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How Elites Created the Hippie Movement to Kill America
05-13-2013, 05:08 PM,
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Music  How Elites Created the Hippie Movement to Kill America
In this article world-class researcher Jan Irvin shows how the Elites created the 1960's drug and hippie cultures for the purpose of turning people into mindless zombies.

The Elites' long-term goal is a return to Feudalism wherein a small caste of ultra-powerful elites rule over masses of mind-crippled peasants and farm them like cattle. They are succeeding.

This article is long and detailed. You will need to budget about 15 minutes to absorb the whole thing, but it's worth it.

http://www.gnosticmedia.com/manufacturing-the-deadhead-a-product-of-social-engineering-by-joe-atwill-and-jan-irvin/

I've been following Jan's work on this for the last six months. He spent thousands of hours and dollars submitting FOIA requests to the CIA, and acquiring documentation from university libraries and private letter collections.

Excellent work.

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05-13-2013, 08:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-13-2013, 08:40 PM by Watchdog.)
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Yeah it's the hippies, NOT the banksters, the elite, the sheeple that participate in the system, religious fanatics, and corporate psychopaths... God damn hippies, it's all their fault!
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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05-13-2013, 10:28 PM,
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RE: How Elites Created the Hippie Movement to Kill America
(05-13-2013, 08:39 PM)Watchdog Wrote: Yeah it's the hippies, NOT the banksters, the elite, the sheeple that participate in the system, religious fanatics, and corporate psychopaths... God damn hippies, it's all their fault!

It really is better to read an article before commenting on it.
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05-14-2013, 05:19 AM,
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RE: How Elites Created the Hippie Movement to Kill America
I found a neat 60s piece, here is a piece of the goodies:

Quote:In 1959, Kesey had been a volunteer in a C.I.A.-sponsored LSD experiment at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Menlo Park. His 1962 novel, One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest, was the result of his work there. In 1963 he assembled the Pranksters, including Stewart Brand, later famous as the author of the Whole Earth Catalog, and Neal Cassady, Jack Kerouac’s best friend and the model for Dean Moriarty in On the Road.

At the same time, the Peninsula was incubating a music scene. In 1962 a young guitarist named Jorma Kaukonen, the son of a State Department official from Washington, D.C., went to a hootenanny (a sing-along folk event) and met another young guitarist, a music teacher who had been named after the composer Jerome Kern. Open-faced with wild hair, Jerry Garcia led a jug band, and Kaukonen recalls him as “absolutely the big dog on the scene: he had a huge following, was very outgoing and articulate. People gravitated to him.”

The same weekend Kaukonen met Garcia, he says, he met Janis Joplin, “who w
page link:
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2012/07/lsd-drugs-summer-of-love-sixties

From what I heard this story runs true.
We let CIA disturbed people run wild with LSD and we got the 60s.

Now on to Moon Landing, space, JFK and all the rest to blame on
the elite and Illuminati giving the CIA ideas.
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05-14-2013, 06:48 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2013, 07:03 AM by fujiinn.)
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Nice info on the drug movement.

On the other hand I see Jan Irving doing some questionable investigations concerning Jesus. For instance he promotes Acharya S. here and Joseph Atwill here. Acharya S. was behind Zeitgeist, part 1, and Atwill suggests that Jesus probably didn't even exist and was created by the Romans as a figurehead for their new religion of obedience, Christianity. While it's true that Christianity is a manufactured religion (why would the Byzantine Empire adopt it if it was actually the truth?) going as far as saying that Jesus didn't exist at all, not even as a remarkable man, is far fetched. His thesis doesn't explain why Christianity was adopted in Ethiopia and Armenia, just an example. This comment on Atwill's work is very interesting:

Baregil de Gomçesval Wrote:The fulcrum of the argument rests upon comparing the Gospels with Josephus 'Wars of the Jews'. Atwill argues that one (which one?) is a satire and a parody of the other (which other?).

Granted that such possibility might be the case, that book A might be a parody of book B. Nevertheless, if book A is a parody of book B, forcibly book B ought to be the model upon which book A mimics, elaborates and ridicules. Therefore book B must have been written before book A. The parody comes second and the model comes first in time.

