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Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
11-18-2008, 03:24 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2008, 03:25 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#76
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:Can't blame you there, never too cautious with electricity. Is the extra diode added for the load why an extra resistor was added?

One diode per load item connected to the positive lead for batteries. No extra resistor. If you are asking about the one schematic that looks like there is a coil on the blue (trigger) side, that was an error in the drawing they said. I can see no reason for wanting a radiant boost on the trigger side. The trigger side only uses conventional current to trigger the "disruption", as Tesla put it, to the system.

Quote:You've probably already seen this but I just stumbled onto it http://radiant.100free.com/zpe_bedini_solid.html#BSP1

That's the third patent that Bedini released. That's one of the ones we've been looking at, but until we got the gist of what is really going on, the schematics make no sense. I still have to fight my old urges and look at these schematics with radiant energy in mind... at least from what I understand of it so far.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-18-2008, 04:31 AM,
#77
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
The 2 resistors in the pic that look to be in series.
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11-18-2008, 04:44 AM,
#78
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Ah okay.
In the original SSG schematic :
[Image: Schematic1.JPG]

The two resistors are used to "tune" the impedance. The fixed resistor is a safety feature in case the varistor goes to 1 Ohm. The varistor is used to increase or decrease resistance of the conventional current on the trigger side. The object is to minimize the current drain to the primary battery while increasing wheel speed. Really we are concerned with magnets per minute as each magnet is a pulse for creating and pushing radiant energy. From what other testers say, including Bedini, is that there may be several sweet spots to find the system resonance. As far as I know, the only way to find them is to run at different resistances and check current drain vs. magnets per minute. Once a system resonant point has been found, the varistor should be replaced by a same value fixed resistor as varistors tend to wander in value.

As it stands now, the first system has 3 resistors in it now for a total of 530Ohms at 1/2w. I only had 1/4w in there before.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-18-2008, 05:20 AM,
#79
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Thanks. You've come quite a ways on this. That was the part I wasn't for sure about, makes sense. I wished they had taught more along these lines back then. Other than a brief Tesla, we went straight into conventional.
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11-19-2008, 05:18 AM,
#80
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Do you mean if you put an inverter on your second battery you could power some serious load? That would be good:)Congrats guys!
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11-28-2008, 06:38 AM,
#81
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:What is the amps doing?

While using the 200 wind air core extra inductor, the current was still 33mA on the load battery and slightly lower at 65mA on the primary battery. So not really a signifigant change in conventional current or apparent DC voltage but there was extra back EMF in the system if the neon bulb is any indicator... which I take it to be.:D
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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12-13-2008, 03:16 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-20-2009, 12:27 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#82
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Here's the latest batch of pictures of the progressing experiments.

The first one has 2 coils of about 850 winds and welding rod cores, 2 transistor circuits and outputs for 2 load or charging batteries. The coils are in parallel with each other and so are the transistor circuits. It can also run just a single load battery from the same setup. I also put a 12V incandescent in series with a 100ohm resistor across the power coil terminals as a current limit and timing light.

The initial run on a single charging battery showed a starting voltage of 13.5V and falling. The cold has been affecting the performance of the batteries, so most recent tests have not been for long charging runs but for output and resonance tests.

[Image: th_DSCF0021.jpg]
The 2 parallel circuits.
I put the potentiometer back in for tuning. There is a 100ohm resistor after that leading to the base of each transistor as a minimum load.

[Image: th_DSCF0024.jpg]
This shows the mounting of the second coil along with the changed terminal strip location.


[Image: th_DSCF0025.jpg]
A close-up of the coils and the current limiting light across the power coils.


Next is one that kingamoth is working on. As pictured it is running on 3 coils, 3 wheels and 3 circuits with one primary and one charging battery. The fan was added on to see how much wind is being generated. The magnet orientation in relation to the coils is also adjustable on this one so that the effect on torque can be seen.

[Image: th_DSCF0029.jpg] [Image: th_DSCF0035.jpg]

[Image: th_DSCF0032.jpg] [Image: th_DSCF0031.jpg]
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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12-13-2008, 06:10 AM,
#83
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Some major advances, looking good
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12-16-2008, 03:42 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2009, 08:44 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#84
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
The next variant up on the bench is an output section test. As I have two coils in the current setup, I unhooked the power side of coil #2 and used it as an isolated output to a rectifier and capacitor to charge the load battery. The trigger side of coil #2 fires with the trigger pulse of the whole system and the output of the power side charges the load capacitor. I have also installed an improv brush contact to close and discharge the cap into the battery once per rotation. The output is just under 10V, so I will change the single cap to a network for a higher capacity.

