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Protests in London on Sunday & Monday
01-04-2009, 07:31 PM,
#31
Protests in London on Sunday & Monday
Read that article, doesn't seem to suggest they are starving, just in poverty, there is a difference. Mayby Im in a devils advocate kind of mood, as I do not support the blockade of palestine in the slightest. I just like to try to be acurate, otherwise you give ammunition to the opposition.

We all know that the route Isreal is taking just makes the situation worse. Because of this, Isreal just says we are obviously not being brutal enough. Military force is not the answer.
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01-04-2009, 07:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-04-2009, 08:00 PM by mothandrust.)
#32
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Quote:Read that article, doesn't seem to suggest they are starving, just in poverty, there is a difference. Mayby Im in a devils advocate kind of mood, as I do not support the blockade of palestine in the slightest. I just like to try to be acurate, otherwise you give ammunition to the opposition.
nothing wrong with playing devil's advocate, very useful, particularly if people are prepared to be open minded:D

i will admit that i am so disgusted, not just with what is going on in Palestine, but the media representations and governments worldwide it is difficult for me to remain dispassionate.

i accept your point re physical starvation, it appears as if enough UN aid dribbles through to at least maintain life in a physical sense (ignoring malnutrition, preventable disease...). but people can also be starved of hope, of compassion, understanding, meaning... and love, don't you think?
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01-04-2009, 08:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-04-2009, 08:52 PM by MGoku.)
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I was with some mates just a few days down in Kensington high street, London where the israelly embassy was because there was a protest there. by the way we where at the front line.... this is why thiss all happend and thanx to some ppl around aswell that made it hot and interestin

so me, freinds, and ppl where all protestin and some how it kiked off lol, some threw stuff some pushed police, so we have this freind that is religious islamicly and there was an old lady protesting and some officer decided to push her so our freind got pissed and he said "dont push here u know it agaisnt her religion to be touchd"... so officer decided to be brave hes punk police freinds... woman falls from the push our freind piks her up and lol a punch to the officer, and another punch to the another police (female) it kiked off even worse, that brotha got taken for wat happend, he reported back to us when he came out next day he said" i was abused racially attacked about my religion and because am a arab". Eve though hes a Moroccan Which Makes him an African.....

well wat happend to me and my freind we got kiked and we kiked and knocked out an officer baby (What goes around comes Back Around!) but at one point we had to run cuz they brought officers with dogs and we where chased

our other freind was wearing a red jumper that was obvious to spot and not much ppl wear that colour, soo hes doing hes bit, and all the sudden the brotha become a priority to 2 teams and be transported to a jail??? whats that all about? lol the ansa they thought he was the trouble maker. anyway he stayed only 7 hours and they wanted to charge him with 8 records but they didnt now hes phone and landline are hooked up to the punk police..........

i hope i made sence just wanted to share the fun and emmm fun even though its a serious matta

well hey we got pushed to be protective or bad so thats wat they get

its funny wat i said its the same concept

gaza ppl get pushed and bad things come up against israel.....

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01-04-2009, 11:03 PM,
#34
Protests in London on Sunday & Monday
Sounds like you were in your element, MGoku :D

Protesters throw shoes in demonstrations against Israeli invasion of Gaza

Sun, 04 Jan 2009 1:51p.m.

Tens of thousands of people demonstrated in European cities against Israel's bombardment of Gaza, including protesters who hurled shoes at the tall iron gates outside the British prime minister's residence in London.

Amid increasing criticism of Israel, international diplomatic efforts are growing to end the strikes, which have killed more than 460 people and left 1,700 injured. Late Saturday, Israel launched a ground offensive, sending tanks and infantry into Gaza.

In London, at least 10,000 people, many carrying Palestinian flags, marched past Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Downing Street residence to a rally in Trafalgar Square. Outside Downing Street, hundreds of protesters stopped and threw shoes at the gates that block entry to the narrow road.

Shoe-throwing has become a popular gesture of protest and contempt since an Iraqi journalist pelted US President George W Bush with a pair of brogues in Baghdad last month.

Police estimated the crowd in London at 10,000 to 12,000, but organisers said the number was much higher. The marchers included activist Bianca Jagger, ex-Eurythmics singer Annie Lennox and comedian Alexei Sayle.

"As a Jew, it's very moving to see so many people who are so outraged at Israel's actions," Sayle said. "Israel is a democratic country that is behaving like a terrorist organisation."

After the rally, about 5,000 protesters marched on the Israeli Embassy in west London. Some youths burned Israeli flags and scuffled with police and hurled bottles and sticks at officers in riot gear. Several demonstrators were led away by police after leaping over metal barriers holding them back from the embassy.

Protest organisers accused police of charging into groups of demonstrators on the way to the embassy, and said they would file a complaint.

Rallies also were held in other British cities - including Manchester, Liverpool and Glasgow - and across Europe. Protests in Paris, Amsterdam, Rome and Berlin all drew thousands of people.

In Paris, police said 21,000 marched through the streets, shouting "We are all Palestinians" and "Israel assassin". Later, about 500 of the protesters turned violent, throwing objects at police, burning Israeli flags, overturning and torching cars, and vandalising several shops, police said. Ten police officers were injured in the clashes and 20 protesters arrested, a Paris police spokeswoman said.

Angry protests continued for a second day in Turkey, where about 5,000 demonstrators shouted "killer Israel" in downtown Ankara.

