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Electric Universe
01-25-2014, 02:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-25-2014, 02:36 AM by Watchdog.)
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Electric Universe
Ok.

I'll start this thread.

So... as most of us we all know that gravity is the crux of how our universe works.

We also know that the sun is a ball of energy based on fusion of hydrogen.

Cosmology is scripted and based on math.

But... what if all this was wrong?

What if math was not the proper method of inquiry and that we should rely on observations (and other forms of knowledge generation)?

What if gravity was not the most important force and explanation of how the universe works?

What about electricity?

Let's discuss this.

I'm not going to expose all my reflections on this topic, what I intend to do is start a new forum discussion thread.

Ok.

I have a few insights, but I'll wait to see what comes from this discussion.

Please post all vids, podcasts, and comment here!!!

I guess I should start by putting forth some links:


http://podgallery.org/thunderbolts-project-podcast/

http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/
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01-25-2014, 04:58 AM,
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RE: Electric Universe
Also check out https://www.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject as this contains a significant number of their videos including conference talks and news about electric universe cosmology. There's also stuff about astrotheology if I'm not mistaken. (There's a lot of data, so it's tough to keep it all in my head.)

There was a note in at least a couple videos suggesting that gravity is based on a long-range electrical attraction between atoms.

I am not an electrical engineer, so I would have no end of problems understanding the math. But I do enjoy the brain teasers.

Starting this thread was a fine idea. I'm looking forward to more discussion about this particular topic.
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01-25-2014, 03:07 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
The interesting thing about E.U. theory is the intense hatred you will receive if you mention it to science nerds who worship the physicists fed to them by the Science Channel.

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They can be vicious little buggers.
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01-25-2014, 04:51 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
(01-25-2014, 03:07 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: The interesting thing about E.U. theory is the intense hatred you will receive if you mention it to science nerds who worship the physicists fed to them by the Science Channel.

They can be vicious little buggers.

lol, yr fellow conceners should be used to that, do anything 'outside the box' (especially thinking) and your friends and loved-ones (who are now just concerned for your well being, you should be normal) will be all over you

i visit thunderbolts pic o' the day and astronomy p.o.d. every day, where t/pod constantly berates a/pod (NASA) for it's inability to accept the new evidence brought to our eyes by the new space/improved earthbound telescopes. seems they both have an agenda ...

yes yes, we need to open our eyes and have a good look at this Blush
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01-25-2014, 07:59 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
I find the wonderful thing about the Electric Universe theory is that it makes sense and is consistent with itself. The Standard Model and Theory of Relativity don't make sense and there are different rules for different size scales. They have never really worked in my eyes as valid models of how things are and got to be as they are.

I have definitely encountered that religious resistance to change in my brother who is doing his doctoral work in theoretical physics at Texas A&M. I showed him one presentation in that the presenter went through the relativity calculations and showed that it involved an operation of dividing by zero. This cannot be done and therefore relegates the Theory of Relativity to the junk heap. He wouldn't even look at the info himself. He just looked around online for someone to "debunk" the info. He said the debunker was one of the MOST RESPECTED PHYSICISTS around. I said that is an appeal to authority and is a logical fallacy and asked why he didn't look at it himself. No response. It's pretty sad when someone that is going to school to be a deep thinker won't even attempt to think for themselves.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

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01-25-2014, 08:21 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
(01-25-2014, 07:59 PM)Easy Skanking Wrote: ...dividing by zero. This cannot be done and therefore relegates the Theory of Relativity to the junk heap.

Interesting. I'm completely ignorant of high math. When you say "dividing by zero" cannot be done, that would seem to me incontrovertible proof something is wrong.

I do not understand how a person doing doctoral level math could ignore that.

Is there some special, exotic way a math person can circumvent the ( x / 0 ) thing?
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01-25-2014, 08:39 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
(01-25-2014, 08:21 PM)CharliePrime Wrote:
(01-25-2014, 07:59 PM)Easy Skanking Wrote: ...dividing by zero. This cannot be done and therefore relegates the Theory of Relativity to the junk heap.

Interesting. I'm completely ignorant of high math. When you say "dividing by zero" cannot be done, that would seem to me incontrovertible proof something is wrong.

Absolutely.

In case of interest, the presentation is "Stephen J. Crothers on Non-existence of Black Holes,The Failure of General Relativity".

(01-25-2014, 08:21 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: I do not understand how a person doing doctoral level math could ignore that.

The brainwashing and dogma that has perverted the field of science is just as insidious as that of any other religion. Neither actually encourage thinking for yourself. If you are to think, it must be within the previously defined boundaries, i.e. those of General Relativity and Special Relativity.

(01-25-2014, 08:21 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: Is there some special, exotic way a math person can circumvent the ( x / 0 ) thing?

Nope. You can't divide something by nothing. If someone claims that this is a valid mathematical expression, see my signature for Tesla's quote. Wink
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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01-25-2014, 09:22 PM,
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RE: Electric Universe
(01-25-2014, 07:59 PM)Easy Skanking Wrote: it involved an operation of dividing by zero. This cannot be done
Sure it could... Back In the 90's anyway.
The answer was always "computer crash". :lol:
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01-28-2014, 03:52 AM,
#9
RE: Electric Universe
David Talbott of Thunderbolts.info will be live on the Ground Zero Radio Show tonight. Show starts in 15 minutes and can be listened to here.

If you miss the live show, you can always catch up at a later date here. Popcorn
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