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Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
07-24-2014, 02:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2014, 03:03 PM by newsthet.)
#46
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 01:04 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:44 AM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:12 AM)JFK Wrote: Oh silly me, I thought Hamas tunnels were the target... Not the beach, which BTW is not "urban".

Thinking
Or is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean ? Icon_rolleyes

You are just being an ignorant. Clap
The operation is not just tunnels anyway I'm not going to argue I know who I'm dealing with.

You say that it's O.K that Hamas tunneled into Israel ,had tens of tunnels ready for a calling day ,ready to slaughter hundreds of Jews and kidnapping 'em?

You know that the other day Hamas rocket killed Thai worker at an open filed near Gaza ?
Please show me exactly where I said that.
If you are unable, I shall assume you are just another useless troll.

You didn't say that.
how is "is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean" relevant?

Hamas terror zones are everywhere, they fire to Israeli towns from each available space in Gaza, have rockets, missile launchers and ammunition all over the place.

(07-24-2014, 12:41 PM)nofunclub Wrote: Attack of the hasbara warrior
I'm not, even if so, It seems that you need some hasbara.
You say basically that Israel is to blame for every thing ans the other side is pure current? what does it make you? did you ever post something positive about Israel ?

If i was Hasbara warrior I would write here more than few words, It sickening me to see people posting one sided opinions In a forum that I once liked.

A conspiracy site that spread lies and gives information from a very biased and wrong sources can't be taken seriously.

nofunclub, you know the word hasbara, where are you from?

7 Facts about Operation Protective Edge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOjdy0bslGk Just 1:53 mins.

In this few weeks since the war started I've got to know about Dr.Tawfik Hamid.
Just watch this: Arabs for Israel - Muslims for Israel -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao94x-KemJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lEhFDtWogU Jihad is fueled by Islamism, not Palestine- Dr. Tawfik Hamid

If you want to hear reasonable voices from the other side look for:
Dr.Tawfik Hamid and Son of the Hamas.
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07-24-2014, 04:44 PM,
#47
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
Why don't Western Europe and North America bring over all the Jews of Israel as citizens, give them a $25,000 a year pension and let the world live in peace ?.

It won't make any difference locally anyway. They already control the media, the politicians, the law enforcement agencies and the economy. Instead of wiring them money to Israel as usual, they will be right next door, you will save the money-transfer fees. Then all the tanks and planes that Europe and America give to Israel can be melt and used for other non-lethal things.

Just a thought.
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07-24-2014, 05:00 PM,
#48
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 04:44 PM)rockingtheboat Wrote: Why don't Western Europe and North America bring over all the Jews of Israel as citizens, give them a $25,000 a year pension and let the world live in peace ?.

Just a thought.

They need to heal. Money won't do that!

I think at some level, for most who are not the creators of this political nightmare, they are participating because they are manifesting unresolved emotional trauma. But, they can only be manifesting in such actions because the controllers have set the stage and created the play for them to act out.

The controllers have created this country called Is-not-real (i.e. Israel) for their own interests. The Rothschilds, and others Zionists, have been instrumental in creating this country, as well as WWI and WWII who were needed to get to this point. I won't get into that.

It is known that trauma, especially when brought on at the early age of childhood and onward, will create narcissism. This can be used to manipulate people given that they will have the need to purge their childhood trauma.

The Jewish culture, unfortunately, is permeated with trauma. It starts at childhood with circumcision for men, learning about their history (one cultural trauma to the next), the so called Holocaust (the mother of all traumas), and a constant reminder of how the Goys (the non-Jews) are all anti-semitic (which is not true, but they beLIEve and promote that reality at all cost (it's become a lucrative business; there's no business like Shoabusiness). And then you have the religious texts that teach that "Jews are the chosen ones by God", and the "God will give them their promised land (Israel), which reinforces their narcissistic tendencies, and justifies their violent behavior that they disguise as "protecting themselves".

But yet, it's a purge to some degree, but also a manipulation from the controllers who use their cultural upbringing (trauma + narcissism + emotional weaknesses).

Now more than ever, it's all in plain view for everyone to see, including themselves, and perhaps it needed to be in the light (spotlight) for awareness to grow?

