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How relevant do you think David Icke still is?

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BDuncan
How relevant do you think David Icke still is?

How relevant do you think David Icke still is to you as the GOAT truther broadcaster, or do you think his best days are behind him, as he keeps rehashing the same stuff.

TheCorsair00
I listened to a good chunk of

I listened to a good chunk of Icke's newest book, and all of the beginning of it is all detailed new information about Elon Musk, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan and Russell Brand. He also talks a lot about Artificial Intelligence, in ways that are different from the current info about AI. His books are rather long, and they definitely do re-hash older books, but he tries to bring together current information as well. I never get through the whole book, though, but I think his perspective is still worthwhile...

zoopenhoff
Great Question.

I followed Icke from around 2010-2020. I listened to his epic 8-hour long events while hiking. Probably each of them twice. I went to see him live in Wembley.

However he lost me with 5G causing covid. I just don't think it's true.

Can you get a person and put them next to a 5G transmitter and see covid symptoms? No. You can't.

I find it plausible that the introduction of new frequencies created a rash of covid symptoms, and because it's basically a detox it would wear off. It's possible that each new introduction of frequencies (radio, TV, GSM, 3G, 4G etc) created a new illness each time.

But I don't see it. My experience was that I got "covid symptoms" when someone in my household came home after a jab. I see the vaccine story as more likely for Spanish Flu, etc.

So, I appreciate his exposition of secret government stuff as very useful and broadly accurate. But all he was doing was regurgitating other sources. Also none of it seems to have really come to anything.

TheCorsair00
I wasn't following what Icke

I wasn't following what Icke was saying at the beginning of the pandemic, but if he was saying 5G was responsible for it, he has done a full 180 and is now stating on these Rose/Icke interviews, certainly the most recent one, that he thinks the whole coronavirus pandemic was a complete hoax and fabrication, and that there was never any virus to begin with. He says what people thought was the virus was just the standard flu etc. So if he is waffling to that extreme on a subject like that, he should be called out for it.

Pisectus
I have to give him credit

Icke was the guy that gave me evidence in 2004 that the system wasn't what I thought it was. He was responsible for my awakening then. His spiritual insight back then was amazing to me. He gave me a glimpse of what goes on behind the matrix. Fast-forward till today, I don't think his information has much spiritual base to it anymore. He seems preoccupied with media & political figures who don't matter to the awakened anyhow. The last bit of good spiritual info that came out from he was that the moon isn't what we think it is. He was right, but it wasn't what he thinks it is either. The craters are only a reflection of Earth's Contents. Its not hollow unless you consider plasma hollow! Which I suppose....back to Icke. His kid's show has some great spiritual stuff on it. I hope David gets back to the spirit; and I understand this last book deals with the physical side/ the result side, but its a dry read with the MAM thing.

zoopenhoff
Icke on Trump and Musk

https://davidicke.com/2024/11/07/the-us-election-result-what-it-means-da...

I'm just watching this.

He basically says Trump has been "allowed" to be elected, and that Elon is not really on our side.

I see Elon's motivations as more-or-less genuine. I've watched every minute of him on Rogan, you just can't fake anything for that long.

TheCorsair00
I think both Trump and Musk

I think both Trump and Musk could be considered "outliers" of the mainstream elite. Outsiders, or alternatives to the elite. That's why Trump initially had so much appeal, and I guess to many people still does. And Musk seems to have lofty goals for humanity that are essentially altruistic in nature - like getting us onto electric cars, and getting us out into space and onto Mars. One problem with that, and this is just a personal opinion - but I don't think human beings can survive space travel or being anywhere outside the magnetic fields around Earth and the moon. Anywhere else and it's "lights out" almost immediately.

But anyways, Musk saw an opportunity to further his goals when Trump said Musk could be part of his team if he was elected President. Right after Trump announced that in the media, I saw Musk seize the moment on X immediately after, and started throwing his millions at the campaign and advertising him incessantly until the end. So I think that definitely had a lot to do with the outcome. I personally think Trump will let Musk and Kennedy Jr down, when it slowly dawns on them all that Trump will not actually be able to do many of these lofty goals that they all have - since going to Mars and shutting down the FDA are probably "hands off", even to the President of the USA... There are other groups of elites in America that are above the President and Congress that have been doing "their own thing" for many several decades, and will continue to do so...

zoopenhoff
Right.

I want to know how far ahead Elon gamed this out.

Did he know that buying Twitter would help Trump win, or did he just buy it on instinct?

Did he intend DOGE as a token relating to the Department of Government Efficiency?

TheCorsair00
I am not sure exactly how the

I am not sure exactly how the phenomenon of synchronicity works, but it seems to be that a lot of what happened with Musk, X and Trump was a kind of fluke that seems almost orchestrated or by design. Which is probably what sets off the conspiratorial mind, like David Icke, who believes both of them are part of the Satanic cabal, or the non-human control system that orchestrates ALL world events. I don't think reality unfolds entirely by design, but has a fractal pattern of synchronicity and coincidence...

Initially Musk was not going to buy Twitter, and then it turned into a court case whereby he was somehow going to be forced to buy it for a specific price etc. I don't remember all the details, but it seems that it took a while for it to come to fruition, and then he finally bought it. He reinstated Trump's account immediately after, but I don't think Trump took to it right away, until much later when his campaign was more underway.

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