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The Sandy Hook Report
03-19-2014, 05:02 PM,
#31
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
Tracy begins to sour on Halbig

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/19/wolfgangs-bad-company/

Quote:Those in the 9/11 Truth movement are well aware of the “cognitive infiltrators” who are only too happy to harness a loose cannon or two that will sabotage or otherwise hinder the genuine remedy of collective intelligence.

I am aware that at least one of the parties who misinformed me is now operating as Wofgang Halbig’s handler.
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03-19-2014, 05:47 PM,
#32
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
(03-19-2014, 05:02 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: Tracy begins to sour on Halbig

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/19/wolfgangs-bad-company/

Quote:Those in the 9/11 Truth movement are well aware of the “cognitive infiltrators” who are only too happy to harness a loose cannon or two that will sabotage or otherwise hinder the genuine remedy of collective intelligence.

I am aware that at least one of the parties who misinformed me is now operating as Wofgang Halbig’s handler.

Any idea who he's claiming is Halbig's handler?
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03-19-2014, 06:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-19-2014, 06:10 PM by CharliePrime.)
#33
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
Tracy was mum about that. A diligent researcher could probably dig it out by searching Tracy's old posts and connecting the dots around who is behind Halbig's new media campaign via IP addresses and connections to other, similar media campaigns.

Halbig is blowing up Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SandyHookJustice

He has a campaign fund: http://www.gofundme.com/7jb3ww

I wouldn't spend time on it because it will eventually come out in good time.

Halbig is a doofus. He's not smart enough to work this thing himself. I doubt it's a hands-on government agency operation. It's probably just some slick profiteer who has experience contracting with intel agencies for disinfo campaigns and sees an opportunity to use Halbig to earn a few thousand before throwing him away.
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03-20-2014, 08:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014, 12:40 AM by capnchronic.)
#34
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
(03-19-2014, 06:08 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: Tracy was mum about that. A diligent researcher could probably dig it out by searching Tracy's old posts and connecting the dots around who is behind Halbig's new media campaign via IP addresses and connections to other, similar media campaigns.

I found this in the comments on Jack Blood's website, it seems like Tracy was referring to Fetzer.

Quote:After first being sucked in by Wolfgang’s touted “credentials”, the most respected of the Sandy Hook Truth community are running from Wolfie like he’s on fire… he is a Johnny Come Lately, promoted by, and apparently “Handled” by, a known movement wrecker by the name of Jim Fetzer.

Fetzer is a perennial JFK Assassination liar, who styles himself as an expert in the topic, yet he ignores all the best evidence… like the US Navy’s ONI was all over it, from the start, to the autopsy… but Fetzer is “ex” Navy, so I guess he refuses to expose his criminal brothers.

Read James Tracy’s article below… he’s describing an organization created by Fetzer, sandyhookinvestigation.com, which tried to establish itself to take over the movement, and they used Tracy’s name without his permission… and I won’t even mention the INCORRECT fancy colored Sandy Hook Floor Plan map that they produced, yes INCORRECT
http://deadlinelive.info/2014/03/18/sandy-hook-is-wolfgang-halbig-a-fraud/#comment-463567

And for anyone interested, this was the video on Jack Blood's site.

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03-21-2014, 11:40 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-21-2014, 11:44 AM by CharliePrime.)
#35
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
This is so cool. Internet conspiracy research is the wild wild west. Right here with Sandyhook we see a microcosm of the beauty of anarchy in action.

No regulation. No top-down imposed babysitting. Every person is responsible for discerning truth from B.S. Fraudsters arise, but are swatted down by researchers who compete to provide the best, most accurate reporting and analysis. The wheat is separated from the chaff in the merciless crucible of open competition.

The last couple of years Jack Blood's credentials were going to waste, but he seems to be getting back in the game. I'm adding his RSS feed http://deadlinelive.info/feed/ back into my Feedly stream. If he stays hard and productive, I'll start promoting him again.
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03-21-2014, 02:00 PM,
#36
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
(03-21-2014, 11:40 AM)CharliePrime Wrote: This is so cool. Internet conspiracy research is the wild wild west. Right here with Sandyhook we see a microcosm of the beauty of anarchy in action.

