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Chemtrails from strange flying object
10-14-2008, 05:15 AM,
#46
Chemtrails from strange flying object
sorry mate, I'll take the HAARP patent out of your thread and put it in it's own then;)
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10-14-2008, 05:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2008, 05:25 AM by TeslaandLyne.)
#47
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:sorry mate, I'll take the HAARP patent out of your thread and put it in it's own then;)
No prob... make a separate also.

It can bring up an atmospheric control by Tesla.

ED: I went a bit sarcastic... overboard etc...

ED: It would be interesting to hear what the ice crystals would do with HAARP heating.

ED: OK I see its gone.. I'll link for reference.

ED: The HAARP Patent
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=24063
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10-14-2008, 05:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2008, 06:41 AM by TeslaandLyne.)
#48
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:
Quote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDK8oCkf9iU

5minutes 30seconds in..

Jazzroc...

The black parallel trail.
Caused by the bright trail and camera reaction.
ED: I didn't see the gap this time... the pilot turned off the smoker, it hiccuped, no photoshop.

ED: So besides needing a special smoke chemical to spray out of an electrostatic
propelled craft the Illuminati can get rid of any pollution it likes in the sky and spread it
around the world in conventional crafts.

If radioactive material makes for better communication the Illuminati would spray it
all over the skies to get rid it of. Hey atmospheric nuke testing has been stopped
for quite awhile now. Yeah that took care of the ozone layer over Antarctica.


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10-14-2008, 09:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2008, 12:38 PM by JazzRoc.)
#49
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:although in the image we can see that the proscribed influence of the vortices seemingly at times only effects one out of the two of the 'wing trails' whilst the other is, relatively, unperturbed
Say the auto-pilot makes a ROLL correction. The ailerons "dip" into the airstream. One side goes UP and the other DOWN. The DOWN side generates a tighter vortex off its tip as it meets increased pressure. The UPSIDE (of the opposite aileron) meets reduced pressure. Hence only ONE SIDE gets itself a temporary control vortex.

Quote:As for the sylphs and wraiths - I thought they were inherently circular or an elliptical in appearance
They are dramatic because they fall out of STILL conditions. The aircraft trail conditions are more turbulent and much smaller in scale. The effect (agglomeration, falling, air entrainment) still applies though.

Quote:some of these certainly aren't fitting the proscribed MO
Well, one's a ROLL CLOUD, and one's on SATURN!
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10-14-2008, 09:57 AM,
#50
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:What happen to my topic. Its invaded by non supportive data.
I'm glad about that.

Quote:Do I want a lesson in Meteorology and become a weatherman, no.
After all, these effects are happening in the atmosphere. What need is there for atmospheric physics here?
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10-14-2008, 10:13 AM,
#51
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:So not only is this plane producing 'ice crystals' well enough to completely trump the actual size of the craft itself
Yes. It has hit supersaturation all right. The airframe is also throwing ice, and ALL the trail material is quickly picking up more ice out of the air.

Quote:but sublimation in a HUMID layer of the atmosphere?
It's crossing a JET STREAM (all that left-to-right streakiness). It has come out of LESS humid air and struck HIGHLY-SATURATED air.

Quote:I doubt it's humid
Your doubt is noted. I don't know why you doubt: all conditions are INVISIBLE: water vapour is INVISIBLE.

Quote:Why does this sublimation seem to be selective; some will sublimate, and trails right next to it wont?
Because the stratosphere is STABLE, and layers don't intermix. It gets WARMER with increasing height, so it is STABILIZED. There is NO REASON why one (invisible) layer should share the humidity of another (invisible) layer.

Quote:That plume of aerosol behind the plane, a distance back looks pretty highly reflective and near opaque in it's oddly concentrated center don't it? NOT TO MENTION it's complete inconsistency to any cruising aircraft's jet exhaust. It's just been sort of 'farted out' at that particular spot.
I don't think it is part of the trail at all.

