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ET Contactees - Hoax?
08-11-2008, 11:50 PM,
#31
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Quote:August 5, 2008: Dave Emory - For The Record #67: Jacques Vallée, UFO’s and The Alien Contact Deception

http://mp3archives.wfmu.org/archive/kdb/mp...DX/dx080805.mp3


Yes - but as I wrote on the tracker comments - Dave Emory is a good researcher - he supports Daniel Hopsicker when most won't -

BUT

....when it comes to his analysis of UFOs being ALL military and ALL for deception purposes he is way out.... it's more complex than that.

Ask for easy answers all you want but it doesn't make reality that way.
"We are just glorified monkeys in suits.... show me where it's written we should be able to model the cosmos?!" -Terence McKenna, 21st Century Bard
R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
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08-12-2008, 12:38 AM,
#32
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Quote:
Quote:August 5, 2008: Dave Emory - For The Record #67: Jacques Vallée, UFO’s and The Alien Contact Deception

http://mp3archives.wfmu.org/archive/kdb/mp...DX/dx080805.mp3


Yes - but as I wrote on the tracker comments - Dave Emory is a good researcher - he supports Daniel Hopsicker when most won't -

BUT

....when it comes to his analysis of UFOs being ALL military and ALL for deception purposes he is way out.... it's more complex than that.

Ask for easy answers all you want but it doesn't make reality that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
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08-12-2008, 01:27 AM,
#33
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor


Awww no please Plastic... please - I had this wager with myself that someone would mention Occam's theory.

That one keeps cropping up on forum debates...

Thing is - I'm with Webster Tarpley - he says Occam was a puritanical idiot. And lots more that I'll take his word for as he's a top historian.

His theory is misused anyway - there was lots more elements BEFORE he syss that catch line. If you think about it - you can use that cliche anytime

- "Do you want eggs scrambled for breakfast?" - "Err occams razor said we should conclude that raw eggs are simpler"

- "Do ETs exist?!

-- "Well occams razor is TOTALLY subjective so i'll just say 'No they do not' as it is far easier and simpler for my mind then thinking of other factors..."

When it comes to the crunch - we live in a reality that LIKES either/or choices - we inhabit a constructed whirrled of binary opposition - starting in LANGUAGE itself. So of course we like "simple" conclusions - but I always try and see things as AND/OR so:

Do ETs exist?

ETs may well exist and/or they are part of a mass linguistic control mechanism to make us think they exist and/or ETs are actually in charge of everything, including saucers flown by above-govt military types.

And/or - the whole concept is bullshit as it poses a false opposition we cannot answer at present.

As Terence McKenna said - "we are just glorified monkeys in suits.... where is it written we should be able to model the cosmos?!"

RIP Terence. I miss your take on life.




"We are just glorified monkeys in suits.... show me where it's written we should be able to model the cosmos?!" -Terence McKenna, 21st Century Bard
R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
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09-06-2008, 03:08 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-10-2014, 02:20 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
#34
ET Contactees - Hoax?
All UFO photos and videos can show real objects.
Its just that all explanations are un real.

The basis of all dis info is the biggest national security secret: gravity.

Being some people know what gravity is and the rest do not.
As an offshoot we have UFO origin dis info.

Scoop: gravity has electric origins.

Thus to have anti gravity you must have electricity.

I hope this explains why the Illuminati are in control, the Illuminati are
sitting on Tesla's Dynamic Theory Of Gravity and won't give it up.
If someone says its available it may not be the secret one.
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09-15-2008, 05:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-10-2014, 02:21 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
#35
ET Contactees - Hoax?
All ET dodo is from government agents, listen, here is one getting called out:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Slickrick/blog/2008/09
Date / Time: 9/5/2008 12:00 PM
The UFO Town Meeting!
ET UFO government agent, Tesla craft workings mentioned as seen in IRAQ night vision YouTube video and
historical UFO origins magazine editor.
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09-18-2008, 12:08 PM,
#36
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Quote:All ET dodo is from government agents, listen, here is one getting called out:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Slickrick/blog/2008/09
Date / Time: 9/5/2008 12:00 PM
The UFO Town Meeting!
ET UFO government agent, Tesla craft workings mentioned as seen in IRAQ night vision YouTube video and
historical UFO origins magazine editor.

I'm listening to this now - funny as f*ck! Stanton pretends to not know who Bill is!!!

Bill Lyne asked some good questions - BUT he's wrong on insisting ALL saucers are terrestrial... it's just a stupid position to take but I get why he wants to get his point over.

<EDIT>

OK, just heard all of it. I've read 2 of Bill's books but as he gets older he's getting more ridgid in his reality bubble.

Saying things like "science invented wormholes and other garbage" to cover-up the fact that advanced intelligences "can't get here" is just laughable. Bill will lose all credibility soon with this attitude. A

In addition, Stanton Friedman is one of the most liberal of all UFO researchers - to say he is an "agent" is similarly silly.

Bill needs to explain the Betty and Barney Hill case to me from his position... think he's come unstuck on that one.
"We are just glorified monkeys in suits.... show me where it's written we should be able to model the cosmos?!" -Terence McKenna, 21st Century Bard
R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
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09-18-2008, 12:59 PM,
#37
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Quote:[Image: 4g53ggjrq9.jpg]

Of this I'm in no doubt, the question is which side are you on, Shuffle'?
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09-19-2008, 04:54 AM,
#38
ET Contactees - Hoax?
there is alot of information on it

thats for sure

but i choose not to take it in
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10-03-2008, 03:12 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-10-2014, 02:23 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
#39
ET Contactees - Hoax?
Good review on all hands shuffle-thee-omE...