They need to heal indeed.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/israel-is-outgassing-its-unhealed-trauma/
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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07-24-2014, 05:31 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2014, 05:43 PM by newsthet.)
#49
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 05:00 PM)Watchdog Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 04:44 PM)rockingtheboat Wrote: Why don't Western Europe and North America bring over all the Jews of Israel as citizens, give them a $25,000 a year pension and let the world live in peace ?.

Just a thought.

They need to heal. Money won't do that!

I think at some level, for most who are not the creators of this political nightmare, they are participating because they are manifesting unresolved emotional trauma. But, they can only be manifesting in such actions because the controllers have set the stage and created the play for them to act out.

The controllers have created this country called Is-not-real (i.e. Israel) for their own interests. The Rothschilds, and others Zionists, have been instrumental in creating this country, as well as WWI and WWII who were needed to get to this point. I won't get into that.

It is known that trauma, especially when brought on at the early age of childhood and onward, will create narcissism. This can be used to manipulate people given that they will have the need to purge their childhood trauma.

The Jewish culture, unfortunately, is permeated with trauma. It starts at childhood with circumcision for men, learning about their history (one cultural trauma to the next), the so called Holocaust (the mother of all traumas), and a constant reminder of how the Goys (the non-Jews) are all anti-semitic (which is not true, but they beLIEve and promote that reality at all cost (it's become a lucrative business; there's no business like Shoabusiness). And then you have the religious texts that teach that "Jews are the chosen ones by God", and the "God will give them their promised land (Israel), which reinforces their narcissistic tendencies, and justifies their violent behavior that they disguise as "protecting themselves".

But yet, it's a purge to some degree, but also a manipulation from the controllers who use their cultural upbringing (trauma + narcissism + emotional weaknesses).

Now more than ever, it's all in plain view for everyone to see, including themselves, and perhaps it needed to be in the light (spotlight) for awareness to grow?

They need to heal indeed.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/israel-is-outgassing-its-unhealed-trauma/

I'm from Israel there might be very very little to what you say about the creation of Israel, say thanks to Hitler may he rest in hell.

you got the traumas wrong, all Israel and Jewish traumas make us united leave differences aside at time of need and be together to fight for our lives.

I have 29 years experience in Israel (born and raised), keep this in mind: "Goys (the non-Jews) are all anti-Semitic" Is bullshit the anti-Semitic calls goes for those who calls for the distinction of Israel. People hear have no problems with foreigners, as in any other country there are the minority that have radical ideas but we are ,not like our "friendly" neighborhood, If they do something that Is outside the law they go to prison.

Watchdog have you ever been to Israel?

"SAY NO MORE : Australian volunteer in Gaza and Jenin found Children suicide bombers"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zw8qQIhZZ8
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07-24-2014, 07:18 PM,
#50
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 05:31 PM)newsthet Wrote: I'm from Israel...

...you got the traumas wrong, all Israel and Jewish traumas make us united leave differences aside at time of need and be together to fight for our lives....

....

Watchdog have you ever been to Israel?


Did you take the time to read this: http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/israel-is-outgassing-its-unhealed-trauma/

???

You'll notice that the author is Jewish. Just read it and then tell me how wrong we are (him and my overstanding).

No I've never been to Israel.
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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07-24-2014, 07:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2014, 09:00 PM by mexika.)
#51
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
– why is Hamas shooting off missiles in the first place? Though Hamas shooting rockets into Israel can in no way be condoned, when we look at the situation in a broader context, we see that Hamas is terrorizing Israel in response to the terror, genocide and holocaust being perpetrated by Israel upon the Palestinians. Hamas is lobbing missiles into Israel to publicize the plight of the Palestinians, to bring international attention to the fact that they are being imprisoned and starved to death, as Israel has not been permitting sufficient food, water, fuel and medicine into the death camp which is Gaza.

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpres...ed-trauma/

Why would anybody go to is-real? Go to mexico since its a lot more real and beautiful, leave your freaking hating of a genuine culture at your diseased place and come to mexico, a real place. Yes it has issues, but it does not kill its neighbors, lynches them because of color or religion. The drug cartels are not mexican, they are the products of u.s greed and capatalism, is-real can have them since they are their mirrored sub-human side. Free shipping!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWs6hSdv7CQ
Unite The Many, defeat the few.

