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Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
07-29-2013, 08:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-29-2013, 08:19 PM by charlieweird.)
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Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
Hey guys
There was a movie that was being circulated a while back (at least thats when I happened across it) that dealt with the topic of all the ancient religious/mystical symbolism and proposed how it all related to the astrological cycles ... more specifically the procession of the ages
Like for instance the Moses (ram image) related to the Zodiacal procession of ages era Aries, Jesus (the fisherman) related to the procession of the ages era of Pisces and now we are headed into Aquarius (water bearer) age..
It also related much of the shamanic tradition to mushroom cults I believe..
I never got to watch it in full and Id love to check it out now - but Ill be fucked if I can remember the name of it - Any help??
Cheers
and thanks in advance
Charliewired

I just happened across it the next few pages I went to, its called The Pharmacratic Inquisition...
so seeing as this question is now moot - mabye ppl can discuss their insights on this movie its message and what they thought of it..... agree>? or not>?
Cheers
Charliewired
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07-29-2013, 08:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-30-2013, 02:54 PM by JFK.)
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RE: Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
I believe that was the original Zeitgeist.

Edit to add - while portions are interesting, I do not endorse this movie.

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07-29-2013, 10:09 PM,
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RE: Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
Astrotheology has been covered in many presentations including the two mentioned. I think it holds much merit as a means of "religiously" remembering the greater cycles of time and preserving knowledge of potential hazard in those cycles that may have large impacts on humanity. The problem is that in religiously remembering the symbolic tales, people started taking them literally. It can be argued that this was done intentionally to gain control of an ignorant public. One way of the other, the resultant beliefs in the literal stories has resulted in much strife, bloodshed and consolidation of power to those that do not deserve it.
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07-29-2013, 11:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-29-2013, 11:12 PM by R.R.)
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RE: Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
Its been years since I've viewed Zietgeist or Jan Irvin's work but from what I've managed to piece together over the years is that astrotheology plays a huge role in a variety of things such as the origin of civilization, agriculture, priesthoods and their esoteric orders which subsequently moves you into the realm of rulership.

Astrotheology, in my opinion, was simply early 'science' or observing natural phenomena such as seasonal changes. This was of extreme importance in the development of agriculture as knowledge of the seasons allowed for more efficient farming. It also helped in the development of the calendar which essentially tracks the seasons. This also had an effect on the psyche as the concept of time now entered man's head and became another variable to be manipulated.

Any organised undertaking such as agriculture requires well, organisation, hence the next phase of overseers (the priests) who were in charge of administering early farming. They set up an internal 'police force' who kept watch over the workers. This 'police force' also doubled up as the army who would protect farms from predators, wild animals and other tribes while also waging war on hunter-gatherer bands and enslaving them to work the farms. They were paid with the produce of farming which the priests took the majority of leaving only sustenance levels of food for the workers.

The economy developed as the priesthood essentially became a leisurely class and they continued to develop 'science' and invented newer ways to improve crop yields and animal domestication. Surplus food was used as currency to pay for bigger armies, research new technologies and increasing specialist positions. Combined, these required the colonisation of new lands which put a further demand on 'progress' and 'advancement' - for example developing ships to cross the seas.

The religious aspect comes in because the people were essentially brainwashed by the priesthoods and put in a state of fear via the myths disseminated in those early religions. The priests were well aware what it meant when certain stars were visible at certain points of the year; it essentially meant an upcoming change in the seasons. This information was kept hidden from the public and the priests laid out stories of the gods being unhappy with the workers and winter was punishment. This allowed the priests, who acted as intermediaries between the people and the gods, to establish laws and rules over the people they ruled over in order to please the gods and bring back brighter days.

Thus science was encoded poetically in myths and the keys to their decipherment were within early esoteric orders which were slowly becoming a bureaucratic class. Hence early myths and gods were concerned with crops and rulership. Upon colonising other lands, the myths were altered slightly when given to new people (along with a new language) in order for them to not be able to communicate with workers of other lands if they happened to come across each other. The rulers or priesthoods of all these emerging city states sprang from the same source however, hence the similarity in those myths; it allowed easy recall by an ancient international priesthood.

The increase in surplus produce allowed for the emergence of a merchant class and this combination of priests, army, merchants and workers is essentially the Hindu caste system which can be found in slightly various forms across many ancient societies along with the concept of domesticated humans to function as citizens within a civilization.
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07-30-2013, 10:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-30-2013, 10:37 AM by Krise.)
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RE: Anyone remember the name of this Movie????
Quote:I never got to watch it in full and Id love to check it out now - but Ill be fucked if I can remember the name of it - Any help??
Quote:Jan Irvin's work

to give it a name: it is "Pharmacratic Inquisition" (Jan Irvin and Andrew Rutajit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suBqqpez_-I

whereby I almost prefer the first low budget presentation here, because it carries a lot more information:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5zGRzz_5YA

ah, ok, sorry, you found it already, recognised your edit too late :-)...
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