The Big Bang Never Happened By Eric J. Lerner
http://books.google.com/books?id=RMa5uCzz_ZkC

Online book.. gives a summary of theories as it promotes the electric universe.

See the Hawkins wormhole is some tiny mechanism to explain Tesla's tiny gaseous ether.
He was pissed that pop science (promoted by Illuminati) made it into space travel.

Nothing is ET to Lyne and since all ET and pop science is promoted as cover for UFO held by
international criminals with the blessings of the government that looks the other way, which Stanton
continues to pipe... Lyne says he is an unwitting agent.

So ET Contactees - Hoax? Yes.

The Hills was all after analysis... just ripe for mk ultra to step in.
Why.. because the technology must be diverted from us to them.
No third party witnesses... However Bill Lyne says the Walton abduction took place.
His friends ran off. Walton was placed in the base infirmary and kept drugged.
Probably not versaid that was given to Tesla but something to keep him out of the
base. The nurse and others approaching him wore wigs and make up.
Walton also was briefed and paid when he can around to tell his tail.

A saucer that crashed into house had a few small people coming out on
stretchers. Ever ready to fool onlookers in case of non crash landing


In the man made UFO world of Lyne, the air becomes charged around the metal
craft with enough suspension to be directed from pulses on the walls.
I figure any shape might be OK to try out the workings.
Place sheet metal on the sides of a cardboard box or plywood box if you are a rich experimenter.
Wooden floor and wooden legs.

Suspended outside at bottom, one flat coil of wire with outer end attached to one end of wire
from inside the box looped around outer edge of coil. Power the outer loop with oscillator.

Connect a wire from another pulsing circuit to the top plate for hover and a side plate to test side movement. The difficult part is to program the action from inside or use a laser and optical arrangement for remote control.
So far that would be an example of how the Tesla UFO works.
So far Tesla researchers are thinking other wise but this is like a soapbox machine based on electrostatic principles and perhaps the most I would ever come close to testing since I'm not that enthusiastic about hardware.
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10-04-2008, 03:30 AM,
#40
ET Contactees - Hoax?




When I consider the alien abduction phenomena I study the first manifestations of the phenomena as I believe the truth lies therein.

I find this comment revelatory:

"The Nordic types of alien were very common in the 1950s but are much less so now."

http://www.ufoencounters.co.uk/ARoughGuide...alVisitors.html
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01-23-2011, 10:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-10-2014, 02:26 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
#41
RE: ET Contactees - Hoax?
Yeah Nazis are still lying to us.
What secrets did the Nazis possess to let them into the US cause we still do not know do we.
http://t.co/g24oZOx
Jim Marrs : The Rise of the Fourth Reich - IUFOC 2009
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02-15-2011, 12:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 12:45 AM by shuffle.)
#42
RE: ET Contactees - Hoax?
(07-08-2008, 03:56 PM)Vomitor Wrote: I criticized the james gilliland one in another topic, and people got a bit pissed off i seemed. Yesterday i saw another really bad one, about this dorothy izzit character.



You probably saw the DVD rip that I put online many moons ago then - cos there wasn't one floating around till I put it on the tracker and then it got copied into other formats.

Dear old Dorothy is the real deal... how on earth do you think an 80 year old lady can fool::

1. ALL of her family
and
2. a book author
and
3. a DVD producer
and
4. the discovery channel

??? - And me. I've watched her case for 5 or 6 years.

Can you provide a better story and better video footage? If so - please post it. Otherwise you're post didn't really add much to the whole debate I'm afraid.

<EDIT>

And yes I forgot to add - ALL contactee cases are hoaxed. Yup - every single one of them. It's all a psi-op by the NWO using that cliche project conspiracy kids love to mention "bluebeam". Case closed.

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"We are just glorified monkeys in suits.... show me where it's written we should be able to model the cosmos?!" -Terence McKenna, 21st Century Bard
R.I.P-ranks Terence. I miss your take on life.
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02-18-2011, 07:55 AM,
#43
RE: ET Contactees - Hoax?
nice post morpheus. Someone who actually knows what's going on
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03-05-2011, 09:32 PM,
#44
RE: ET Contactees - Hoax?
(07-22-2008, 01:58 AM)shuffle Wrote:
Quote:DR. STEVEN GREER IS ONE OF THE HEADS OF THE SO-CALLED "DISCLOSURE PROJECT". ACCORDING TO HIS "AMBASSADOR TO THE UNIVERSE TRAINING" (LOL) THEY HAVE FREQUENT VISITATIONS AT THESE SESSIONS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, NO ONE HAS OF YET THOUGHT TO BRING A F*****NG CAMERA!!!! (and don't forget to pay in advance)


That's strange..... and why shout about it?

I have a whole DVD of CSETI footage. Both pics and video.

You must have done your usual 23 seconds online and left it at that... this short-term "research" action has come from teenage wanking no doubt, that also takes you 23 seconds.

I am following this disclosure project for years I dont see anything hoaxed here sorry to say. This ''case'' is not debunked at all. Does not seem likely at all that those 400 plus ex mil nasa , pilots, radar ops, etc are in on it. See press club conference and available material. But you will alway have ignorant people who are superstitious about everything.
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