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Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
09-26-2009, 10:30 PM,
#91
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
I still don't prescribe to GW, climate change yes, but on a natural scale, perhaps a mixture of sunspots and the galactic plane. I'll be the first to admit we need to clean up our act and as bad as it sounds, using up the natural resources and those we don't use we abuse. One can also see the changes we have made in the environment itself and at some time the earth will shake us off it's back like fleas.

The trail we see from radar are probably both chemtrails and contrails. Since we share the same sky I'm sure we see many of the same from different perspectives. Sort of an illusion due to expansion. Chemical or molecular reaction could also account for some and would take far less of the chemicals we see being displaced verses reaction with natural chemicals at that elevation. To watch a crop dusting one would not think that planes that small would be able to dust as they do, or when they spray DDT. Not so much volume of material as selection of material as reaction expands the effect when added with the natural values that exist. The illusion would be more than it appears while the end product would be more than applied.

I give credence to that being but one avenue of depopulation and depopulation credence to common sense. A set value can only sustain a set number. Not a thing that is a good thing or a popular thing, but a fact none the same.
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09-26-2009, 11:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-26-2009, 11:29 PM by JazzRoc.)
#92
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
hilly:

I still don't prescribe to GW, climate change yes, but on a natural scale, perhaps a mixture of sunspots and the galactic plane.
You should see the way glaciers are disappearing. The Sun's output is fairly constant and is very accurately measured. The galactic plane effects are too slow to account for what is happening.

I'll be the first to admit we need to clean up our act and as bad as it sounds, using up the natural resources and those we don't use we abuse. One can also see the changes we have made in the environment itself and at some time the earth will shake us off its back like fleas.
We should turn petroleum into polythene and other recyclable plastics. We (especially the US) are totally wasteful with energy. It is totally and disgustingly wasteful. If the Earth shook us off tomorrow I would be cheering as I croaked.

The trails we see from radar are probably both chemtrails and contrails.
NO. The trails are made of ICE which is PURER THAN TAP WATER.

Since we share the same sky I'm sure we see many of the same from different perspectives. Sort of an illusion due to expansion. Chemical or molecular reaction could also account for some and would take far less of the chemicals we see being displaced verses reaction with natural chemicals at that elevation.
NO. The stratosphere is HUMID (to varying degrees) and TRANSPARENT. It is PURE. If it were not pure, then the impurity (whatever it might be) would FORM A CLOUD. The cloud would fall, leaving, once more, PURE air. Why can't you get this?

To watch a crop dusting one would not think that planes that small would be able to dust as they do, or when they spray DDT. Not so much volume of material as selection of material as reaction expands the effect when added with the natural values that exist. The illusion would be more than it appears while the end product would be more than applied.
NO. The expansion of contrail ice in a supersaturated layer of the stratosphere may be up to TEN THOUSANDFOLD. THIS is why the "end product would be more than applied". The extra water comes out of supersaturation. Supersaturation (which happens 17% of the time) can ONLY OCCUR IN CONDITIONS OF ABSOLUTE PURITY.

I give credence to that being but one avenue of depopulation and depopulation credence to common sense. A set value can only sustain a set number. Not a thing that is a good thing or a popular thing, but a fact none the same.
What you say here is irrelevant gibberish. Don't be a "useless eater".

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/science/creati...ratosphere.html


And an interesting quote: "A common misconception about aerosols is that they come from spray canisters, used for products such as deodorant, and that they damage the ozone layer. In the past the gases used as propellants in spray cans were damaging to the ozone layer, but not the aerosol particles themselves. Under the Montreal Protocol, these propellants have been replaced by non-ozone depleting substitutes. However, these gas replacements are greenhouse gases and add a small component to the global warming problem (from IPCC, 2007)."
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09-27-2009, 02:20 AM,
#93
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
JR, don't take this wrong, but I missed arguing with you.;)
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09-27-2009, 08:45 PM,
#94
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:JR, don't take this wrong, but I missed arguing with you.;)
Obviously not, because that certainly stopped the argument.:)
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09-28-2009, 12:39 AM,
#95
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:
Quote:JR, don't take this wrong, but I missed arguing with you.;)
Obviously not, because that certainly stopped the argument.:)

:DI had to do some useless eating, lol. Homemade Chili. Soon afterward, I'll create some green house gasses of my own. Besides, you didn't give me a lot to argue with there, lol

Question: Chemical released into the stratosphere, You said they form a cloud and the atmosphere becomes once again pure and the could would fall. Soooo where does this cloud with it's impurity fall?

