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Exercise
12-11-2013, 03:27 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2013, 04:27 AM by R.R.)
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Exercise
I'm noticing there's a fair few threads that pop up every so often regarding diet and lifestyle and the general consensus I'm getting is that a few of you guys seem to be carrying a few extra pounds!

So I thought I'd share some of my personal developments over the years and my experiences. As per usual looking for help in these areas leads to all kinds of conflicting advice so the best I can do is share what works for me and hopefully others will too.

The following pictures are of myself roughly taken 11 months apart from December 2010 to November 2011. At the moment I am in the middle of the second and third picture but plan on getting back to my best and even surpassing that by the summer.

I had to work my ass off to get there and shed close to 15kg or just over 30lbs. I was in similar shape prior to the November 2011 picture but didn't take any prior to that.

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In terms of activity I was working in a regular fitness gym and played some football/soccer. Not driving so was doing plenty of walking and I also took classes in Thai-Boxing, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and olympic freestyle wrestling. I was extremely active in those days, pretty much exercising every day.

Food wise I had plenty of organic chicken breasts, tuna, protein shakes, raw eggs, lean beef, oats and vegetables supplementing with creatine. I drank distilled water and green tea and rarely drank alcohol which I loved doing most days of the week for years - mainly super strength beers and whiskey.

Life takes you in strange places and education became my focus so I wasn't as active but now I have the means to dedicate myself to returning to tip top condition so why not document how its going here?

Any questions ask away guys. Keeping yourself healthy should be fundamental to what we've learnt here and I'm actually quite surprised there aren't many threads like this on here.
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12-11-2013, 01:22 PM,
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RE: Exercise
Did you quit BJJ?
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12-11-2013, 03:09 PM,
#3
RE: Exercise
I've never understood the fascination with having rippling muscles. Fat's use as a nutrient ballast should perhaps not be scorned too heavily by those who do.
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12-11-2013, 07:58 PM,
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RE: Exercise
(12-11-2013, 03:27 AM)R.R Wrote: Keeping yourself healthy should be fundamental to what we've learnt here and I'm actually quite surprised there aren't many threads like this on here.

Oh there are a few. Here's a decent one that comes to mind...

Great job R.R.
I highly respect your dedication to controlling your body. Being fit and in shape feels fantastic.

I was doing the splits at the age of 3, and figured out how to do cartwheels by the age of 5. I started taking gymnastics classes at the age of 7 and went on to compete for 6 or 7 years through junior high and high school. Throughout high school, I was ripped !! I had 12 % body fat, and almost an 8 pack. I weighed 101 lbs and was 5' 3.5''. I broke a school record (for girls) of being able to bench press 55 lbs more then what I weighed. (it was a big deal for me at the time.) After graduating and starting college…. I got certified for personal training. I worked at 2 gyms downtown chicago, and part time at a GNC, ( general nutrition center.)

It's been ten years since I set foot inside a gym or a GNC. There was a PDF on the tracker called "You are your own gym," which has been exactly my method for the last decade. My current exercise regimen consists of walking my dog in the morning, and an hour of being my own gym about an hour after I eat dinner. That's it. "Being my own gym" mostly consists of dozens of different repetitious leg, upper and lower torso, and arm exercises…. followed up by heavy stretching.

I'm 31 years old… and I still fit in the same size jeans I wore in high school… which is a zero. I'm definitely not as focused or obsessed with fitness in the way that I was before… yet some of my views or desires have changed along the years. I was striving for decreasing my body fat then…. now I kinda like having a little. I don't want to be ripped… just toned and flexible…. so maintaining being toned and flexible is my only pursuit. I weigh 123 currently… and I'm the same height. When ever I feel a little pudgy…. I buckle down on what I'm eating, or not eating for a couple days, and increase my regimen, and that's all it seems to take. I no longer have an 8 pack, but always a 2 pack, and a 4 pack after working out…. and as long as my stomach is flat, I don't freak out. The top photos are from 2000, the bottom photos are 2011, and 2012….

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What matters the most about trying to get in shape, is how much you want it…….. from what I've observed. You're either willing to change your habits…. or your not. I've helped lots of people drop pounds, gain muscle mass, or get toned… but it was their will that mattered, and if you don't have the will…. your not going to find the way… from being chubby to overcoming short hamstrings… it's all up to you, and how badly you want it.
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12-11-2013, 08:24 PM,
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RE: Exercise
OMG APRIL IS A HOTTIE.

This is a serious problem. Attractive women are not allowed on weirdo conspiracy web forums.

I expect immediate and judicious action by the Admins on this outrageous breach of protocol.
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12-11-2013, 09:08 PM,
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RE: Exercise
Signs001

Admin, please abstain.
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12-12-2013, 12:23 AM,
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RE: Exercise
(12-11-2013, 08:24 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: OMG APRIL IS A HOTTIE.

This is a serious problem. Attractive women are not allowed on weirdo conspiracy web forums.

I expect immediate and judicious action by the Admins on this outrageous breach of protocol.

We knew this but made an exception because she is a skilled artist. We try not to hold it against her.
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12-12-2013, 01:26 AM,
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RE: Exercise
Condrats R.R!!!

My weight loss was mostly about changing my lifestyle (approx 60 pounds in 5 months). First two months and half was veggies (half raw) and nuts (lots of w*eed, but no beers and fast food), then the rest was no w*eed, but plenty of organic pastured raised beef, pork and eggs. No soy, very little GMO (could not avoid them all), and mostly saturated fat. All the protein was taken with lots of fat!