Revolution is for the love of your people, culture, knowledge, wisdom, spirit, and peace. Not Greed!
Soul Rebel Native Son


http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=277...enous&hl=en
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07-24-2014, 10:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2014, 11:31 PM by JFK.)
#52
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 02:27 PM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 01:04 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:44 AM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:12 AM)JFK Wrote: Oh silly me, I thought Hamas tunnels were the target... Not the beach, which BTW is not "urban".

Thinking
Or is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean ? Icon_rolleyes

You are just being an ignorant. Clap
The operation is not just tunnels anyway I'm not going to argue I know who I'm dealing with.

You say that it's O.K that Hamas tunneled into Israel ,had tens of tunnels ready for a calling day ,ready to slaughter hundreds of Jews and kidnapping 'em?

You know that the other day Hamas rocket killed Thai worker at an open filed near Gaza ?
Please show me exactly where I said that.
If you are unable, I shall assume you are just another useless troll.

You didn't say that.
how is "is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean" relevant?

Hamas terror zones are everywhere, they fire to Israeli towns from each available space in Gaza, have rockets, missile launchers and ammunition all over the place.
What else would Israel be targeting with their highly advanced weaponry which WE sold them when those children on the beach got whacked ?

You don't have to answer because I already know that in some convoluted way you will blame the children.

If Hamas is the problem, then Israel should put boots on the ground and sweep the Gaza strip from one end to the other instead of being the cowards that they are....
Like targeting that UN controlled hospital today. What did that get them ?

Edit to add : sorry, not a hospital, it was a UN controlled school.
http://www.bnd.com/2014/07/24/3317433/israel-strikes-un-facility-in.html
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07-24-2014, 11:38 PM,
#53
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 10:38 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 02:27 PM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 01:04 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:44 AM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:12 AM)JFK Wrote: Oh silly me, I thought Hamas tunnels were the target... Not the beach, which BTW is not "urban".

Thinking
Or is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean ? Icon_rolleyes

You are just being an ignorant. Clap
The operation is not just tunnels anyway I'm not going to argue I know who I'm dealing with.

You say that it's O.K that Hamas tunneled into Israel ,had tens of tunnels ready for a calling day ,ready to slaughter hundreds of Jews and kidnapping 'em?

You know that the other day Hamas rocket killed Thai worker at an open filed near Gaza ?
Please show me exactly where I said that.
If you are unable, I shall assume you are just another useless troll.

You didn't say that.
how is "is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean" relevant?

Hamas terror zones are everywhere, they fire to Israeli towns from each available space in Gaza, have rockets, missile launchers and ammunition all over the place.
What else would Israel be targeting with their highly advanced weaponry which WE sold them when those children on the beach got whacked ?

You don't have to answer because I already know that in some convoluted way you will blame the children.

If Hamas is the problem, then Israel should put boots on the ground and sweep the Gaza strip from one end to the other instead of being the cowards that they are....
Like targeting that UN controlled hospital today. What did that get them ?

one UNRWA Gaza school turned into a shelter has also been shelled today. 15 deaths at least, most of them children.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/24/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FT06I20140724

Hamas fired rockets from there, "The IDF responded by targeting the source of the fire.."
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/24/hamas/

Simple procedure..

Any comments on this, newsthet?
One of the first duties of the physician is to educate the masses not to take medicine...
William Osler
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07-25-2014, 01:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-25-2014, 04:43 AM by rockingtheboat.)
#54
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
@ newsthet : Shalom. Personally I am a Muslim and I am brought to interact with a lot of different people from all over the world. Believe me when I say there are many times (actually, most of the time these days !!!) when I would choose a Jewish person from Israel or locally over any Muslim or Arab in a 50 miles radius.

That said, IMHO, being a nice and loving person is not enough. To complete the whole thing, one has to have the courage to shed the indoctrination of one's upbringing, one has to get rid of that group-think reflex and desire to belong to a herd.

Reading what you wrote (fight for survival...etc), you don't seem interested in letting go of any of that.

Unfortunately, the voices of reason among the Jewish people (they threw in the garbage their group indoctrination) are labeled 'Self-Hating Jews' by the faction you chose to align yourself with - intellectually - at this point.

Your situation is not unique. Most people of all kinds hear only what they want to hear and disregard the rest.


EDIT : As a side note, ordinary naive jewish persons, they look around, they see several individuals of alleged "jewish confession" in very high positions of political and corporate power, so they want to be on the bandwagon of those they perceive as "winners". Little do they know, those "winners" will be the first ones to push the ordinary jew under the bus when it suits their sick businesses and sick ambitions.

