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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
08-16-2008, 09:14 AM,
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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
Quote:The advance could mean that Star Trek fantasies of interstellar civilisations and voyages powered by warp drive are now no longer the exclusive domain of science fiction writers.

In the long running television series created by Gene Roddenberry, the warp drive was invented by Zefram Cochrane, who began his epic project in 2053 in Bozeman, Montana.

Now Dr Gerald Cleaver, associate professor of physics at Baylor, and Richard Obousy have come up with a new twist on an existing idea to produce a warp drive that they believe can travel faster than the speed of light, without breaking the laws of physics.

In their scheme, in the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, a starship could "warp" space so that it shrinks ahead of the vessel and expands behind it.

By pushing the departure point many light years backwards while simultaneously bringing distant stars and other destinations closer, the warp drive effectively transports the starship from place to place at faster-than-light speeds.

All this extraordinary feat requires, says the new study, is for scientists to harness a mysterious and poorly understood cosmic antigravity force, called dark energy.

Dark energy is thought responsible for speeding up the expansion rate of our universe as time moves on, just like it did after the Big Bang, when the universe expanded much faster than the speed of light for a very brief time.

This may come as a surprise since, according to relativity theory, matter cannot move through space faster than the speed of light, which is almost 300,000,000 metres per second. But that theory applies only to unwarped 'flat' space.

And there is no limit on the speed with which space itself can move: the spaceship can sit at rest in a small bubble of space that flows at "superluminal" - faster than light - velocities through normal space because the fabric of space and time itself (scientists refer to spacetime) is stretching.

In the scheme outlined by Dr Cleaver dark energy would be used to create the bubble: if dark energy can be made negative in front of the ship, then that patch of space would contract in response.

"Think of it like a surfer riding a wave," said Dr Cleaver. "The ship would be pushed by the spatial bubble and the bubble would be travelling faster than the speed of light."

The new warp drive work also draws on "string theory", which suggests the universe is made up of multiple dimensions. We are used to four dimensions - height, width, length and time but string theorists believe that there are a total of 10 dimensions and it is by changing the size of this 10th spatial dimension in front of the space ship that the Baylor researchers believe could alter the strength of the dark energy in such a manner to propel the ship faster than the speed of light.

They conclude by recommending that it would be "prudent to research this area further."
# Einstein's spooky action acts at 10,000 times the speed of light
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But hold the dilithium crystals: Dr Chris Van Den Broeck of Cardiff University commented: "The problem with this and previous schemes (including my own) is that part of the exotic matter would have to travel faster than the *local* speed of light (roughly speaking, it would need to go faster than the speed of light with respect to the portion of space it occupies), and that's not allowed by any established physical theory."

And even if this criticism can be met, Richard Obousy computed the amount of energy required to start up a "warp" process (but not the total energy required to travel a specific distance) around a 10x10x10 metre-cube ship based on the required change in dark energy in a space equal to the volume of the ship.

The energy to kick start the drive turned out to be equivalent to turning the entire mass of Jupiter into energy, by Einstein's famous E equals Mc squared equation, where c is the speed of light. Given the mass of Jupiter is around 2000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms, that is a big number.

"That is an enormous amount of energy," Dr Cleaver said. "We are still a very long ways off before we could create something to harness that type of energy."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtm...arpdrive115.xml
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09-15-2008, 03:00 AM,
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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
I did an interesting related post here:
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?sh...mp;#entry148606
I'll have to check this one out.
Anti gravity is no good.... little gravity between stars.
As pointed out by some one, the only way to travel is between warps... space is warped,
Einstein says so.. is by worm hole.
High speed is no good... hitting a small object ruins the trip.
This is dodo for brains science.. about as bad as a 911 Official story.
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09-24-2008, 12:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-24-2008, 02:17 PM by ---.)
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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
The creation of a "bubble" in space ahead of a vehicle to "drag" the craft would have to be synchronized with the push. Otherwise you would simply be torn apart from a an inertial vacuum sucking you along faster than your sub-atomic particles can complete their orbits. I would suggest the first 100 years worth of this will involve some very nasty accidents......

As stated they talk about "riding a wave" as though surfing is all about being on the wave. If you can make a bubble out of space where the space is inflected on the subject and can keeps the same space in the same spot, using it to keep all the atoms moving as they should, then you should be able to move the bubble in that fashion. If you start churning new space through, the matter will still be experiencing travel. The bent space thing is merely making a gravitational "field" to which the matter would move towards. This still implies movement of the subject.

