Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Mainstream media finally wakes up to irregularities in Gaza casualty figures
08-11-2014, 09:33 AM,
#1
Mainstream media finally wakes up to irregularities in Gaza casualty figures
Quote:Caution needed with Gaza casualty figures

Among civilians, more than three times as many men were killed as women, while three times as many civilian men were killed as fighters. [...] Nonetheless, if the Israeli attacks have been "indiscriminate", as the UN Human Rights Council says, it is hard to work out why they have killed so many more civilian men than women.

[...]

An analysis by the New York Times looked at the names of 1,431 casualties and found that "the population most likely to be militants, men ages 20 to 29, is also the most overrepresented in the death toll. They are 9% of Gaza's 1.7 million residents, but 34% of those killed whose ages were provided."

"At the same time, women and children under 15, the least likely to be legitimate targets, were the most underrepresented, making up 71% of the population and 33% of the known-age casualties."

The list of names and ages of the dead published by al-Jazeera also found men aged between 20 and 29 to be significantly overrepresented.

[...]

Spokesman Capt Eytan Buchman told BBC News that "the UN numbers being reported are, by and by large, based on the Gaza health ministry, a Hamas-run organisation".

He said that part of the reason for the discrepancy between the figures was "when militants are brought to hospitals, they are brought in civilian clothing, obscuring terrorist affiliations".

"Hamas also has given local residents directives to obscure militant identities," he said.

"It's important to bear in mind that in Operation Cast Lead [the last Israeli ground offensive in December 2008-January 2009], Hamas and Gaza-based organisations claimed that only 50 combatants were killed, admitting years later the number was between 600-700, a figure nearly identical to the figure claimed by the IDF."

In conclusion, we do not yet know for sure how many of the dead in Gaza are civilians and how many were fighters.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28688179

The ridiculous conspiracy theory disseminated by Kenneth Roth of HRW as a response via Twitter:

Quote:"Young men over-represented among Gaza dead: unclear if Hamas won't acknowledge fighters or Israel targets young men."

https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/497967947479273472

Priceless! Either it is "indiscriminate" or it is not.

Quote:BBC and NYT Admit Gazan Civilan Casualty Stats Not Credible

Just one of the problems cite[d] by the Times is that:

"Human rights groups acknowledge that people killed by Hamas as collaborators and people who died naturally, or perhaps through domestic violence, are most likely counted as well."

http://honestreporting.com/bbc-and-nyt-admit-gazan-civilian-casualty-stats-not-credible/




PS: to prevent the inevitable claim that the BBC and the New York Times are overly "Zionist", study the sites www.camera.org and www.bbcwatch.org – the former a good general prescription if you think that all the mainstream media is controlled by Zionists

Quote:The BBC -World's Largest Media Organization - Finally Questions Gaza Casualties

did these two media giants [the BBC and the New York Times] intentionally delay reporting on this topic during the period of heaviest coverage of the conflict in order to allow Hamas and its supporters plenty of time to implant the perception that Israel's response was disproportionate and indiscriminate?

http://blog.camera.org/archives/2014/08/bbc_worlds_largest_media_organ.html

[Image: gaza+calendar.png]
Reply
08-11-2014, 11:04 AM,
#2
RE: Mainstream media finally wakes up to irregularities in Gaza casualty figures
Sir BustaBear Wrote:An analysis by the New York Times looked at the names of 1,431 casualties and found that "the population most likely to be militants, men ages 20 to 29, is also the most overrepresented in the death toll. They are 9% of Gaza's 1.7 million residents, but 34% of those killed whose ages were provided."

"At the same time, women and children under 15, the least likely to be legitimate targets, were the most underrepresented, making up 71% of the population and 33% of the known-age casualties."
tell you what....... let's look then .. 1st line i put in bold...... isn't that supposition then??? as opposed to cold hard fact???
hmmm.. again let's look... we'll call it 1500 total just to make it easier to count...... that's 510 women and children......... are tou saying even THAT is acceptable?? IS IT FUCK ACCEPTABLE!!!
Also that calendar.. that is mocking the death of those women and children..
Quote:In conclusion, we do not yet know for sure how many of the dead in Gaza are civilians and how many were fighters.
oh did they just admit they haven't a clue??????? and thus plucked that shit out their collective hasbara rectum?
i think so......
Also.. why do you think there are 71% women and children there??? isn't that an oddly disproportionate number??
maybe it IS because rather a lot of men get shot... and it seems that a specific profile is used...
Quote:"the population most likely to be militants
... well we CAN call it racial profiling..........
[Image: siolflag.gif]
Reply


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Gaza salvo continues: Soldier, civilian wounded by rocket newsthet 17 2,229 08-11-2014, 10:55 AM
Last Post: pax681
  Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive bristopen 161 21,576 08-09-2014, 03:21 PM
Last Post: nofunclub
  Israel agrees to extend current Gaza ceasefire; Hamas vows to renew fire newsthet 5 840 08-06-2014, 11:13 PM
Last Post: pax681
  Israel massacres Gaza - "Like Shooting Fish in a Barre mexika 0 418 08-06-2014, 07:21 PM
Last Post: mexika
  #GAZA MEE Frank2 0 374 08-04-2014, 10:07 AM
Last Post: Frank2
  35% of the wounded in Gaza suffer disabilities Frank2 0 367 08-04-2014, 09:49 AM
Last Post: Frank2
  Chomsky: Israel committed ‘war crimes’ in Gaza Frank2 0 400 08-04-2014, 09:06 AM
Last Post: Frank2
  Gaza: Israel's $4 billion gas grab Frank2 50 6,060 08-03-2014, 05:11 AM
Last Post: mexika
  Israel starts Gaza ground offensive drummer 5 583 07-20-2014, 04:53 AM
Last Post: nofunclub
  Who Are The Puppet Masters That Control The Media And Politicians? mexika 0 293 02-04-2014, 11:51 PM
Last Post: mexika

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)