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Zeitgeist Refuted
05-29-2008, 07:35 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-29-2008, 07:37 AM by Melchor.)
#16
Zeitgeist Refuted
Well I watched the part one that trueaim linked, just to give it a fair chance. But since they hadn't made a
single point by the end of that one I assumed that they weren't critiquing it at all and I lost interest. And I
don't mean they made bad points, they just hadn't said anything relevant to the movie whatsoever. That's
what I get for being charitable with my time.

Edit: Rings of Power is way better. The God Squad needs to go "debunk" that one. It might actually be
interesting. :crazy:
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05-29-2008, 08:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-29-2008, 08:02 AM by Hans Olo.)
#17
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Quote:Yea hundreds of them, which one in particular would you like to discuss.

Thanks, so tell me, which argument in the debunk video debunks part1 of the Zeitgeist movie best, in your opinion?
Edit: btw I'm coming from a logics / semantics angle, so I'd like to keep it simple, if possible. So, the less unnecessary words the better.
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05-29-2008, 08:14 AM,
#18
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Horus comes to mind first, Zeitgeist totally wrong on the known historical record of Horus as with all its other claims.
&Is not my word like... a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces&? Jeremiah 23:29
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05-29-2008, 10:19 AM,
#19
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apart from debating bibleparrots being totally useless:

beddru is certainly not a japanese god, sloppy....
also reducing all to sun worship is a bit cheap and misleading, smells like masonic agenda a la hoagland.

very suspicious to forget the moon, "the raging wrath of the easter bunny" our favourite son-killer. face it moon worship has just been around way longer.

bug off christianity and bug off sloppy documentary makers.
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05-29-2008, 10:42 AM,
#20
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Quote:face it moon worship has just been around way longer.

God created the moon you fool.
&Is not my word like... a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces&? Jeremiah 23:29
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05-29-2008, 10:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-29-2008, 10:59 AM by humbug.)
#21
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no, bunnies with big hammers created the moon. the same mischevious heirs that wrote the bible and castrated your wannabe transexual jesus. leave god out of it, preposterous.


http://images.jbox.com/f2/moon_rabbit_a48_small.gif
http://www.kuniyoshiproject.com/Fan%20prin...es/image014.jpg

ITS SOOO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!
and please stop insulting our most generous and loving common creator, thank you
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05-29-2008, 11:05 AM,
#22
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[quote name='zerror' date='May 29 2008, 09:51 AM' post='140154']
no, bunnies with big hammers created the moon. the same mischevious heirs that wrote the bible and castrated your wannabe transexual jesus. leave god out of it, preposterous.[quote]

Have you gone off your medication, cause your getting worse 'zerror'
&Is not my word like... a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces&? Jeremiah 23:29
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05-29-2008, 11:09 AM,
#23
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is that all you got? have a good day mate.
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05-29-2008, 11:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-29-2008, 11:58 AM by trueaim.)
#24
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take the Zeitgeist challange and try and prove that it is correct, here's your chance to do some real research and prove that its not just Albert Pike inspired masonic propaganda with no historical basis whatsoever, but merely serving the New Age cosmic christ agenda - with niave dupes like little girl lost Acharya S, or the usual mystery school old boys Gerald Massey, Allegro, Maxwell, Tsarion, etc, etc Zeitgeist even sources UNESCO! now there's trusted honest source.... So take the Masonic Zeitgeist challange cause I cant find one scrap of historical evidence for Shmeitgeist propaganda.
&Is not my word like... a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces&? Jeremiah 23:29
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05-29-2008, 12:17 PM,
#25
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Quote:And don't make the bigger mistake of taking a splinter out of my eye, when you have a giant log in yours.
Oh well.. Why was that post written in a way it was? My INTELLECT can't understand it, since it's totally absurd.
But my faith would say you had a bad day or something, since I have faith in you as a person. I don't believe you have such low level of awareness you expressed in this topic:)

Another quote for you, logic-man:
Quote:"We understand nothing!
If you understand this,
You understand everything." - Paul Mic

If you will try to reply in your previous tone, I won't respond. If you are for civilised discussion, I'm always there.

Sorry guys you have to read this, sorry I have to spoil topic with offtopics like this, I just can't leave the guy thinking I got scared of his INTELLECT or something:)
One day Chuang Tzu and a friend were walking by a river. &Look at the fish
swimming about,& said Chuang Tzu, &They are really enjoying themselves.&

&You are not a fish,& replied the friend, &So you can't truly know that they
are enjoying themselves.&

&You are not me,& said Chuang Tzu. &So how do you know that I do not
know that the fish are enjoying themselves?&
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05-29-2008, 07:36 PM,
#26
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Quote:And don't make the bigger mistake of taking a splinter out of my eye, when you have a giant log in yours.

No I think he's more on base here than you. Your reason, logic, and intellect is not the ultimate truth that you make it to be. You are assuming that your view of the world isn't skewed by biases and biological programs built into you. Primate reason and logic is not the truth, it is just the process we have decided is the best way to model the world, just as the shamans and mystics felt their faith and superstition was the best way to model the world.
The belief in 'coincidence' is the prevalent superstition of the Age of Science.