Now, the problem with Atwill's thesis is that sometimes he argues that Wars is a parody of the Evangelion and at times he argues that the Evangelion parodies Wars and this is a logical impossibility.

Which of the two comes first? Is it Wars or the Evangelion? Which one was written first?.

Atwill arguments that the Gospels depict a Jesus foretelling the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus Flavius and that the authors of the Gospels must have written their narrative, after the events related by Josephus in wars, had taken place. This way the evangelists were merely describing events, that by the time they were writing about them, they had already happened.

The majority of the scholars agree that the Gospels were written after Wars; some even claim that the 4 Canonical Gospels date after the Nicaea Council took place in the 4th century.

According with Atwill, the main purpose behind Titus concocting the Gospels was to defuse the virulency of the Sicarii movement (backing Jesus) and to convince the Judaics that the God-Messiah they were expecting was non other than Titus himself and "to give Caesar what belongs to Caesar"; in short, to defuse the rebellion in Judea and turn the revolting Judaics into pacifist subjects of Rome and the God-Caesar.

The problem with the above arguments is that if Wars was written before the Gospels, the Judeans revolt and the concomitant destruction of Jerusalem had already taken place, before the Evangelion had been written. This way, the main reason alleged by Atwill, for having Titus commissioned the fabrication of the Gospels becomes irrelevant and purposeless. What is the point to have written so 'convoluted and cryptic narrative' as that of the Gospels if the Sicarii had already been massacred? Do dead men read the 'Good News'? Moreover, are we to believe that the illiterate people of Judea were able to read books and could be influenced by means of written propaganda to tame them? Gimme a break!!!

For lack of space I will not elaborate on the similarities that Atwill sees and pinpoints between Wars and the Evangelion; suffice it to say that all his examples are farfetched.

If in a narrative 'a man leaves' and in the other narrative 'a man departs'. Are we to conclude that there is a similarity? On what ground? Frankly this amounts to pulling from a string. Flimsy and weak generalizations, but if you want to make Atwill rich, buy the book, read it, do your homework and judge by yourself.

Now, if you derive comfort from believing that Jesus did not exist or that he was an extra-terrestrial, so be it. What nobody can negate is that the Christian love message changed the World; yet, if you do not know what love (Agape) is, then you are a walking corpse. Faith is not the blind belief in a Credo or an intellectual proposition, but a life certainty of which you cannot possibly doubt, unless you want to negate yourself.
Source: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1TIVXG7Q70NED/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?ie=UTF8&asin=1461096405&cdForum=Fx31Z7QFDS7SGBJ&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx2A7FYNQNKI4FV&store=books

LE: just remembered this about the drug movement. Irving (and his co-author) explain the purpose of this campaign as a tool to bring a "new Dark Age" or an "archaic revival" in order to better farm humans. This also doesn't ring true. What ruler in his right mind would want to renounce his new high-tech toys just in order to keep his cattle as dumb and docile as possible (and unproductive as a consequence)? The more probable scenario could be the pacification of rebels, the discontents that probably resent being slaves. They are the target, the sacrifice done in order to keep the scam on.
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05-14-2013, 08:06 AM,
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(05-14-2013, 06:48 AM)fujiinn Wrote: What ruler in his right mind would want to renounce his new high-tech toys just in order to keep his cattle as dumb and docile as possible (and unproductive as a consequence)?

Where are you getting that rulers would renounce their high-tech toys?

I haven't seen that in Irvin's thesis.
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05-14-2013, 08:21 AM,
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(05-14-2013, 08:06 AM)CharliePrime Wrote:
(05-14-2013, 06:48 AM)fujiinn Wrote: What ruler in his right mind would want to renounce his new high-tech toys just in order to keep his cattle as dumb and docile as possible (and unproductive as a consequence)?

Where are you getting that rulers would renounce their high-tech toys?

I haven't seen that in Irvin's thesis.

