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Can we quit calling Omerica a super power now?
12-30-2008, 03:26 AM,
#16
Can we quit calling Omerica a super power now?
Quote:I am not looking forward to any of it, and find it a bit twisted that so many peeps seems to be giddy at the prospect of death to this country
personally I want the best for all groups and nations - but I guess that is just fairy tale:(

I don't think people want to see the death of it. I certainly do not. What I would like to see is America going broke enough so that she gets her shit together.
It is my humble belief that if America quit throwing her weight (and bombs) around, pulled out of the 130 countries with US military bases in them, minded her
own business in foreign policy and obeyed her own constitution, even her enemies would forgive her.

I am in no way anti-american in this topic...i'm just saying her founding fathers must be rolling in their graves.
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12-30-2008, 04:10 AM,
#17
Can we quit calling Omerica a super power now?
sometimes I think the entire US corporate-military-industrial 'collapse' is really one big heist

after all, so what if the US goes broke on foreign debts,

with military bases in 100 countries, millions in police and military, tens of millions at draft age, ten times the global spending on arms

who the hell is going to collect? and how?
&We grow to recognize form. We grow to label that form. In doing so, do we become more intelligent? Do we become more awakened?& - Siji Tzu 四季子
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12-30-2008, 04:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-30-2008, 04:51 AM by jack.)
#18
Can we quit calling Omerica a super power now?
Quote:
Quote:I am not looking forward to any of it, and find it a bit twisted that so many peeps seems to be giddy at the prospect of death to this country
personally I want the best for all groups and nations - but I guess that is just fairy tale:(

I don't think people want to see the death of it. I certainly do not. What I would like to see is America going broke enough so that she gets her shit together.
It is my humble belief that if America quit throwing her weight (and bombs) around, pulled out of the 130 countries with US military bases in them, minded her
own business in foreign policy and obeyed her own constitution, even her enemies would forgive her.

I am in no way anti-american in this topic...i'm just saying her founding fathers must be rolling in their graves.

No I didn't mean you Ctrl, tho there is one member here that at least as seen through my eyes, would love to see it and even play a part in it. I don't think that they will be happy with the end results however. - Careful what you wish for
Really tho, I wasn't referring to anyone other than all the stuff and news that I see outside of concen.

As for the rest of your comment, I wholeheartedly agree, - yet since I have young children (omg, a breeder/environment killer/resource user) I don't really want to be living on the streets hungry, which is currently where I'm headed without better employment.
Perhaps I really should consider moving to Canada.
Ok, I guess I am being a little over dramatic, not the streets but from a small relatively inexpensive (no arm) house with a yard (the same price or less than a nice apt) to a crappy apt. Of course with my unwillingness to accept gov aid it actually could become the street.
Quote:so that she gets her shit together
Doesn't look like it will happen tho (but there is always hope) b/c as I have read from M.P. Hall (boy does he look like soros) the goal is not a country known as america, but rather the "brotherhood" plans to use her to implement their plan of the west becoming a guide to the nations and a shrine of universal truth, giving rise to the democratic commonwealth (what a laugh) - aka the nwo.
&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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12-31-2008, 06:43 AM,
#19
Can we quit calling Omerica a super power now?
I hope and pray that we come out of this as a great nation, just opposite of what we are now. I see not only our decent people having hard times but hard times we have forced on others around the world, especially through the big corporations (Monsantos) comes to mind as well as big oil. Then the "You're going to be free (conditions apply) the way we think you should and like it we spread across the globe. It has to stop.

We are falling as a nation and after Feb, I think it will go into a free fall. For the ones who have remained aware, considerate, kind, and humble... I will hate it. For those arrogant pricks that look down on people, live exuberant lifestyles, and feel so damn important...I will enjoy. The poor have been paying this for a long time and the middle class are now added, guess who will take their places?

We have changed what a Christian is, an American is, a government is. I believe it was 1 1/2 years ago it showed that 62% of the children here in America go to bed hungry. I see what we do to countries and their peoples if they do not bend down to worship the coo that has taken over these last 30 years, and I am embarrassed.

I look for a revolution, not of words but actions to begin soon. First of course we will have to attack an "evil" place, war profits TPTB. Maybe before they can start another senseless killing however, Americans can take back the country. Then sometimes I can't help but wonder when if ever people will decide they have had enough and be willing to fight back and sacrifice.

I do look for us to take the world down with us financially, it seems it goes in waves. Maybe hard times is what is needed for people to stop being human and learn to be human beings. It would be nice to go back to a time like when I was younger and people were honorable, humble, kind, truthful, and caring. I remember the stickers that Lowes passed out when the war started that said "The Power of Pride", it should have added pride goeth before a fall.

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