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Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
11-14-2008, 04:03 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-14-2008, 04:04 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#61
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
I don't think the heat would be due to back EMF. That is cold as it is convergent energy instead of divergent or conventional current. This circuit has only gotten hot when a component was fried or connected wrong. It always runs cooler than the surrounding air. Since I have my circuit wires run a particular way, the additional coil may be inserted in an incorrect place. It could also be due to the smaller wire gauge or 200 winds instead of 300+. I have a 680 and another 860 wind coils to try as well.

On the larger, I'll probably go with a rheostat to start due to higher voltage ratings. I've been looking to see if the dual coil setup is used there or if it's a 1:2 or if it's a smaller gauge and a larger gauge. Not sure yet on that ...
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-14-2008, 04:38 AM,
#62
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
For some reason I can't get past inductance. The lesser turns or smaller wire would change the inductance as well as resistance.
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11-14-2008, 04:52 AM,
#63
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:For some reason I can't get past inductance.

How so?

Quote:The lesser turns or smaller wire would change the inductance as well as resistance.

Yes, the fewer bifilar turns the less inductance. The smaller the wire diameter, the more resistance to the conventional current. The conventional current is the part of the energy flow that is reacting to the wires. The negative energy or back EMF is more associated in a field state outside the wires, in a virtual state. Since I am using about 75mA of conventional current drain to the primary, I wouldn't expect the #23 & #26 wires to get hot. The main coil of 843 windings never gets hot and runs colder that surrounding air like the rest of the circuit.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-14-2008, 06:02 AM,
#64
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
I cheated : For example, the magnetic flux linking these turns can be increased by coiling the conductor around a material with a high permeability such as iron. This can increase the inductance by 2000 times, although less so at high frequencies.
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11-14-2008, 07:02 AM,
#65
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Right, hilly.
I questioned the lack of a core in this additional coil as well. That strengthens the magnetic field but is more resistant to the transients of back EMF spikes which are essentially a high frequency signal. Very narrow bandwidth and very high amplitude. Seems to me that the magnetic field strength of a coil in that situation is not inportant. Only that there is a change of inductance and impedance.

Bearden writes:
Quote:Using sharp gradients and sharp pulses, the invention stimulates receipt of negative electromagnetic energy from the vacuum. Further, the only limit on how much negative EM energy can be stimulated and received in the system is the sharpness and peak intensity of the gradient, plus the frequency of producing the gradient, plus the the ability of the circuitry to catch and store the negative energy in capacitors, thereby also converting the energy into positive energy.

Essentially, it's the pumping of the conventional current that gets this reaction. By having another pump of the signal through an additional coil, we get additional radiant energy inflow. If there were a core, then the pumping would not produce as sharp of a spike due to the reduced response to high frequency signals.

Have you got a system going, hilly?
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-15-2008, 04:44 AM,
#66
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
I wish. I am so rusty on a lot of this it would be hard to keep up. I and a friend made a similar device years ago but weren't as successful as you have been.

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11-15-2008, 06:16 AM,
#67
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
man, i'm so impressed - top marks Easy!

i'm so tempted to get involved but i did my electronics nearly 30 years and never used it (found a talent for boolean algebra and logic and spent my computer days (to the large part) in logic gates and data manipulation (before everything was ascii)). perhaps when i've completed my current project i'll reconsider, but now i've discovered this thread i'll certainly watch it evolve.

just thinking on this cooling effect... you've got some big wheels going at pretty high speeds, it couldn't be as simple as a wind chill effect, could it? (sorry if that's a stupid suggestion - i've still not quite grasped it, will need to do lots more investigating)

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11-16-2008, 02:21 AM,
#68
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Quote:just thinking on this cooling effect... you've got some big wheels going at pretty high speeds, it couldn't be as simple as a wind chill effect, could it? (sorry if that's a stupid suggestion - i've still not quite grasped it, will need to do lots more investigating)

Thanks, MnR!

The air cooling is noticeable but is different perception wise. When you put your hand near the wheel anywhere around the circumference, you can feel the air moving in specific patterns and can feel the air and the coolness form the air on your skin. When you put your hand right near the coil on either side, there is a "coldness" feeling in your hand. Even when your hand is far enough down to not feel the air moving from the physical mass of the wheel, there is a cold feeling. When we had the two wheels side-by-side, the really, really cold area was in between the two coils, not wheels, in addition to the "usual running cold" near the individual coils them selves. With the super cold area between the two running systems, there was no air movement felt at all. Now here's the strange part: When we measured all of these areas with temp probes, all we get is normal room temperature readings. All of it seems to be a "perceptive" cold field. When we first started running them, we all individually remarked how they felt cold. No instrument has been able to show that there is actually a change in air temperature. When we bring someone in to see them that is new to the whole thing, we get them to put their hands near all the different components and then tell us what they perceive and feel. They all report back that it's cool or cold. So either we all have psychosomatic leanings towards it feeling cold, even the ones that have not been exposed to it, or there is something about this radiant energy that registers to human perception as cold when there is no perceivable physical change in air temperature. Strange.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-16-2008, 02:28 AM,
#69
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
perhaps it's chi:D

i remember seeing a vid about some asian guy, john woo?? can't remember the name, who was evidently producing energy but they couldn't measure it in volts
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11-16-2008, 02:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-16-2008, 02:41 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#70
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
I totally think it is the chi of this "reality". It is the "energy field" that all we know resides on. This same field passes through everything without apparent effect unless it is "intercepted". We are using EM fields to intercept this energy and channel it to our charging battery. Another way to look at it is this: What would intercept everything with a physical existence but yet not have any physical effect on the physical items? Time, the 4th dimension that exists at a right angle to all three axes of this "reality". It's just a 90 degree phase shift, which is how our magnets are oriented, and we have "created" electricity from something we cannot perceive. We can't measure any of the energy we are creating until it is stored as a conventional charge in a capacitor or battery. It's out of phase with our measuring instruments.