To surround the subject in a self contained bubble where the space inside has no relation to the space outside and has no inertial "debt" to pay sounds like a good plan.
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11-04-2008, 08:11 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-04-2008, 08:56 PM by TeslaandLyne.)
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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/3670

Nicolai Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity
Sat, 02/09/2008 - 18:40 — Arthur Cristian

Nicolai Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity
Dynamic Theory of Gravity

[Note: Einstein was a FRAUD. And, general relativity, from start to finish, never supports the basis for an Aether.
In fact, the whole point of general relativity was to remove the concept of the Aether from mainstream academia - and succeeded.
....

"Truth needs no laws to support it.
Only lies require laws to force them upon the public."

Nick Kennedy]

Read on for warp info... or see a Homer Simpson cartoon.


Here is the worm hole guy .. Stephen Hawking.. kissing up to the pope:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081031/sc_nm/us_pope_hawking_1
Pope sees physicist Hawking at evolution gathering

Fri Oct 31, 1:52 pm ET

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – Pope Benedict told a gathering of scientists including the British
cosmologist Stephen Hawking on Friday that there was no contradiction between believing
in God and empirical science.
....
========
The Hawk will get Galileo treatment from the plasma cosmologists
in the Tesla Court.

The Pope is master of another domain and earthly squabbles are not
his domain any more.

The masters of science.. they will hardly tell us or the pope or
Stephen Hawking.

Check image of navigation device and the surrounding text on the page link:
Image of old device
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/...es/pentag13.jpg
Page with image
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/...gonaliens02.htm

Produce date 1943... coil spools are from the 30s.

An attempt at science discovery.. mostly from Bill Lyne's book
which they say under Further reading, however Lyne was the first
to attempt to reconstruct the Dynamic Theory of Gravity of Tesla.
Which may be scientific laws by now like Maxwell laws but we
don't know about them still.

The first link:
http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/3670
Lyne might call it copy control gone wild with a taste of dis info added.
(such as quaternion ...)

What is interesting is we are instructed by Homer Simpson
and how curved space works in one of his cartoons.
Illuminati control never stops.
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11-04-2008, 09:20 PM,
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Star Trek warp drive is a possibility, say scientists
Quote:The creation of a "bubble" in space ahead of a vehicle to "drag" the craft would have to be synchronized with the push. Otherwise you would simply be torn apart from a an inertial vacuum sucking you along faster than your sub-atomic particles can complete their orbits. I would suggest the first 100 years worth of this will involve some very nasty accidents......

As stated they talk about "riding a wave" as though surfing is all about being on the wave. If you can make a bubble out of space where the space is inflected on the subject and can keeps the same space in the same spot, using it to keep all the atoms moving as they should, then you should be able to move the bubble in that fashion. If you start churning new space through, the matter will still be experiencing travel. The bent space thing is merely making a gravitational "field" to which the matter would move towards. This still implies movement of the subject.

To surround the subject in a self contained bubble where the space inside has no relation to the space outside and has no inertial "debt" to pay sounds like a good plan.
The Tesla Free Energy Conspiracy can't be trusted.

In no way has any information ever leaked out.. there are electrical waves in space ... and electrical momentum
and a small amount a gravity.

For the UFO or Tesla space ship (aka UFO) the electron cloud or surrounding charge like a Faraday cage
isolates the electrical momentum. High cycles and voltage pull apart the air and aether (8 x 10 to 11th power as dense
... thus requiring enormous voltage) charging up the craft. The electric field is null inside as elemental physics tells us.
All that is left it to send the cloud into the direction of flight, up to hover off the ground and any side with the projection
device or beam of electrons.

Light and radio waves travel the Tesla way by pressure in the aether density which is inversely proportinal to the
speed in the medium. The aether tosses out the photon theory and solves the double slit problem.
Speed of light= 186,000 mps, mi = 5280 feet, Speed of sound = 1085 ftps
density air/density aether = (velocity of light/velocity of sound) squared.
For pressure based phenomena. Yes, too easy and too revealing.

Mexico UFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ZHy3Tc2aM
There is a good look at a trailing disturbance
at 4:50 mark.
3:19 starts the UFO footage.
Perhaps evidence of vertical and side beam:
4:17 see light, as if another UFO or evidence of the
vertical beam directly above the bright UFO.
4:40 see spot of light at left in direction of movement.

In a series of internet photo posting as someone sought
to seek answers on various forums under monty4444, the
number 100_2233-3.jpg had a dark cloud at some distance
vertically above the UFO. His photos not online now but
evidence of his many links should appear in searches.
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