In The Netherlands, thousands of people marched through Amsterdam, criticising both the Israeli attacks and the Dutch government's failure to condemn them. One banner declared: "Anne Frank is turning in her grave. Oh Israel!"

More than 4,000 people demonstrated in Duesseldorf, Germany, and some 5,000 in Frankfurt. One group in Duesseldorf held up a doll representing a bleeding baby with the placard "Made in Israel".

In Berlin, more than 7,000 people braved freezing temperatures for a march along the capital's Unter den Linden boulevard.

Another 2,500 demonstrated in Salzburg, Austria, while scores protested peacefully in Madrid outside the Spanish Foreign Ministry.

Hundreds more marched in the Swedish cities of Malmo and Uppsala, while in Oslo, Norway demonstrators marched from the parliament to the Israeli Embassy, calling on Israel to "let Gaza live."

In Athens, Greece - the scene of violent demonstrations by anarchist youths over the past month - a few of the 5,000 protesters threw stones and petrol bombs at police outside the Israeli Embassy. Riot police retaliated with tear gas and stun grenades.

In Cyprus, demonstrators pelted riot police with rocks, sticks, shoes and oranges near the Israeli Embassy in Nicosia. A peaceful protest by about 2,000 people turned violent when some protesters tried to break through a line of police blocking the road leading to the embassy. The demonstrators eventually dispersed.

Israel says it is responding to rockets fired from Gaza by the Hamas militant group. Four Israelis also have been killed in the week of violence.

Brown's office said Saturday the British leader had phoned Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and called for an immediate cease-fire.

"Rocket attacks from Hamas must stop, and we have called for a halt to Israeli military action in Gaza," a spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with government policy. "Too many have died and we need space to get humanitarian supplies to those who need them."

The Israeli airstrikes have badly damaged Gaza's infrastructure, knocking out power and water in many areas and raising fears of humanitarian disaster. Israel said its offensive is designed to wipe out the threat from Hamas, which holds political power in the territory.

Bush has declined to criticise Israel, branding Hamas rocket fire an "act of terror". But he has joined other world leaders in calling for an internationally monitored truce. UN chief Ban Ki-moon also has backed a cease-fire, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy will visit the region next week as part of a diplomatic effort to stop the violence.

AP
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01-05-2009, 05:41 AM,
#35
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Shoes are very symbolic at protests I found out. Nice story Mgoku, I have a quick story too. I was at a protest in OC and met a Jew on our side. He tried to explain and promote his idea that capitalist Israel has to go and be replaced with Marxism:unsure:
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01-06-2009, 01:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-06-2009, 01:31 PM by MGoku.)
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Quote:Shoes are very symbolic at protests I found out. Nice story Mgoku, I have a quick story too. I was at a protest in OC and met a Jew on our side. He tried to explain and promote his idea that capitalist Israel has to go and be replaced with Marxism:unsure:

lol i still need to learn how to add a quote from others...

well cheers nik & MasterMG, i hope all that read this topic had a good new year.... anyway

marxism: Marxism is the system of socialism of which the dominant feature is public ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange.

i still dont get the idea of what it means? even though i researchd.......a bit:), does it mean it will be more of co-operations running things??? what does that doo lol?
Marxism, ideasim, sexism thingsim lol sorry not taken the piss its just these israely ppl or gov need to realise its commensence:
you see the israely gov are moving into palestenian land then sayin its theirs... u c now those palestenians that used to have a house or shop or land have nothin and had to abondon their place with fear or been over powerd, and now some one without any rights lives in that land obviously a israely family/ families. thats wats causin these things go mad

i mean how would any of us feel if that happend to us by some random person random race and random beleifs, shit id go Terminator 1 if i had gud gear on me to get my rights back

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01-06-2009, 02:46 PM,
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Another protest this saturday!!

National Demonstration: Saturday 10 January
Stop theMassacre : Israel Out of Gaza
Assemble 12.30pm Speakers Corner, Hyde Park
March to Israeli Embassy, High St Kensington, London
The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall. - Che Guevara

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01-06-2009, 08:01 PM,
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Protests in London on Sunday & Monday
Quote:
Quote:Shoes are very symbolic at protests I found out. Nice story Mgoku, I have a quick story too. I was at a protest in OC and met a Jew on our side. He tried to explain and promote his idea that capitalist Israel has to go and be replaced with Marxism:unsure:

lol i still need to learn how to add a quote from others...

If youre talking about nested quotes, ie: one nested inside the other, this will help you...

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[quote name='MasterMG' post='156986' date='Jan 5 2009, 04:41 AM']Shoes are very symbolic at protests I found out. Nice story Mgoku, I have a quick story too. I was at a protest in OC and met a Jew on our side. He tried to explain and promote his idea that capitalist Israel has to go and be replaced with Marxism :unsure:[/quote]

lol i still need to learn how to add a quote from others...
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01-06-2009, 08:42 PM,
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Marxism derived from the guy Karl Marx, the Jewish satanist who promoted communism/socialism. The difference between communism and socialism is that there is no authority in communism, everyone is equal. In this system, everyone works and gets paid the same amount, and all products are produced and remain in the country. This type of governement is proven not to work.
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01-06-2009, 08:43 PM,
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Quote:Marxism derived from the guy Karl Marx, the Jewish satanist who promoted communism/socialism. The difference between communism and socialism is that there is no authority in communism, everyone is equal. In this system, everyone works and gets paid the same amount, and all products are produced and remain in the country. This type of governement is proven not to work.
To quote me for example, press the 'quote' button at the bottom right of this message, and then type what you want under it.
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