&I don't understand why you're taking such a belligerant tone when you're obviously the ignorant one here. &
-triplesix
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05-30-2008, 12:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-30-2008, 12:12 AM by psilocybin.)
#27
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Quote:take the Zeitgeist challange and try and prove that it is correct, here's your chance to do some real research and prove that its not just Albert Pike inspired masonic propaganda with no historical basis whatsoever, but merely serving the New Age cosmic christ agenda - with niave dupes like little girl lost Acharya S, or the usual mystery school old boys Gerald Massey, Allegro, Maxwell, Tsarion, etc, etc Zeitgeist even sources UNESCO! now there's trusted honest source.... So take the Masonic Zeitgeist challange cause I cant find one scrap of historical evidence for Shmeitgeist propaganda.

And you can take the bible challenge and PROVE to us that it's real. We'll talk when you're finished.
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05-30-2008, 12:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-30-2008, 12:42 AM by trueaim.)
#28
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Quote:
Quote: take the Zeitgeist challange and try and prove that it is correct, here's your chance to do some real research and prove that its not just Albert Pike inspired masonic propaganda with no historical basis whatsoever, but merely serving the New Age cosmic christ agenda - with niave dupes like little girl lost Acharya S, or the usual mystery school old boys Gerald Massey, Allegro, Maxwell, Tsarion, etc, etc Zeitgeist even sources UNESCO! now there's trusted honest source.... So take the Masonic Zeitgeist challange cause I cant find one scrap of historical evidence for Shmeitgeist propaganda.

And you can take the bible challenge and PROVE to us that it's real. We'll talk when you're finished.


Yea sure thing which challenge would you like me to take:

Challenge 1:
Modern Scholars are discovering ancient documents that are just as reliable as the Four Gospels example; secret gospel of mark, gospel of thomas, gospel of mary which contradict the Bible.

Challenge 2:
The Bible's portrait of Jesus cant be trusted because the Church tampered with the text.

Challenge 3:
New explanations have refuted Jesus' resurrection.

Challenge 4:
Christianity's Beliefs about Jesus were copied from earlier pagan religions.

Challenge 5:
Jesus was an imposter who failed to fulfill the messianic prophecies of the Old Testament.

Challenge 6:
Dosen't matter if the Bible is true or not people should be free to pick and choose what to believe about Jesus.

Just pick one or even two if you like and I will answer them.
&Is not my word like... a HAMMER that breaketh the rock in pieces&? Jeremiah 23:29
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05-30-2008, 12:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-30-2008, 04:03 AM by Cycle of Eternity.)
#29
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why are you on a conspiracy theory forum board trueaim? why don't you worry about all this other stuff that is going on? why don't you just sit back and wait for your god to kiss your booboo and make it all better for you? i recommend you do that, instead of wasting time here. wait for your messiah to come, ok.
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&A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.& -- Bertrand Russell
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05-30-2008, 01:52 AM,
#30
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Quote:
Quote:And don't make the bigger mistake of taking a splinter out of my eye, when you have a giant log in yours.
Oh well.. Why was that post written in a way it was? My INTELLECT can't understand it, since it's totally absurd.
But my faith would say you had a bad day or something, since I have faith in you as a person. I don't believe you have such low level of awareness you expressed in this topic:)

Another quote for you, logic-man:
Quote:"We understand nothing!
If you understand this,
You understand everything." - Paul Mic

If you will try to reply in your previous tone, I won't respond. If you are for civilised discussion, I'm always there.

Sorry guys you have to read this, sorry I have to spoil topic with offtopics like this, I just can't leave the guy thinking I got scared of his INTELLECT or something:)

You should well be scared of my intellect, especially considering how poor your understanding of simple english is, not to mention your cryptic gramma makes little sense.
I recommend you communicate your ideas using recorded speech as the written language still seems to be beyond your competence.

The reason I attack you is 'cause you attacked me, what's more, all the accusations you make cannot be related back to my original post.
Have a look at my post, have a look at your reply.
And have someone smart next to you so they can S-P-E-L-L it out for you.
Where's the connection between your critisisms and my original post?

You accuse me of rejecting EVERYTHING just because I use my reasoning and logic to analyse the stories in the bible. Even you say the book is absurd! So where did I go wrong I ask?
Now by critisising the bible's absurd assurtions, (think noah's ark, think adam and eve etc etc) how do you then make the leap to say I reject EVERYTHING?

And how does using one's logic and reason keep one in a cave?
Surely logic and reason have brought about our technological advances, certainly it wasn't faith in a flat earth as some believed.
I would have thought superstitious idol worshipers were the ones still stuck in plato's cave.

So I will gladly be the logic-man anyday, you can be the superstitious-fool.

I know it's rude to ask, but how old are you little one? and does mommy know your on the internet unsupervised?

As for my continued tone, it can only escalate from here, so only reply if you truly are not scared.

peace
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