The house-Negro always identifies with the master more than the master identifies with himself.

Here are a few resources relating to the subject at hand, in case a Jew stumbling on this post decide to start undoing his/her indoctrination (all by Jewish authors/speakers) :

"Overcoming Zionism" with Joel Kovel :

http://archives.kpfa.org/data/20140528-Wed1300.mp3

Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0745308198/ref=mp_s_a_1_2

The Invention of the Jewish People :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1844676234/ref=mp_s_a_1_6

Those Jews that I refer to as 'the voices of reason among the Jewish people', are the ones who refuse to stain their god-given humanity in exchange for a man-made plastic-cheap certificate that says "Mazel Tov : You are officially a member of our herd".
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07-25-2014, 02:50 AM,
#55
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
couldn't resist..... and for what it's worth... a jew sent this to me.

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07-25-2014, 06:00 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-25-2014, 06:01 AM by bristopen.)
#56
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
That is a fake..

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One of the first duties of the physician is to educate the masses not to take medicine...
William Osler
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07-25-2014, 06:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-07-2014, 03:09 PM by rockingtheboat.)
#57
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV8mb0NefW0



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07-25-2014, 06:57 AM,
#58
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-25-2014, 06:00 AM)bristopen Wrote: That is a fake..

I thought the sarcastic/in jest/spoof content was obvious... I guess you didn't.
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07-25-2014, 10:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-25-2014, 11:44 AM by newsthet.)
#59
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-24-2014, 07:18 PM)Watchdog Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 05:31 PM)newsthet Wrote: I'm from Israel...

...you got the traumas wrong, all Israel and Jewish traumas make us united leave differences aside at time of need and be together to fight for our lives....

....

Watchdog have you ever been to Israel?


Did you take the time to read this: http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/israel-is-outgassing-its-unhealed-trauma/

???

You'll notice that the author is Jewish. Just read it and then tell me how wrong we are (him and my overstanding).

No I've never been to Israel.

I haven't read it all yet, but so far he is wrong, when I'll read everything I'll give my answer to that article. There are a lot of Jewish people that think that talking is the only solution for everything and can't accept reality to what it is. Can you really say that Hamas did everything with the aid he got to help it's people ?

* how come Hamas and "Palestinian" leaders are milliners (Ismail Haniyeh born and raised in Gaza) and some billionaires (Khaled Mashaal) ?
* Do you know for a fact that Hamas uses its humanitarian aid to build rockets (like fertilizers and such) ?
* Did they try doing something with the cement aid?

Sometimes I see people that come to Israel for the first time going out with the feeling that got the situation wrong.

(07-24-2014, 11:38 PM)bristopen Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 10:38 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 02:27 PM)newsthet Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 01:04 PM)JFK Wrote:
(07-24-2014, 11:44 AM)newsthet Wrote: You are just being an ignorant. Clap
The operation is not just tunnels anyway I'm not going to argue I know who I'm dealing with.

You say that it's O.K that Hamas tunneled into Israel ,had tens of tunnels ready for a calling day ,ready to slaughter hundreds of Jews and kidnapping 'em?

You know that the other day Hamas rocket killed Thai worker at an open filed near Gaza ?
Please show me exactly where I said that.
If you are unable, I shall assume you are just another useless troll.

You didn't say that.
how is "is Hamas now tunneling under the Mediterranean" relevant?

Hamas terror zones are everywhere, they fire to Israeli towns from each available space in Gaza, have rockets, missile launchers and ammunition all over the place.
What else would Israel be targeting with their highly advanced weaponry which WE sold them when those children on the beach got whacked ?

You don't have to answer because I already know that in some convoluted way you will blame the children.

If Hamas is the problem, then Israel should put boots on the ground and sweep the Gaza strip from one end to the other instead of being the cowards that they are....
Like targeting that UN controlled hospital today. What did that get them ?

one UNRWA Gaza school turned into a shelter has also been shelled today. 15 deaths at least, most of them children.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/24/us-mideast-gaza-idUSKBN0FT06I20140724

Hamas fired rockets from there, "The IDF responded by targeting the source of the fire.."
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/24/hamas/

Simple procedure..

Any comments on this, newsthet?