The human mind uses each half of the brain to create phase conjugated scalar potential fields, to channel chi into...whatever. This is an explanation for telekinesis, pyrokenesis and telepathy. The same principle as the Russian scalar phase weapons I mentioned in the HAARP patent thread.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-16-2008, 03:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-20-2009, 12:17 AM by Easy Skanking.)
#71
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Experiment Report:

Last night I tried again with this circuit:

[Image: Bedini_w_bifilar.gif]

This time, I made sure that the connections were correct to the way I have the circuit wired. A short bit of background on the circuit operation is needed before it will make sense. Look at the actual circuit picture again to see what I am describing.

[Image: th_DSCF0059-1.jpg]

On the left of the picture and circuit is a 12V 25mA "grain of wheat" bulb with red and white leads. This light flashes at a low level during resonant running. The brighter the light, the more of a conventional current running through the trigger side. So for our purposes, bright is bad, but we do want some conventional current to trigger the event.

In the center of the picture and on the right side of the circuit, is the 120V neon bulb. This serves as an overload protection for the transistor. It is hooked in parallel with the charging battery. If the charging battery comes unhooked while the system is running, the radiant energy that is normally flowing into the charging battery has nowhere to go. So when the charging battery is out of the circuit, the neon bulb glows and flashes very brightly and the "grain of wheat" bulb lights brightly and flashes brightly. So that is under the normal Bedini SSG circuit operation.

When using a 200 wind #23 & #26 bifilar air core coil connected in the circuit as above, something else happens. I started to spin the wheel and the neon bulb glowed brightly shortly after it started to spin. My first thought was that the charging battery had come undone but TWOLIGHT pointed out that the trigger side bulb was flashing like it does during a normal run. So I started it again. The wheel ran like normal with normal voltages showing on the batteries, but there seemed to be a large amount of energy apart from normal DC in the circuit that was causing the neon to burn.

We took another car 12V lead cell battery and placed it in parallel with the #1 charging battery and ran the wheel again. The neon stopped glowing and the smaller bulb continued to flash at a low level as it normally does. So it seems as if the adding of additional load was taking the extra energy that was being burned in the neon on the previous run. So it definitely looks as if the inductive coil is adding additional inflow of radiant energy. How much? I don't know.

While we had the additional battery hooked up as a load, we stepped up to a 680 wind #23 & #26 bifilar air core coil instead of the 200 wind. The wheel started as usual and then the neon came on again with the trigger bulb flashing normally. Normal voltage showed on everything but yet we were getting more radiant than the 2 car batteries could take! Very interesting indeed.

Next we decided to add another device into the load. We tried the 12VDC fan in addition to the batteries. I think there was too much juice in the system then as the fan did not run. The neon was no longer flashing while it ran, but no fan. We took the fan out and tested it in other circuits and with regular batteries and it would not run at all. Toast! Those must be some pretty substantial pikes we are inducing with the larger coil.

As a side note, there is a particular way that this circuit wants to see the load. As we have been connecting them in parallel with the first charging battery, the system will only output voltage to the lowest capacity device in the circuit. To effectively add a load, at least a diode must be added to each load and connected to the same spot as the first charging battery and it's diode. However, the additional voltage in the system may damage the components. There is a better way, but I haven't tested that yet.

If you are doing this yourself, remember that these spikes of voltage can easily be 500V in a basic circuit. Each time you add an inflow, the potential can jump by huge values. I have seen reports of 3 or 4 small coils added in and the system spiked to 1500V! Be careful!
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-16-2008, 06:14 AM,
#72
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
What is the amps doing?
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11-16-2008, 09:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-16-2008, 09:23 PM by Easy Skanking.)
#73
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
I don't know. Now that there are larger spikes present in the system, I've been hesitant to hot swap an ammeter in to see what the current is. I might have to start it up with the meter in to be safer.
I could just be a little too cautious with it, but I tend to keep in mind that the potentials I'm working with are spiking to such high levels from so small charge that I don't want to add an Easy Skanking Inductor to the system, thereby experiencing a super large radiant spike. :shocked:
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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11-17-2008, 02:30 AM,
#74
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
Can't blame you there, never too cautious with electricity. Is the extra diode added for the load why an extra resistor was added?
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11-17-2008, 04:17 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-17-2008, 04:18 AM by hilly7.)
#75
Bedini Monopole Energizer SSG
You've probably already seen this but I just stumbled onto it http://radiant.100free.com/zpe_bedini_solid.html#BSP1
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