I'd say I agree with the galactic plane theory.

The sun spots (storms) have slowed down the last few years which effect all worlds.

Let's start with those.:P
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09-28-2009, 01:35 AM,
#96
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Sunspot activity hasn't just slowed down, it has basically stopped.

The output of the sun is not consistent in terms of how it affects Earth. It has changed dramatically in recent years.
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09-28-2009, 01:44 AM,
#97
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
jr says
Quote:Hilly, you know that journalists as a whole are NOT part of any conspiracy.

Editors decide what journalists articles will get published and the owners of corporate media decide who will be editors. Woe betide the editor who doesn't toe the corporate line.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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09-28-2009, 02:43 AM,
#98
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:jr says
Quote:Hilly, you know that journalists as a whole are NOT part of any conspiracy.

Editors decide what journalists articles will get published and the owners of corporate media decide who will be editors. Woe betide the editor who doesn't toe the corporate line.

:yikes:surely not!!

We'll sell you whatever it takes
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09-28-2009, 03:10 AM,
#99
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Shuuu, Your not suppose to give JR the correct answers.:D
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09-28-2009, 03:21 AM,
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:Shuuu, Your not suppose to give JR the correct answers.:D

He would be doing a drastic 180 if he started in with that particular fable:D
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09-28-2009, 03:34 AM,
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
:DI was wondering what he would start with and where it would lead.
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09-28-2009, 11:06 AM,
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:Editors decide what journalists articles will get published and the owners of corporate media decide who will be editors. Woe betide the editor who doesn't toe the corporate line.
That's always been true from WAY back.

It still doesn't MAKE journalists PART of a "conspiracy".

If you want to OBSERVE the difference you only have to compare EARLY MORNING breaking news with the LATE EVENING news.

It's as plain as a pikestaff.
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09-28-2009, 11:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-28-2009, 11:38 AM by JazzRoc.)
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:Question: Chemical released into the stratosphere, You said they form a cloud and the atmosphere becomes once again pure and the could would fall. Soooo where does this cloud with its impurity fall?
Not very far. Just as far down as the next stratospheric layer. The chances are that will be less humid. The aerosol (particulate) matter sheds the water nucleated around it back as water vapor in the drier layer - and ends up as particles again.

You have to remember that natural particulate aerosols are microscopic in size. They can be a SINGLE molecule.

The net result is that they are TRANSPORTED downwards WHENEVER they meet agglomerating ice (stratosphere) or condensing water vapor (troposphere).

They'll finally end up on the land or back in the sea. THAT is how massive volcanic eruptive clouds get cleared back to fresh air. It normally takes about a decade or so.

Quote:I'd say I agree with the galactic plane theory.
You aren't listening. That's a cycle time of millions of years: far too slow to account for any "hockeystick".
http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/139/gala...habitable-zones

Quote:The sun spots (storms) have slowed down the last few years which effect all worlds.
The Sun cycles every eleven years: far too quick to account etc.

If you have enemies to beat you'd better get smarter than them.
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09-28-2009, 11:46 AM,
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
Quote:
Quote:Editors decide what journalists articles will get published and the owners of corporate media decide who will be editors. Woe betide the editor who doesn't toe the corporate line.
That's always been true from WAY back.

It still doesn't MAKE journalists PART of a "conspiracy".

If you want to OBSERVE the difference you only have to compare EARLY MORNING breaking news with the LATE EVENING news.

It's as plain as a pikestaff.

It means journalists have to tailor their wares to suit the editors who have to oversee the journalists to ensure that the global corporate mafias agenda is augmented by or unaffected by what is published. If anything detrimental must be published then obfuscation must take place.
An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it.
Mohandas Gandhi


Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind.
Did you think you were put here for something less?
Chief Arvol Looking Horse
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09-28-2009, 12:17 PM,
Sprayed Aerosols Could Ease Climate Woes
JR - Ah, one more avenue we disagree with on. You are not the enemy, or at least I don't view you as one. I don't speak with an enemy.

Now, whatever goes up must come down. We agree on that one, and actually the galactic plane ( too long to accurately know the effects). Now 10 years though? My Saint Helen eruption I think stayed 5 years (not really that important point though) but particles that went up came down, some within days.

Your turn.:D
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