No regulation. No top-down imposed babysitting. Every person is responsible for discerning truth from B.S. Fraudsters arise, but are swatted down by researchers who compete to provide the best, most accurate reporting and analysis. The wheat is separated from the chaff in the merciless crucible of open competition.

A problem with this is that, IMO, far too many people do not bother to check things out/verify for themselves, but merely latch onto whatever research or conclusion strikes their fancy, stop there, and then proceed to spread that particular viewpoint as the correct one, the only correct one.

An overly obvious example would be that guy who claims that most everyone in most every scenario is an actor, that JB and Clyde Lewis are the same person, etc. Also see the No-Planes crowd. Examples abound.

No, I'm not advocating gatekeepers, just pointing out one of the side effects that widespread info-access and self-publication has produced. For every genuine, determined, apparently accurate researcher, there are 5 or 10 or 100 who are totally full of shit, and 1000 who will follow no matter what.

I don't see a solution to that problem outside of rigorous examination of everything and a cultivated ability to discriminate between (more likely) truth and bullshit.

These days I often wonder if it would even be possible to reach a consensus on, say, Sandy Hook, as one example. So many competing theories and so little real evidence to back up any of them.
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03-21-2014, 02:28 PM,
#37
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
Temp, what you describe is called Moral Hazard.

I suffered this last night while visiting one of my old hippie friends. He rode with the "Freedom Riders" in the 60's in the South, has a Master's degree from Notre Dame, and is as dumb as a rock about how the world really works because he thinks Amy Goodman and NPR are "alternative news" and socialism would work if we just did it right.

50 years of MSM conditioning and babysitting have destroyed his capacity for critical thinking. We got to talking about LBJ. I remarked how the CIA runs Al Qaeda, and he threw a fit and we got into a big fight. "You and your damn internet conspiracy theories!"

I view conspiracy idiocy the same as my old hippie friend. MSM coddling and babysitting have destroyed the capacity of many people to discern B.S. They swallow without sniffing. They buy without reviewing reputation. Like children who never had to fight a bully or avoid traffic to stay alive, they are crippled.
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03-22-2014, 03:25 PM,
#38
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
the only reason fema and psy op operators can get away with this sort of crime is because they control the investigative process from the bottom all the way to the top levels. If there was no government investigative organisations and only private investigators they would easily point out to a free media that the event does not look genuine.
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03-31-2014, 02:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-31-2014, 03:39 PM by capnchronic.)
#39
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
For anyone interested, Deanna Spingola did another show on Sandy Hook, this time with Keith Johnson from the AFP, and "Wade" who runs SandyHookFacts.com. Personally I'm really tired of the whole thing, but it should be a good listen.

http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/z6flgi8a64/Spingola.Speaks.2014.03.30.Wade.and.Keith.Johnson.mp3
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04-03-2014, 04:03 AM,
#40
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
Probably the most polite and well reasoned thread I have read on this topic. Thanks for the fine exchange gentlemen. I support Deanna's views at this point however.
Yo
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04-03-2014, 04:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-03-2014, 04:55 AM by CharliePrime.)
#41
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
Thanks Captain. I gave the Spingola/Johnson audio a listen, but got bored of it about half-way through.

Like you, I've grown weary of Sandy Hook. In the coming years information may come out showing Lanza was a patsy, or there was a second shooter, but until then, there is no sense hashing through the minutia which really doesn't matter anymore.

I do thank the researchers who put the time in on it.
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04-07-2014, 10:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-07-2014, 11:17 PM by temp9.)
#42
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
If anyone is interested...

Quote:AFP RADIO: Live Debate — CW Wade vs. Wolfgang Halbig

On Monday, April 7, 2014, at 8 p.m. ET, Dave Gahary moderates a debate between CW Wade and Wolfgang Halbig.

​For two hours, CW Wade takes on Wolfgang Halbig’s “SIXTEEN QUESTIONS THAT DEMAND THE TRUTH,” as it relates to the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event of December 14, 2012

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16408


ETA: If someone can record this it might be fun listening.
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04-08-2014, 09:41 PM,
#43
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
(04-07-2014, 10:22 PM)temp9 Wrote: If anyone is interested...

Quote:AFP RADIO: Live Debate — CW Wade vs. Wolfgang Halbig

On Monday, April 7, 2014, at 8 p.m. ET, Dave Gahary moderates a debate between CW Wade and Wolfgang Halbig.