You don't have to answer because I already know that in some convoluted way you will blame the children.

I'm not blaming the children I blame their parents that send them to play when there's a war outside.

If Hamas is the problem, then Israel should put boots on the ground and sweep the Gaza strip from one end to the other instead of being the cowards that they are....
Like targeting that UN controlled hospital today. What did that get them ?


lets leave aside "If Hamas is the problem".
I just hope you start to see the big picture in urban war, Israel can make Gaza strip a pile of dust in one night.
But, Israel did put boots on ground and sweeping Gaza there are currently 32 soldiers dead and more than handed wounded. Hamas are cowards that hide within civilians, tunnels and hide its rocket within civilian areas.

lets go to a did you know section: http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/17/unrwa-discovers-20-rockets-hidden-in-gaza-school-claims-incident-was-first-of-of-its-kind-in-gaza/
UNWRA found 20 rockets in its compound, for the first time someone there tried to to the good thing to tell the truth about the Hamas civilian human shield, there a BUT they returned the rockets to Hamas.

Comments about IDF shooting a UNWRA because of rocket fires from there, Well that's sad that Hamas shoots from there, but If you listen to the voices from Gaza and Videos they don't shoot before letting the civilians around know about it and evacuate, a thing that the English and U.S army never do.

(07-25-2014, 01:06 AM)rockingtheboat Wrote: @ newsthet : Shalom. Personally I am a Muslim and I am brought to interact with a lot of different people from all over the world. Believe me when I say there are many times (actually, most of the time these days !!!) when I would choose a Jewish person from Israel or locally over any Muslim or Arab in a 50 miles radius.

That said, IMHO, being a nice and loving person is not enough. To complete the whole thing, one has to have the courage to shed the indoctrination of one's upbringing, one has to get rid of that group-think reflex and desire to belong to a herd.

Reading what you wrote (fight for survival...etc), you don't seem interested in letting go of any of that.

Unfortunately, the voices of reason among the Jewish people (they threw in the garbage their group indoctrination) are labeled 'Self-Hating Jews' by the faction you chose to align yourself with - intellectually - at this point.

Your situation is not unique. Most people of all kinds hear only what they want to hear and disregard the rest.


EDIT : As a side note, ordinary naive jewish persons, they look around, they see several individuals of alleged "jewish confession" in very high positions of political and corporate power, so they want to be on the bandwagon of those they perceive as "winners". Little do they know, those "winners" will be the first ones to push the ordinary jew under the bus when it suits their sick businesses and sick ambitions.

The house-Negro always identifies with the master more than the master identifies with himself.

Here are a few resources relating to the subject at hand, in case a Jew stumbling on this post decide to start undoing his/her indoctrination (all by Jewish authors/speakers) :

"Overcoming Zionism" with Joel Kovel :

http://archives.kpfa.org/data/20140528-Wed1300.mp3

Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0745308198/ref=mp_s_a_1_2

The Invention of the Jewish People :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1844676234/ref=mp_s_a_1_6

Those Jews that I refer to as 'the voices of reason among the Jewish people', are the ones who refuse to stain their god-given humanity in exchange for a man-made plastic-cheap certificate that says "Mazel Tov : You are officially a member of our herd".


It's good to hear your first words, I had Arab room mates at my University and we managed just fine.

about :
Quote:Reading what you wrote (fight for survival...etc), you don't seem interested in letting go of any of that.

The situation is way more simple than you describe, the answer about the EDIT section everyone here and the rest of the world knows that there are bad guys there's nothing you can do and people here are not blind to that corruption.

Do you really believe that once Israel gives it's weapons and open its boarders no one will be slaughtered ? (hint Syria and ISS)

can you find me voices of reason within the Hamas ranks?
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07-25-2014, 04:47 PM,
#60
RE: Gaza Death Toll Passes 200, Israel Steps Up Military Offensive
(07-25-2014, 10:56 AM)newsthet Wrote: You don't have to answer because I already know that in some convoluted way you will blame the children.

I'm not blaming the children I blame their parents that send them to play when there's a war outside.

With Israel dropping bombs indiscriminatingly, Exactly what difference does it make whether those children were inside or outside ?

Hell, Israel bombed that school which was under UN control. Those people were inside and look at what good it did them. You would actually think that children would be safer on the beach... UNLESS they were specifically targeted.
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