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mandatory digital television - why?
11-18-2008, 12:43 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Mexika - The Happening dealt with the Trees and Plants rebelling and killing people. It was the Foliage doing the killing.

I have heard from various people that this digital switchover is nothing more than the government being able to specifically determine what each household watches and can control what shows/commercials/etc that you will be able to watch. Makes sense to me. I don't like the idea of having to go to the government with my government coupon to pick up a box to connect to my TV.....I mean what is that? Don't think so, I'll do my TV watching online thank you very much. Get more stations on there anyway and I have a big screen monitor so screw 'em.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken

11-18-2008, 02:24 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Then again there has been a space race again. They claim it for mining which could be elements and ores, or data mining. HHS has a huge push on chips lately. They are first targeting homeless because they say the homeless use more free medical services and commit more crimes. Also in line a infants which they say will better their healthcare. That makes me wonder if they are getting ready for data mining in addition to controling what we watch. Already the boxes we have for TV are watching us watch it.
11-18-2008, 05:00 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
benefits of digital tv include, knowing everything you watch, and from what you buy (if you use a card), exactly what adversing works on you and what is less successful, so personalised, targeted advertising can be honed. it will also enable them to do mass experiments and track and analyse results/data extraordinarily accurately.

i was working with some of this stuff over 15 years ago, they must be able to do what they want by now.

a friend of mine was working for Tesco's on tracking and cataloguing individual products sold - it was used in conjunction with peoples' store cards to observe their buying habits, and that must be nearly a decade back - and they were already running trials with rfid barcodes - there was something in the press a few years back, but i guess it's pretty common by now.

just need to link all the systems together...

Vitam Impendere Vero
11-18-2008, 05:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2008, 05:19 AM by ---.)
mandatory digital television - why?
Quote:just need to link all the systems together...

we need a DIY targetable EMP device manual
11-18-2008, 05:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2008, 05:42 AM by Easy Skanking.)
mandatory digital television - why?
Quote:just need to link all the systems together...

we need a DIY targetable EMP device manual

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
11-18-2008, 05:45 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Thanks. now we're getting there. Maybe a good project for me to do? then again, I'm still scaring the shit outta my wife with Beck's Zapper.
11-18-2008, 05:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2008, 05:55 AM by ---.)
mandatory digital television - why?
Yeah, I forgot to ask - how's it going with the zapper? My friend bought one for his girlfriend but there's no point in using it while she's trying the lapitinib meds as it would zap it out of her system.

I wouldn't mind trying the becks zapper out myself - last time I saw that friend in the UK he had starting zapping himself everyday..

so what's it like..?

and if you find any DIY EMP manuals, hilly... ;)
11-18-2008, 06:16 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Well its been about 4 days now and so far so good. The Lymph gland I had that got big and bad, not to mention painful is now all but gone. I wasn't expecting results near this fast. I also, just for the hell of it tried it on my arm they couldn't quite fix, actually seems to help with pain and flexibility, didn't expect that. Then curiosity got the best of me and thought I'd try it over my heart to see if there were any reactions over the stints, since it didn't hurt the anchors in my arm, no problem. My dad wanted to try it over his fingers which have become crippled over the years and my mom her gout in her feet. So far it seems to help just after the first time, but it could have just been timing so we will see over a period on those. I also tried it on a sprained ankle, nothing really happened.

I think this will be the last test I try for a while to see what works. So far, sunlight (morning best) UVB, whatever is in the ocean water, B-17, Mixture of Graviola, Vit C, and Graviola, ESSAIC Tea, all seem to have an effect on this cancer. This however may be the fastest so far. Grape seed is decent too, but not as a stand alone like other herbs. This could eleminate the use of the NBUVB machine (not that I use it unless I'm losing bad). That only leaves Cesium, which I can't do and Rife which I won't spend the money to do.
11-18-2008, 07:07 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2008, 07:08 AM by ---.)
mandatory digital television - why?
It's always very humbling to read how well you've educated yourself in these matters, hilly whilst simultaneously being non-reliant of the big pharma combine.

The zapper sounds pretty good then? Sounds like it had some pretty impressive results almost instantaneously..

The next time I am in the UK I will definitely try it out myself on some previous injuries to see how to it affects.

I'm happy to hear that it zapped the lymph gland back into check. It really does sound like an impressive piece of kit. As I said, my friend in the UK who bought one for his girl started using it himself ( a lot!:rolleyes:) when he realised she couldn't use it whilst taking the meds. The last time I saw him before I left - he was practically levitating lol
but I think the frequency he was zapping himself might have been getting into abuse type levels.. :rolleyes: lol

Hopefully I'll speak with them soon and I'll get his report about it.

As said, I'm glad to hear it's effective.
11-19-2008, 03:36 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Thanks Nik, but really I don't deserve the praise. Actually Nik I feel guilty. Never once did I research through the years when it was my family and friends, it wasn't until it was me and Chemo failed that I questioned it. More sadly are my friends that are dieing from that right now who are trusting TPTB right until their last breath. Death is the easy part, getting there sucks a bit.

