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02-09-2009, 08:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-09-2009, 09:00 PM by mothandrust.)
no, it was me who said it was racist. let me qualify.

the point being, at least as i understood it, the attitude condemned all Jews, rather than an ideology. this is patent ignorance, because as with all ideologies you will find both kind and selfish adherents. moreover, although i am not denying the basic precept of their ruling, or shepherding, the 'other' world, to isolate Judaism from the other sky-god religions is either ignorant or dishonest. read your Bible, read your Quran, read your history - they don't make a secret out of it - it's there for all to see - as is the the infection passed on to western enlightenment.

edit: and just as an aside mr. nietzscheansuperman, although Nietzsche hated Jews, what he disliked even more were Christians (and Germans).

Vitam Impendere Vero
02-09-2009, 09:11 PM,
He didn't really condemn non-religious jews..
02-09-2009, 09:27 PM,
Quote:Maybe the admins should just add "shit stirring occasionally delusional gimp" as a tag line under his avatar so people understand what sort of member is making the comments and thus not get all needlessly offended thinking he represents any kind of majority here.

Just a suggestion. :P

Good suggestion.
02-10-2009, 08:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2009, 08:09 AM by nietzscheansuperman.)
Mothandrust, I'm not going to spend much time replying to you because without trying to be offensive.. I must say that your posts read like gibberish to me to be perfectly honest, I thought I'd just better let you know that Nietzsche didn't hate jews though, in fact he opposed anti semetism so please get your shit straight before addressing me next time and cut it with the pathetic attempts to offend me, I'm not christian or german.

My initial post was not intended to be "racist", last I heard judaism was a religion anyways but the point is that lately all I've been reading and hearing about is these "jews against zionism" as if they are fkn saints or something which is just a load of shit IMO, they are not much better that modern zionists the way I see it.

BTW nick, I think there are a few double standards here, did you happen to notice? I guess this means that I can call people deluded gimps from now on? And cunts (as shz referred to me in another thread)? Cause anything else would be downright hipocracy and you wouldn't want to seem like a hypocryte who is abusing his privelages and victimising me for personal reasons would you? You don't seem to mind people abusing me in such a way, this is setting a dangerous precedent.

Finally I can honestly say that I think deathstickboy is the real gimp here and I'm pretty sure another member who's initials are CC handles the leash, I've thought this for a while after hearing one of their podcasts a long time ago, pretty sure they're lovers and I reckon DSB would definitely wear the gimp suit in the relationship.
02-10-2009, 08:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2009, 12:18 PM by ---.)
blah blah baaa baaa

To be honest I didn't really have an issue of him calling you 'an occasional delusional gimp' PURELY AND SIMPLY because I am SO SICK AND TIRED of having to play in this pantomime of yours!!!

Same as when shZ called you a cunt really - because you were acting like everyone was against you and simultaneously bitching bitching bitching.

I'm not a robot, I can get pissed off by idiotic nonsense.

There, you called him a gimp in return - k? all square now.

Quote:Mothandrust, I'm not going to spend much time replying to you because without trying to be offensive.. I must say that your posts read like gibberish to me to be perfectly honest

L0L that belies quite a lot. Maybe you need to read them more than once? I can say one thing for M+R and that is that he never struck me as being inarticulate, tbh

NO, you won't be tolerated to call people gimps or what have you and if you are being reasonable and someone flames you then we will address that too - with equanimity.

I swear, it feels like being a motherfucking secondary school teacher sometimes having to constantly deal with all the damn fuss that ensues whenever you start up.
and I don't like it!
Get a grip on it. okayy?

I've reduced your warn level - 'in an act of good faith' So I'm really fucking hoping that you'll capitulate from keeping this damned nonsense churning away.

And btw. you have completely wrecked this thread for the OP. Well done :angry2::rolleyes:

Also, an END to comments slagging off the board in general is wanted forthwith. I'm not 'setting any dangerous precedents' either - don't convince yourself that you have carte blanche to make derogatory comments to whoever you like because it doesn't float - the only danger it would present is to your warn level.

