awe, reverence, sacredness and certainty are also adaptable metaprograms, attachable to any model, not just the best fitting one."
What he did is shut off all external sensory inputs to the body by dulling them via making the environmental parameters surrounding him reach equilibrium...
That is: temperature...same as body....in darkness....in water....in quiet...so that nothing can be heard, felt, seen...the basic hypothesis at the time was:
When this is done, when these conditions are met, does the brain begin to generate it's own signals out of boredom? It tackled the notions of whether
reality and our existence is something purely generated at the level of our body....or....what was the other option...anyway...he did this...and also took drugs...
The paragraphs outlined here in quotation marks mean exactly that: Capable of simulating an entire cosmos...inside the human body...and traveling through it...
As if real...
The implications are immense...mind-boggling...i've seen and read enough about this to know that it's possible...
i haven't been there...but that's probably the reality of it. if this is true...it makes me wonder...what else do we not yet know...and...
it makes me want to treat myself and others with a lot more of healthful care, respect and dignity...we may have more power than we know...
Nice! I'll have to break your answer into smaller bits to reply. Hope you don't mind.
Really glad to hear that! Everyone needs a respite and it sounds like you are due!
Too true...and I wonder that, too. I suspect most people on these boards do
So that is neat, isn't it. Did you watch that doc "The Glitch in the Matrix"? It talks about simulation theory and the "sensory deprivation tank". You know it is really funny: ever since I was a teenager I wanted to try a deprivation tank. I've always felt drawn to that idea. Then I see in that stupid doc that you can just check online and find someone near you with one and go ahead and do it! Weird. I don't know if I would be comfortable going into somebody else's home and doing it. I think we should just have one in all our homes growing up. it should be part of ritual training -- like learning how to use a computer or set the table. We should learn to separate our reactions from our mind -- that the world is like a neutral set of props and it is we who fasten meaning to it (granted, you must live in a peaceful country first...first security and then peace).
Anyway, you've hit a lot of deep points. Thank you for sharing. And really glad to hear you are doing so well. kudos!
https://1lib.eu/book/5249488/f0ed7e
Use Google docs to translate to English.
Hollow Earth makes an appearance in the latest Kong vs Godzilla film.