Quote:Doesn't ice also need very COLD, DRY conditions to sublimate? Come on broski, shit just aint adding up.
Yes, and the plane has just passed through those. It's now in very COLD, WET conditions.
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10-14-2008, 12:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2008, 12:35 PM by JazzRoc.)
#52
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:The black parallel trail
Is its shadow.

http://contrailscience.com/contrails-dark-lines-chemtrails/

Have you guys been to the Monty Python School for Special Training in Senselessness??
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10-14-2008, 04:35 PM,
#53
Chemtrails from strange flying object
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=23512
geeeerrrr 'ngeeeeeeerrrrr 'ngeeeeeeerrrr
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10-14-2008, 08:00 PM,
#54
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:Say the auto-pilot makes a ROLL correction. The ailerons "dip" into the airstream. One side goes UP and the other DOWN. The DOWN side generates a tighter vortex off its tip as it meets increased pressure. The UPSIDE (of the opposite aileron) meets reduced pressure. Hence only ONE SIDE gets itself a temporary control vortex.

Quote:As for the sylphs and wraiths - I thought they were inherently circular or an elliptical in appearance
They are dramatic because they fall out of STILL conditions. The aircraft trail conditions are more turbulent and much smaller in scale. The effect (agglomeration, falling, air entrainment) still applies though.

Well, one's a ROLL CLOUD, and one's on SATURN!

yep, i know it's from Saturn - even states it in the video.. the hexagrammatic shape at the south pole of Saturn is very interesting isn't it?

As for the auto-pilot roll correction theory - what you opine sounds fair enough, more so if there were physical evidence of, say, one, or a few adjustments having taken place but that trail is all over the place, roll this way, roll that way and again, many many times, until, suddenly, the trail is smooth and linear as you like.I don't imagine a jet liner is very maneuverable, relatively,perhaps the auto pilot was drunk and listening to some prodigy:P or otherwise there's facets to this example which aren't quite so elementary and explicable by conventional models of aerodynamism

Anyway, as T+L has said - it's off topic.. I'll leave this thread for you to wrangle with him your position on there being no objects up there laying dupe trails, should make for a very fascinating thread.

I'll keep searching around looking for significant anomalies for you to consider and get a thread going, unless someone beats me to it, of course.;)
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10-14-2008, 09:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-15-2008, 12:57 PM by JazzRoc.)
#55
Chemtrails from strange flying object
Quote:the hexagrammatic shape at the south pole of Saturn is very interesting isn't it?
I believe it's a resonance phenomenon: a complex standing wave. One of the largest in the Solar System. Eye-boggling!

Quote:As for the auto-pilot roll correction theory - what you opine sounds fair enough, more so if there were physical evidence of, say, one, or a few adjustments having taken place but that trail is all over the place, roll this way, roll that way and again, many many times, until, suddenly, the trail is smooth and linear as you like.I don't imagine a jet liner is very maneuverable, relatively,perhaps the auto pilot was drunk and listening to some prodigy:P or otherwise there's facets to this example which aren't quite so elementary and explicable by conventional models of aerodynamics
These are the tiniest of adjustments: your drink wouldn't get spilled. Because the rotational energies of each of the separately-generated vortices differ, they will play out a different story over time into a context (a fresh slice of stratosphere) which also differs over space. That is why you get such varied appearances: sometimes you see "smoke-rings".

Quote:Anyway, as T+L has said - it's off topic.. I'll leave this thread for you to wrangle with him your position on there being no objects up there laying dupe trails, should make for a very fascinating thread.
Depending on the scattering properties of the intervening atmosphere, and the resolution and focal accuracy of the cameras used, you are bound to find "UFO-like" appearances. But as I have said before, UFOs do not use the atmosphere for their propulsion, and in fact move their local atmosphere with them. So there is NO reason to suppose they would leave a trail. They have been known to "open up a hole" through clouds they pass through, but that is the pressure effect of their local gravitational field. Behind them is frequently seen a ball-shaped cloud, which is there for the same reason.

Quote:I'll keep searching around looking for significant anomalies for you to consider and get a thread going, unless someone beats me to it, of course.
It is always a pleasure (in your case) Nik.
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