It's not personal - I wish you could just post reasonably tbh - you're not dumb - it's about the almost constant need for attention, bitching and strife that causes the seems like your not happy unless you're provoking a negative reaction.
02-10-2009, 11:05 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-10-2009, 11:22 AM by ---.)
Quote:Every time we (Christians, Messianic Jews, our family or friends) are caught with a table, chair or any other type of equipment outside our storefront we are being fined 430 shekels.

We have a Jewish friend who spent 17 yrs in a Siberian Work Camp who likes to play chess outside; he doesn't like confined spaces. We have a couple of Holocaust survivor friends who like to play dominos outside in the open air, all year around.

The rest of the guys are mostly retirees. I'm 61 and I'm the baby of the group! These guys are mostly Jews from Russia. Evidently Moscow, St Petersburg, Siberian, Ukraine, etc are cold places... they love to play outside in Israel, most think playing indoors is not as healthy and at their ages this is a concern.

In essence, what does outside our storefront entail? The whole city of Arad is outside our storefront. All of Israel is outside our storefront. Does this mean that they have passed a law that Christians, Messianic Jews, our family and friends can't sit outside anywhere in Israel or is it just in the city of Arad?
02-10-2009, 03:14 PM,
Quote:Finally I can honestly say that I think deathstickboy is the real gimp here and I'm pretty sure another member who's initials are CC handles the leash, I've thought this for a while after hearing one of their podcasts a long time ago, pretty sure they're lovers and I reckon DSB would definitely wear the gimp suit in the relationship.

No, he was my gimp. But I retired him over a year ago. Way to pay attention, attention seeker.
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02-11-2009, 02:30 AM,

7 Feb 09

Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them

By Amiram Barkat

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.

The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.

On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.

Both were questioned by police and the yeshiva student will be brought to trial. The Jerusalem District Court has meanwhile banned the student from approaching the Old City for 75 days.

But the Armenians are far from satisfied by the police action and say this sort of thing has been going on for years. Archbishop Nourhan Manougian says he expects the education minister to say something.

"When there is an attack against Jews anywhere in the world, the Israeli government is incensed, so why when our religion and pride are hurt, don't they take harsher measures?" he asks.

According to Daniel Rossing, former adviser to the Religious Affairs Ministry on Christian affairs and director of a Jerusalem center for Christian-Jewish dialogue, there has been an increase in the number of such incidents recently, "as part of a general atmosphere of lack of tolerance in the country."

Rossing says there are certain common characeristics from the point of view of time and location to the incidents. He points to the fact that there are more incidents in areas where Jews and Christians mingle, such as the Jewish and Armenian quarters of the Old City and the Jaffa Gate.

There are an increased number at certain times of year, such as during the Purim holiday."I know Christians who lock themselves indoors during the entire Purim holiday," he says.

Former adviser to the mayor on Christian affairs, Shmuel Evyatar, describes the situation as "a huge disgrace." He says most of the instigators are yeshiva students studying in the Old City who view the Christian religion with disdain.

"I'm sure the phenomenon would end as soon as rabbis and well-known educators denounce it. In practice, rabbis of yeshivas ignore or even encourage it," he says.

Evyatar says he himself was spat at while walking with a Serbian bishop in the Jewish quarter, near his home. "A group of yeshiva students spat at us and their teacher just stood by and watched."

Jerusalem municipal officials said they are aware of the problem but it has to be dealt with by the police. Shmuel Ben-Ruby, the police spokesman, said they had only two complaints from Christians in the past two years. He said that, in both cases, the culprits were caught and punished.

He said the police deploy an inordinately high number of patrols and special technology in the Old City and its surroundings in an attempt to keep order.

Yusef Daher
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02-22-2009, 07:47 PM,
Quote:The moshiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5).

He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1).

He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).

In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9)


Oh the irony! You take on the name of a guy who's most famous words were "God is dead", then use scripture to make a point.

Quote:Great, the zionists want to take over the world and inhabit israel now, the jews against zionism want to wait a little bit longer to do it, they're just such a bunch of benign saintly jews aren't they:rolleyes:

That was the last hate message I'll ever read on this board.