Here is the schematic:

[Image: ScreenCap_Dec171616.jpg]

This is the newly added output section:
[Image: th_DSCF0019-1.jpg]


The brush contact switch mounted on the wheel:
[Image: th_DSCF0025-1.jpg]

Close-up of the contact closure switch:
[Image: th_DSCF0024-1.jpg]

Video of starting the energizer:



The energizer at running speed:


Here is the video for kingamoth's multi-coil Bedini motor:


There are six coils and six circuits running in that video and is now halfway done!
Stay tuned for more updates!
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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12-22-2008, 03:42 AM,
#85
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Hey easy, is the torque additive when there are multiple rotors on a single shaft? Maybe if you could multiply the torque enough to spin a generator that could be a simple way of getting some free power utilizing the mechanical for something other than just a fan. What do you think? I know a single rotor doesn't have much torque to it but I'd imagine multiple rotors on a single shaft would be additive. From my understanding it's supposed to be relatively easy to get the secondary battery to charge at a rate of about 80% to 90% of the rate of discharge of the primary battery so the mechanical is very efficient so if it can be easily increased that could be something that anyone could do.

I've built my own SSG I'm load testing now just the basic one from the monopole3 group. I'm learning electronics as I go and at times feel overwhelmed at all the stuff there is to learn. I'm looking for the simplest solutions possible when it comes to free energy / renewable energy.

Keep up the good work. I believe free energy is a big part of the solution to all this conspiracy bullshit. You get free power and you can grow your own food indoors economically anywhere regardless of climate. Free transportation, heating and cooling etc. So many possibilities. I'll be following your progress. One thing though, do you do load tests and keep track of your cop performance? I see so many threads on the bedini stuff and people are doing all kinds of things with them but I see very little claims as far as > 1.0 cops. It seems like most people are just playing around changing stuff in the circuits but not really doing detailed testing to methodically improve. Just an observation.



Here is the video for kingamoth's multi-coil Bedini motor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2ECd6NV1KY
There are six coils and six circuits running in that video and is now halfway done!
Stay tuned for more updates!
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12-27-2008, 12:04 AM,
#86
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:Hey easy, is the torque additive when there are multiple rotors on a single shaft?
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id say so because with 1 coil the motor wont self run nor with 2 but with 3 it will. 1 coil per rotor.
i have a video of a test of something similar to what you are asking about. once i get the video off my phone i can share...better videos will follow since i got a new video camera yesterday, but the video is of 6 coils running with this attached to it [attachment=3253:1214081635.jpg]
i wish i had my micro sd to sd card so i could upload that video to show it running my alternator disks we build.
here is another picture of the motor running on 6 coils (2 per rotor (1 top 1 bottom)) with one of the disks i showed in the first picture.[attachment=3254:1215080219.jpg]

its pretty cool when you draw up plans and they actually work.especially when dealing with this tech.
once i get the 12 coils and circuits on there the way i want im going to start phase 2
phase 2 consists of adding the alternator part from a wind generator.
first im going to get the coils wound and placed right and then ill upgrade the magnets to what they use here http://www.otherpower.com/magnetrotors.shtml
if it will work i will then do the rotors proper(magnets alone are $169+shipping, were using cheap ones) and see if i can put out both radiant(bedini side of motor) and Alternating current(magnet rotor side)

im still in the process of getting everything right i am in the process of getting all 12 coils aligned like i want(6 side coils are about a half an inch off from where i had intended but im fixing problems left and right. no big deal thats how all this works! trial by error!

im sorry it seems a big mess of writing and what not rambling on if you need a clear translation ask Easy he has more PR skills than me lol
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12-27-2008, 09:06 AM,
#87
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Keep up the good stuff!
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12-30-2008, 02:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-20-2009, 12:35 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#88
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:Hey easy, is the torque additive when there are multiple rotors on a single shaft? Maybe if you could multiply the torque enough to spin a generator that could be a simple way of getting some free power utilizing the mechanical for something other than just a fan. What do you think?

As kingamoth's experiment seems to show, multiple wheels on the same shaft do seem to have additive torque. The question at the moment is: Are multiple coils on each wheel having a positive effect on the torque or is one coil per wheel enough? As we run them further we will see. As it stands tuning of all of the circuits together is needed but there are all kinds of factors involved, atm.

I am also keeping data from running the systems to actually charge batteries in the various configurations. What's the point in building them if there are no experiments done and no data collected? I keep meaning to put the data into a spreadsheet but I might try to scan the sheets in instead. Anyone want to be a volunteer lab assistant to enter my data?:LOL:

Quote:id say so because with 1 coil the motor wont self run nor with 2 but with 3 it will. 1 coil per rotor.

These are not self-runners. The power is a straight draw from the primary battery as there is no fly back circuit to feed any of the produced energy back to run the wheel. They either run or they have too much mass in addition to the wheels to turn, unless they are up to speed. This has been something that we have heard about with larger wheels, like needing an aircraft starter engine to get the wheel up to speed before engaging the power.