The exercise was WORKING ON ORGANIC/BIODYNAMIC FARMS, nothing else.

I'm not done yet, as I still have 20 pounds left. Note: because of the protein and fat at the second part, and the farm work I did build some muscles. Hmmm... I wish I had the energy to do push ups, sits ups, and other, but I'm totally spent at the end of the day. We'll see, perhaps the next phase will be beefing up... hehehe
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12-12-2013, 01:59 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-12-2013, 02:05 AM by mexika.)
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It gives people hope. Just looking for cuts, not looking to be like mighty mouse. Something like Snake eyes... how long should it take me? on year, 6 months...
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12-12-2013, 03:07 AM,
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(12-12-2013, 01:59 AM)mexika Wrote: It gives people hope. Just looking for cuts, not looking to be like mighty mouse. Something like Snake eyes... how long should it take me? on year, 6 months...

It will take you the time it takes to change your lifestyle! You know that one that does not make you look like you want to?

hehehehe

I know this sounds strange, but that is why diets don't really work, why the ab-cruncher people buy on tv at 3:33 am on the phone (look I just used the sacred geometry thingy) ... LOL

So, what part of your life needs to change, and why have you not changed it? How strong is your will?
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12-12-2013, 07:25 AM,
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RE: Exercise
Will, intent, motivation... all break down to the reasons one has for changing their mindset, and the reasons one has for retaining the current paradigm. Sometimes it takes some destruction of the latter to give the former a bit of muscle.
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

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- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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12-12-2013, 10:14 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-12-2013, 10:14 AM by pax681.)
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RE: Exercise
wait.... correct diet and exercise you say....
... so my theory that i have been testing on masturbation being good a anaerobic workout and learning to do it using both hands(well you have to balance it eh?) isn't going to work?
fuck... back to the drawing board Tongue
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12-12-2013, 11:11 AM,
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RE: Exercise
On a serious note, I suffer a lot of arthritis pain from too much exercise when I was in my twenties and thirties.

My joints are wrecked from long-term repetitive stresses.

It's like smoking cigarettes. The benefits are immediate. The damage doesn't become evident until years later, when it's too late.

AVOID!

You want to traverse life via the middle way, moderation.

Not too much la la pillow sitting like a Tibetan monk. Not too much hard physical, sex and money like a gansta. The Middle Way is best.
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12-23-2013, 02:45 AM,
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RE: Exercise
@CharliePrime: Yeah I quit BJJ but the university I go to has many sports societies which I'm planning on joining in the new year. They include Aikido, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Tae-Kwon-Do and Capoeira. I have no idea as to the quality of the teaching though, I'm not holding my breath but if I can stay fit and learn a few useful moves I'll be happy.

@thokling: Rippling muscles are a bit of an ego boost but that's not a bad thing and in my opinion due to the hardwork it takes to achieve it is an excellent source of legitimate confidence and internal well being. I've been both heavy and in-shape and quality of life experienced is like night and day. First of all you have more energy. I played a lot of football/soccer as a teenager, grew a fondness for beer, piled on the weight and hated that I couldn't enjoy football anymore. I also became more lazy as a consequence. Getting back in shape I noticed the difference in how people treated me. More respect from men, more attention from women. Its win-win as far as I'm concerned.

As for fat, I have no issue with it. Whole eggs are a staple in my diet as is olive oil. Fats/cholesterol are key from a hormonal/endocrine view - the right fats anyway. Modern conspiracy research shows how males are not as fertile as they were in previous decades. We are also seeing increased feminisation of males. Put a large chunk of that down to testosterone and how modern diets and lifestyles are destroying the hormone that makes men men. Its a large scale biological modification of the modern male and helps create the compliance societal rulers require.

@April: You are an extremely rare woman indeed. I do not know any woman with an interest in conspiracy related topics combined with a mentality of looking after themselves. The closest I have met were usually liberal or new age type vegetarian/vegans and I doubt they will look healthy in a few years. As for the liberal viewpoints its almost always establishment approved ideas where socialism/feminism etc merge as one whole philosophy which they tend be very attached to.

@Watchdog: Great stuff, keep it up!

@mexica: It depends on how you look at the moment. But cuts can be accelerated by carb cycling and non-carb days especially. Cutting out carbs in the evenings makes a big difference to me. I might wake up with flat muscles but they'll pump right back up with a high carb breakfast. Keep your protein high and you could even try intermittant fasting.

As for training, from experience being active most days of the week works best for me in terms of staying cut. Sports, weights, martial arts, kettlebells, bodyweight exercises and various programs are what does the trick. There is no one size fits all so and I find a lot of it is trial and error so have fun learning and trying different methods.

Heavy weights and strength training I find have little impact visually but the gains you make allow you to get more out of your other workouts so I would periodically include strength training where you're concentrating on increasing how much you can lift. Use compound exercise in this phase. 5x5 workouts are awesome for this.

When not strength training, go for more all-over body workouts.

Keep an eye on your waist size and weight. Look into proportions based on your height to have an understanding of your ideals eg waist height ratio, waist hip ratio, waist chest/shoulder ratio and you'll start gaining an understanding of what you need to hit. Bodyfat percentage needs to be low for those cuts to show though but again your waist provides a reasonable measure as to what those levels are - but your biggest helper is the mirror.

@pax: You must have forearms like pop-eye!
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12-23-2013, 05:10 PM,
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Nice work R.R. Great way to be persistent and follow through.
btw, kettle bells are my new favorite tool. You can get some real good full body workouts with those things.
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