9-11 was a mossad operation with Israel being the main beneficiary. While it is noble and decent to try and distinguish between the criminal
participants and your average sleeping sheep Jew, the fact still remains that the innocent Jews will still slander you for investigating their criminal bretheren.

When the average apolitical Jew on the street dares to call me racist for simply pointing out this mossad involvement, that Jew should ask himself two things.
1) Why am I defending criminals? 2) Does defending criminals BECAUSE they are Jewish lend credence to the "Jewish Question"?

Our job here is to get to the bottom of things.... it's not to be politically correct.

Perhaps you should book an appointment with a certified mohel?

Quote:NSM won't be around for long if he can't control his belligerence. nb. I'm done arguing the point with him - it all just goes onto his warn level :cool14:

IMHO nsm gets his kicks from quarelling. It's not an intent to troll or anything like that, but imho he just likes to poke and nudge to solicit a reaction.
02-23-2009, 12:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-23-2009, 12:30 AM by ---.)
Quote:IMHO nsm gets his kicks from quarelling. It's not an intent to troll or anything like that, but imho he just likes to poke and nudge to solicit a reaction.

I couldn't be in more agreement especially after reading this thread from another forum he participates on.

NSM stars as 'baphomet' - pretty interesting stuff when considering the gunk he spouts on this board...seems like a lot of the stuff he says in that thread is largely all directlyr elated to info read on from here too - not a word of thanks either:rolleyes:

What is too funny, is that he takes the position of a holocaust denier in the thread yet rants at us here as being 'duped by nazi's' for also disputing the validity of such.

The guys just a great big stirrer a lot of the time :LOL:

"C.G. - he did have a member title of 'attention seeker' for a while but I removed it.
02-23-2009, 07:44 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-23-2009, 07:49 AM by nietzscheansuperman.)
:)Nik my position is exactly the same on this forum as it is on the other, however on the other forum I spend much of my time criticising israel and judaim because it is taboo there, whilst here it is zionist conspiracy theory overload with questionable sources and I don't want to be just another voice in the crowd. There is also little to no scrutiny (and in fact glorification) of the islamists who oppose zionism who IMO would be MUCH worse if they acheived their goal of world domination than zionists, use any muslim country as a microcosm and imagine the macrocosm.. scary shit, there is a major inbalance here IMO and that is why I spend much of my time criticising islam, yes I know this threat is being capitalised upon to take away our civil liberties and justify wars but IMO it is still a very serious threat.

Also like I said, I find many sources that people use on this site as being HIGHLY questionable to say the least and am disgusted at the hoaxes that are perpetuated here. I do not act as a holocaust denier there and change my stance here, I have always maintained that I question the official history surrounding this issue but do not rely on hoaxes such as 'Judea declares war on germany' and other bullshit documentaries for information, if you look on the other forum you will see that I have said that I do not like michael hoffman and my position is the same here.

I do come here to look for information and occasionally find something of interest, some I have linked to in the other forum but I have been looking into religion and the occult as well as conspiracy related topics for a very long time, not all my information comes from here and more importantly I believe I am able to distinguish between the 99% bullshit that is passed off as fact here and the 1% (maximum) that is actually valid. I am grateful for the help of this community in bringing certain things to my attention and especially to CTRL for starting the tracker which has been a valuable resource, please also keep in mind that I do post articles here myself from time to time and used to upload quite a bit on the tracker when I wasn't quite so busy.

RE the shit stirring thing.. I like to think of it more as constructive opposition. If I challenge peoples views and question their sources from time to time this can only be a good thing, if people are going to rely on something as evidence and label it "proof" then it had better be pretty fkn solid, and the truth should have nothing to fear from investigation right?;)But maybe their is a small element of shit stirring there too from time to time:LOL:
02-23-2009, 07:54 AM,
Quote:more importantly I believe I am able to distinguish between the 99% bullshit that is passed off as fact here and the 1% (maximum) that is actually valid


Why on Earth do you think a religio-Zionist world government would be LESS worse than that of a Kaliphate?

I say it's a preposterous statement insofar that both would be fucked.

Glad you like Concen and the tracker - and that it has served as an 'invaluable resource' - I feel the same way -the time for us all to show a little gratitude is just round the corner.

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