The 12 coil version seems to produce positive feedback when power is applied before the wheel is at a running speed. It would seem to me to indicate that the back EMF to the mechanical spin is too much for the system to overcome at lower speeds. The applied energy and the Back EMF have an inverse relationship as far as the mechanical energy is concerned. So The wheel has not reached the point where the applied energy has overcome the Back EMF for the system to stay running with the extra rotors. This is where that experiment stands.


Here is the next circuit I have built and will be running more tests on.
[Image: th_ScreenCap_Dec291911.jpg]

I am definitely getting more effect on the charging battery in this setup. The voltage is bouncing around more indicating that there is a cold boil going on like is supposed to be happening. The initial voltage starts higher as well. It looks to be a more efficient charge but time will tell. The isolated output section is also up to 10.4V with a slightly larger cap. More work on the cap network is coming.
Both output sections are strongly affected by the varying resistance of the pot. The system likes running in the 260 Ohm range of the pot plus the 100 Ohm on the base of each transistor. This is a lower value than the system liked to see with only 2 transistors in the circuit (560 Ohm + 100 Ohm base). The neons also light much more slowly when the charging #1 is disconnected and not at all when the charging #3 is disconnected.

Here's the new circuit design:

[Image: th_DSCF0018.jpg] [Image: th_DSCF0020.jpg]

If I like the performance of 4 transistors on one coil, I will be adding perhaps 5 or 6 more coils with the 4 transistor circuit on each coil. That will take another redesign of the whole system. The effects of the rectifier and cap network will also help determine how the outputs will end up. The experiment results will steer me in the proper direction.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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12-30-2008, 03:44 PM,
#89
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
well...Im officially lost as to what exactly your doing technically, but the idea and the work you guys have done so far is very impressive. Keep up the great work.
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12-30-2008, 06:11 PM,
#90
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:As kingamoth's experiment seems to show, multiple wheels on the same shaft do seem to have additive torque. The question at the moment is: Are multiple coils on each wheel having a positive effect on the torque or is one coil per wheel enough? As we run them further we will see. As it stands tuning of all of the circuits together is needed but there are all kinds of factors involved, atm.

I would expect that adding multiple coils per rotor would increase the torque too, as you're putting more energy into the rotor rotation, but that'll be interesting to find out for sure. Another question on my mind is assuming you can generate enough torque to spin the alternator, how much is it going to cost you in terms of input to all the coils vs how much you get out from the alternator. It may end up being counter productive. Maybe a this is where the idea of a heavy fly wheel could be used?

Quote:The 12 coil version seems to produce positive feedback when power is applied before the wheel is at a running speed. It would seem to me to indicate that the back EMF to the mechanical spin is too much for the system to overcome at lower speeds. The applied energy and the Back EMF have an inverse relationship as far as the mechanical energy is concerned. So The wheel has not reached the point where the applied energy has overcome the Back EMF for the system to stay running with the extra rotors. This is where that experiment stands.

What exactly is back emf anyway? Since I'm still an electronics newb this is a fuzzy concept at best. Also I'm confused about the relationship between the back emf and the radiant spike are they different or is the radiant spike just another name for the back emf? Got a lot more reading to do.

I'm trying to understand how the circuit can be improved from the basic SSG setup to get more radiant energy out of it and get a COP of > 1.0 in terms of what I'm putting into the system on the input side vs what I'm getting out of the charging batteries via load testing them. You're way ahead of me so maybe you could give me a better idea of this...

In my own setup of the basic SSG I've got one coil and one transistor. My input current in 0.09 amps and the output to my charging battery is about 0.02 amps. In terms of what I'm putting into the charging battery, as indicated by a multimeter vs what I'm getting out of the charging battery I've got a COP of maybe 1.05 or something very small. So it appears I am getting some radiant energy from somewhere. However in terms of overall system COP it's very low far less than one maybe around 0.23, because I'm putting in 0.09 amps and getting out only slightly more than 0.02 amps from the charging battery plus a little bit of radiant. I know the output current into the charging battery will always be less than the input current and there is hidden radiant somewhere. The goal is to multiply the radiant part to the point where it goes above what my total input is into the system.

It looks like you're using multiple transistors now and that would multiply the switching and the radiant spikes but that would also increase the input current as well. How much does your current increase for each transistor you add? Also is the overall system COP improving with more transistors? What about the capacitor what's the advantage to using that? I know the capacitor will convert the negative radiant energy into positive energy but that's about it. Any other advantages? On the coil connected to the capacitor I notice the power side isn't connected to the primary battery, is it working like a generator making a very small dc current and in addition also capturing the radiant spikes in the capacitor?

Good work guys keep it up.
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