Zapped my cousin's back yesterday, 3 screwed up dics he can't afford to have fixed. Today was the 1st time since he injured them that he had no pain. He works in marble, so that says a lot. I may however have zapped myself a bit too much (should have read up on that part, lol). Kinda flu like symptoms, maybe killing junk quicker than I can get it out of my body. It seems to have little effect on the cancer in the blood, but an excellent job on lymph and pain.

as usual, if something ain't right, I read the instruction eventually. lol

11-19-2008, 04:32 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
All I know is for 20 years I have only been able to receive 3-5 channels over standard bunny ears. With this new box unit I get 16.
12-22-2008, 04:16 AM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Digital TV: Mind Control by the Sound of Silence
A. True Ott, PhD, ND | Educate 10,381 views
December 15, 2008
Editor’s Note

This is an extremely timely and important essay. It overviews a secret Pentagon psychotronics technology known as Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) that has been fully operational since the early 1990s. I first found out about the use of this technology from Al Bielek in a 1992 video he made with Vladimir Terziski. This technology was used against battle-hardened Iraqi troops fortified in deep underground bunkers in Kuwait and Iraq in the first Gulf War in January of 1991.

The physical, emotional, and psychological effects of this technology were so severe that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops surrended en masse without firing even a single shot against US led coalition forces. The numbers reported in the news were staggering: 75,000 and then annother 125,000 (or more) Iraqi troops would come out of their deep desert bunkers waving white flags and falling to their knees before approaching US troops and literally kiss their captor’s boots or hands if given the opportunity.

Why would eight year veterans of Middle Eastern warfare (with Iran 1980-1988) behave this way? Simple. They were subjected to a technology that was so extreme and incomprehensible that they were suddenly reduced to the level of compliant children and felt grateful to still be alive in the wake of their mind-wrenching experience.

This technology is about to be used, albeit in a more subtle fashion, against American citizens in a highly classified and covert operation to mind control and manipulate the entire population into ‘compliance’ with our New World order overlords. The technology will utilize a combination of HAARP transmitters, GWEN towers, microwave cell phone towers, and the soon-to-be-mandatory High Definition Digital TV that will enter your home via: a) cable,B)satellite, c) HD TVs, or d) those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf.

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidze about 90% of the associated cost?

I’m only guessing, but if there are 200 million “regular” televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = $8 billion. Why is the government so anxious to spend 8 billion dollars on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? Or is the recently touted “additional bandwidth” cover story that supposedly is to be gained with the HD technology the only and genuine reason for spending so much taxpayer dollars on HD conversion?

The second service that this author performs is to “out” two of our more deceptive CIA/Pentagon ‘assets’ masquerading under the rubric of natural health advocates. Their names are Rima Laibow and her husband, “former” Major General Albert Stubblebine. If your e-mail Inbox has been filling with warnings and articles in recent months about the coming Codex regulations and the “wonderful” job that Rima and her retired Army husband have been doing to try and stem the tide, then you know who I’m talking about.

Folks, is it time to wake up yet? Or should we just resume our slumber and wait for them to take us away in those spiffy Gunderson cattle cars that Phil Schneider warned us about in 1995 (you know, the ones with the built in shackles and manacles)?
12-22-2008, 11:39 PM,
mandatory digital television - why?
So what's the deal with UHF? Is only VHF dead or is UHF analog dead too?
12-23-2008, 06:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-23-2008, 06:50 PM by JazzRoc.)
mandatory digital television - why?
Yes, it IS an interesting thread!

A TRUE IDIOT responds thus (and I agree):

If this technology existed there would no longer be any stand off situations, they would have no need to torture anyone for information, etc. They would be using this rather than stress positions and water boarding which leave a very clear trail putting them at risk for war crimes charges. There would be no more war. The world would be a VERY different place.

Secondly, if this technology works so well over radio as the author claims it did during the first Gulf War there would be no need to upgrade TVs to work the same effect in the US. We already have radio here!

Thirdly, subliminals of all types are strictly banned from film, television and advertising. That’s not to say retailers and government wouldn’t try to use something like this. I’m just saying it would be very likely to be exposed and repercussions would follow.

Fourth point, The government backing the change-over to digital tuners has absolutely NOTHING to do with switching to HD, which makes the authors suggested motives moot. They are reimbursing the purchase of digital converter boxes only. Why? Because they want control of the bandwidth currently used for UHF television broadcasts - the kind people pick up with an antenna. You now need a digital converter box if your TV is so old it only has an analog tuner. Has NOTHING to do with picture resolution and everything to do with Full Spectrum Dominance!

Aside from all that, we all know perfectly well the what Eisenhower was warning us about was the Military Industrial Complex! This doofus acts like he was warning us of this technology and the only way he can suggest that is by taking fragments of Eisenhower’s speech out of context.

I won’t even get into his suggestions about Paul Simon’s Sound of Silence! Hahahah!

Useless disinformation intended to lead you away from the real threats we face.

Be smart people!
04-14-2009, 06:13 PM,
mandatory digital television - why?
Quote:for the past few days i've been thinking about this mandatory switch to digital television

This - "free up parts of the valuable broadcast spectrum for public safety communications" is interesting, yet here is something else.

