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How to become a better Christian
12-29-2008, 08:05 PM,
#31
How to become a better Christian
Aside from some of the great posts in this thread, I figure I'd recommend an interesting book that I actually accidentally bumped into in a Barnes & Nobles near the house. I picked it up and was hooked immediately. I just started reading it but it peaked my interest just based on my own thoughts of certain church traditions. Some here may find it interesting too...
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Book Description
Have you ever wondered why we Christians do what we do for church every Sunday morning? Why do we "dress up" for church? Why does the pastor preach a sermon each week? Why do we have pews, steeples, choirs, and seminaries? This volume reveals the startling truth: most of what Christians do in present-day churches is not rooted in the New Testament, but in pagan culture and rituals developed long after the death of the apostles. Coauthors Frank Viola and George Barna support their thesis with compelling historical evidence in the first-ever book to document the full story of modern Christian church practices.

Many Christians take for granted that their church's practices are rooted in Scripture. Yet those practices look very different from those of the first-century church. The New Testament is not silent on how the early church freely expressed the reality of Christ's indwelling in ways that rocked the first-century world. Times have changed. Pagan Christianity leads us on a fascinating tour through church history, revealing this startling and unsettling truth: Many cherished church traditions embraced today originated not out of the New Testament, but out of pagan practices. One of the most troubling outcomes has been the effect on average believers: turning them from living expressions of Christ's glory and power to passive observers. If you want to see that trend reversed, turn to Pagan Christianity . . . a book that examines and challenges every aspect of our contemporary church experience.
http://www.paganchristianity.org/

It is written from a self-inspecting Christian perspective, especially hard on the average fundamentalist.
I like the quote it started with.

"You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!" - Jesus Christ (Mark 7:9)


"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

DTTNWO!
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12-29-2008, 08:42 PM,
#32
How to become a better Christian
<blockquote>An official asked him this question, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"

Jesus answered him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.

You know the commandments, 'You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness; honor your father and your mother.'"

And he replied, "All of these I have observed from my youth."

When Jesus heard this he said to him, "There is still one thing left for you: sell all that you have and distribute it to the poor, and you will have a treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
</blockquote>
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12-29-2008, 11:52 PM,
#33
How to become a better Christian
Quote:Christmas in Baghdad - I find it all rather unexpected, bizarre and quite confusing. - I don't get it.
but at least they included the birthday boy


@ mexica, Che has killed far too many people to be compared to Jesus.


according to the bible, the lord drowned the continents or continent along with many people, what does that mean. Che was acting in purification mode too. He was doing a very good job according to the CIA, until they figured he was doing hell of a job (Sudan Hussein) in liberating latin america from the north that the CIA and Washington D.C decided to take him out. The CIA murder him, does that make the CIA good christian crusaders or the lord saving people from CHE?
Unite The Many, defeat the few.

Revolution is for the love of your people, culture, knowledge, wisdom, spirit, and peace. Not Greed!
Soul Rebel Native Son


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=277...enous&hl=en
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12-30-2008, 05:42 AM,
#34
How to become a better Christian
Quote:
Quote:Christmas in Baghdad - I find it all rather unexpected, bizarre and quite confusing. - I don't get it.
but at least they included the birthday boy


@ mexica, Che has killed far too many people to be compared to Jesus.


according to the bible, the lord drowned the continents or continent along with many people, what does that mean. Che was acting in purification mode too. He was doing a very good job according to the CIA, until they figured he was doing hell of a job (Sudan Hussein) in liberating latin america from the north that the CIA and Washington D.C decided to take him out. The CIA murder him, does that make the CIA good christian crusaders or the lord saving people from CHE?
mexica I do not know what to say,
I will not get in a biblical debate with you over old testament hebrew/jewish books that I myself have issues with. I do not know how nor would I want to try to defend many parts or those books.
For like I said - I have issues with some of it, just like so many others here. I do not even think that the books should of been compiled and bound together with NT ones.


Why are you on the side of a man that was rasist against mexicans and blacks ?

Mexicans are a rabble of illiterate Indians. South American peasants are nothing but animalitos (little animals)" - Che Guevara
"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving" - Che Guevara


why don't you help me out by translating this film for me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33vXmdJ3j00

and here's a funny one that reminds me of some of your posts - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9-fNouciQ - laugh about it, I mean no harm
&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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12-30-2008, 08:16 AM,
#35
How to become a better Christian
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:Christmas in Baghdad - I find it all rather unexpected, bizarre and quite confusing. - I don't get it.
but at least they included the birthday boy


@ mexica, Che has killed far too many people to be compared to Jesus.


according to the bible, the lord drowned the continents or continent along with many people, what does that mean. Che was acting in purification mode too. He was doing a very good job according to the CIA, until they figured he was doing hell of a job (Sudan Hussein) in liberating latin america from the north that the CIA and Washington D.C decided to take him out. The CIA murder him, does that make the CIA good christian crusaders or the lord saving people from CHE?
mexica I do not know what to say,
I will not get in a biblical debate with you over old testament hebrew/jewish books that I myself have issues with. I do not know how nor would I want to try to defend many parts or those books.
For like I said - I have issues with some of it, just like so many others here. I do not even think that the books should of been compiled and bound together with NT ones.


Why are you on the side of a man that was rasist against mexicans and blacks ?

Mexicans are a rabble of illiterate Indians. South American peasants are nothing but animalitos (little animals)" - Che Guevara
"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving" - Che Guevara


why don't you help me out by translating this film for me - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33vXmdJ3j00

and here's a funny one that reminds me of some of your posts - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9-fNouciQ - laugh about it, I mean no harm


The analysis of what you noted has to be studied and truth found. There are many evil and bad people ranging from spain, brazil, and argentina with descent to europe who like to distort history to benefit their greed, lust, and righteous treachery. Many worked with the CIA to get che cornered, no doubt those that him him assassinated would write their own version to befit them as heroes or traitors.
Unite The Many, defeat the few.

Revolution is for the love of your people, culture, knowledge, wisdom, spirit, and peace. Not Greed!
Soul Rebel Native Son


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=277...enous&hl=en
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