​For two hours, CW Wade takes on Wolfgang Halbig’s “SIXTEEN QUESTIONS THAT DEMAND THE TRUTH,” as it relates to the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event of December 14, 2012

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16408


ETA: If someone can record this it might be fun listening.

Looks like you beat me to the punch... was just about to upload it when.... poof, there it is...
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05-01-2014, 07:00 PM,
#44
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
FBI Releases Heavily Blacked Out Sandy Hook Records

Quote:The FBI has released about 175 pages of heavily blacked-out documents from the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre investigation.

Of the 175 pages released in response to a Courant Freedom of Information request, 64 were completely redacted and most of the other 111 pages were heavily redacted. The Courant submitted the request in January after state police released a report on the Dec. 14, 2012, shooting that left 20 first-graders and six women dead at the Newtown school.

The names of all witnesses interviewed by federal agents have been removed and there are no references to attempts by federal authorities in Washington, D.C., to recover information from a computer disk that shooter Adam Lanza destroyed.

Although the state police Western District Major Crime Squad was the lead group investigating the massacre, federal agents from the New Haven office were heavily involved.

Agents assisted in clearing the school, identifying the victims, canvassing the neighborhood where Lanza lived and interviewing relatives of his mother, Nancy Lanza, in New Hampshire. Nancy Lanza was shot to death in her bed by her son.

Federal agents in New Jersey interviewed Ryan Lanza, the shooter's older brother, who lived in Hoboken at the time. Authorities initially thought that Ryan Lanza was the shooter because Adam Lanza had an old identification card of his brother's on him.

The just-released FBI records include an interview, conducted the same day of the shootings, with a man who appears to be Ryan Lanza.

The interviewee told agents that Adam was "computer savvy" had worked briefly at a computer repair shop and that Nancy Lanza owned at least four guns — including the AR-15 used in the massacre — and a .45 caliber pistol.

The interviewee said all the guns were legally bought by Nancy Lanza, but "that Adam actually owned the AR-15, and that all the weapons were kept in a gun safe in Adam's bedroom closet." The person said that Adam Lanza had taken an NRA safety certification course that allowed him to fire the .45 caliber pistol at a Danbury shooting range, and that to his knowledge Adam Lanza was able to buy all his ammunition legally.

The person told agents that Adam Lanza had never been violent or used drugs or alcohol. The last line of the interview states the man "could provide no explanation or motive for Adam's actions."


Source

Can't wait to see this document.....
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06-18-2014, 08:00 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-18-2014, 08:01 AM by capnchronic.)
#45
RE: The Sandy Hook Report
The AFP's Keith Johnson recently released an interview with Lenny Pozner, whose son was killed at Sandy Hook. In it Pozner reveled something fairly surprising, that he was an Alex Jones fan, and that he went as far as to contact Jones and other Sandy Hook theorists.

Quote:“Haven’t we had our share of pain and suffering?” Lenny asked. “I used to enjoy listening to your shows prior to 12-14-12. Now I feel that your type of show created these hateful people and they need to be reeled in!”

Lenny said he received a prompt reply from Jones’s assistant, Aaron Dykes.

“He wrote and said that ‘Alex has no doubt that this was a real tragedy and sympathizes with the victims and their affected loved ones,’ ” Lenny said. “I also received an email from Paul Joseph Watson of [the website] ‘Prison Planet’ who said they had ‘actively distanced’ themselves from the ‘actors thing’ and believed it ‘was a very real tragedy with very real victims.’ ”

Lenny continued: “Although these replies sound sincere, Alex Jones has since had conspiracy theorists Wolfgang Halbig and Florida Professor James Tracy on his program. All of these people are cut from the same cloth. They’ve all been exploiting the Sandy Hook murders and continue to promote the theory that it was a hoax. They’re influencing the minds of gullible kids who basically need a way to cope with distressing events. So I sent emails out to all three. If they were real investigators looking for answers they would have contacted me.”

Lenny went on to say that none of the men replied to his emails. He did, however, contact Halbig through a third party, who reported back that Halbig did not wish to speak with him.

Jones has since gone on to promote the actor theories, he even mocked Robbie Parker a month or so ago during an interview with Wolfgang Halbig.
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