ADVERTISING - you know how they love to market to us and keep records of what/when we buy.
Well, the plan is for individual television marketing. Your TV will be able to show you commercials for products and services that are picked just for you from your previous spending habits.
Even more this system will know and keep track of your viewing habits, what channels/shows and when. It will be able to determine that Mr. Smith watches ESPN in the evening in the bedroom, while Mrs. Smith is watching LIFETIME in the living room. Then each can get personalized advertisements. Tools for him, crafts for her, and toys for junior over in the family room, viewing CARTOON NETWORK.
It's true, heard it at the university, from a telecommunications professor.
Quote:this will also help in profiling personalities


Quote:Soon, cable TV may start watching you
Targeted ads track interest, viewing habits; privacy advocates worried

updated 6:50 p.m. ET, Tues., April 7, 2009

WASHINGTON - You're watching Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show," when suddenly you see a commercial for the Mustang convertible you've been eyeing — with a special promotion from Ford, which knows you just ended your car lease.

A button pops up on the screen. You click it with the remote and are asked whether you want more information about the car. You respond "yes." Days later, an information packet arrives at your home, the address on file with your cable company.

This is the future of cable TV advertising: personal and targeted.

Cable TV operators are taking a page from online advertising behemoths like Google Inc. to bring these so-called "addressable" ads onto the television.

"It hasn't really been done on TV before," said Mike Eason, chief data officer of Canoe Ventures, a group formed by the nation's six largest cable operators to launch targeted and interactive ads on a national platform starting this summer.

They're betting they can even one-up online ads because they also offer a full-screen experience — a car commercial plays much better on your TV than on your PC. As such, they hope to charge advertisers more.

The stakes are high: Cable companies get only a small portion of the $182 billion North American advertising market. Eason said the cable operators, which sell local ads on networks like Comedy Central, get roughly 10 percent of the commercial time on those channels. With targeting, they are hoping to expand that.

But they have to tread carefully. Privacy advocates worry the practice opens the door to unwanted tracking of viewing habits so ads can target consumers' likes or dislikes. They also fear it could lead to discrimination, such as poorer households getting ads for the worst auto-financing deals because they are deemed credit risks.

"You've got to tell people you're doing it and you've got to give people a way to say no," said Pam Dixon, executive director of World Privacy Forum in Carlsbad, Calif. "Otherwise, it's just not fair."

By the end of the year, Canoe will start rolling out ads that let consumers request information, such as the hypothetical one for the Mustang, industry executives said. Cable operators involved are Comcast Corp., Cox Communications Inc., Time Warner Cable Inc., Charter Communications Inc., Cablevision Systems Corp. and Bright House Networks.

Initially, over the next two months, they'll tailor ads by demographic profile of a community, such as age and income. So households in a youth-oriented neighborhood might get pitches for concerts, while those in higher-income areas might get exotic travel ads. Previously, cable could only target an entire metropolitan area or town.

Ultimately, cable will target down to the ZIP code and individual household, although when that will happen isn't clear.

That means eventually, while you and your neighbor could be watching "Iron Chef" on Food Network at the same time, you might see a commercial for golf clubs, because you had tuned to The Golf Channel earlier, while your neighbor would see an ad for Disney vacations, because she has young children who like to watch Nickelodeon.

Experian, a data collection and credit scoring company, will cull profile data and match them with information advertisers have on their consumers. The advertiser won't know who will get the ads. Advertisers can also provide a customer list to Experian, which then can make a match. So an ad can be targeted toward someone who just ended a lease with Ford.

Niche ads aren't new to television. Advertisers have long pitched beer and cars on sports programs and cosmetics on the female-heavy Hallmark Channel.

But cable hasn't been able to get more specific until now.

With better targeting, advertisers might pay more to run the same ad, but they'll be reaching the audience most likely to buy, increasing the effectiveness. Advertisers will also be better able to measure how wisely their marketing dollars get spent, by keeping track of who responds. These are areas TV hasn't done as well as online.

Canoe says it has already developed the technology and will start deploying it in May. The cable companies' movement toward standardizing their systems on a common platform will aid in the deployment of these ads. What remains to be worked out are financial issues such as how cable operators and cable networks will share revenue.

There are signs that targeting works.

Cablevision has just completed an ad trial involving 100,000 homes in Brooklyn, N.Y., in which it sold additional services to its own customers. For instance, someone who only subscribes to cable TV might get ads for adding phone and Internet services. Cablevision said it saw a double-digit percentage increase in sales in areas with targeted ads.

The company will roll out targeted ads to 500,000 homes in the New York area this summer.

But privacy advocates such as Dixon worry that customers might not have a way to disable cable's tracking of their viewing habits, and won't likely have the option of another cable operator to buy from.

"If you're sitting at home watching a cable TV box, you're stuck," Dixon said. "You're looking at a version of television that no one else is getting. That's a big deal."

But Eason said despite its flaws, this is where TV advertising is heading — measurable ads. "This is the future for measurement on television," he said.

&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade

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