This is a logical inference. High-tech requires infrastructure, education, continuous investment. If a majority of people get dumbed down, who is going to keep the infrastructure from crumbling?
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05-14-2013, 09:55 AM,
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A technocracy requires demand. Demand for codependence. Having the majority of the populace controlled by an ever dwindling minority and/or a people compartmentalized in specialized skill sets with a large number of pawns acting as a force prerogative (hippies > yuppies for instance) is an efficient methodology to enact this.

The middle man is paramount to the installation. Keeping people at a far enough distance from resources, manpower and organizational structures to mobilize this force serves to entrench this system further. Org structures such as laws, both property and the more abstract intellectual property laws combined with selectively triggered monetary channels, hinder the serf class from creating alternative avenues to fulfill these requirements when they buy into it en masse. This monetary/legal system is packaged with requirements of semblance, attainment, capital finance that selectively grant only certain entities the means to pursue resource extraction and distribution networks of scale. This all works in concert as a barricade to any alternative means to satiate the demand for codependent goods and services. This creates a feedback loop of power/intelligence/money/rights where the buck stops that disproportionately feeds back into the system itself.

Class and culture, combined with marketing (aka manufactured desire) railroad large chunks of the population towards supporting these systems, in perpetuity - at least until we can see through this matrix of control and break the exceedingly abusive codependent relationship.

Which kind of ties back into the hippy movement as a program in this much grander plan in assembling a large number of impotent codependent pawns that would make demands rather than break off and form an independent faction, weaving them much more easily into the system.

The hippie movement started off of a grassroots movement propelled by an innate concern that this system wasn't right and keyed in on war; demanding government intervene on their behalf to stop it.

Social engineers could not help but notice this trend and piggybacked their manufactured values such as civil rights, education, social welfare and drugs alongside and followed by drug laws and union busting to further entrench their system of codependency. The bribe of new music, drugs and free love acted to lubricate the movement and shift them into appeasement - giving them the illusion of freedom. This resulted in fracturing the group message, polarizing other groups against them, thus sucking out much of the inertia and derailing the initial aims of the movement of denouncing the military industrial complex.
There are no others, there is only us.
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05-14-2013, 04:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-14-2013, 04:37 PM by CharliePrime.)
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(05-14-2013, 08:21 AM)fujiinn Wrote: If a majority of people get dumbed down, who is going to keep the infrastructure from crumbling?

The control system does.

I'm not as eloquent as FastTadPole, but re-read what he writes above.

The Elites envision a form of Technocracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy wherein an educated, free citizen is not only unnecessary, but an actual hindrance to the smooth, profitable operation of society.

Worker bees are educated just barely enough to fulfill their societal function; janitor, engineer, waitress, computer programmer, soldier/cop, gardener, etc.

I used to call it ye' olde Fascism, but that's not quite accurate. It's a new, improved, more sophisticated form of control that is a synthesis of communism, scientific socialism, fascism, religion, and corporatism.

It starts with Plato's Republic.

The Hippie Movement was merely one, recent interation of the ancient control system.
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05-14-2013, 07:18 PM,
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Charlie and FT, I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just that the whole "new dark ages" is a bit misleading. I'm on the opinion that the essence of this historical time period never disappeared. We still have an elite and slavery, only their form changed, not the actual dynamic and hierarchical nature.

On a more positive perspective, what solutions do you (especially FT Smile ) envision for breaking this sadomasochistic loop?
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05-14-2013, 07:53 PM,
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I'd have to agree that the form is progressive and evolutionary to manifest the destiny of the so called 'elite'. Although we've seen pockets of resistance to the plan the so called elite are adept at course correction when met with a direct oppositional force prerogative. This type of resistance really plays into their hand.

See #occupy, the French Revolution, the hippie anti-war movement, civil rights movement, worker strikes, the Arab Spring, Free Tibet etc.. etc.. for examples of force and begging that were either infiltrated, crushed, dissolved, absorbed or dissuaded by any and all means.

The key to detaching ourselves from a codependent relationship is two-fold. We need to both stop feeding the current system and erecting ourselves in a coalition independent of the technocratic mechanisms which enslave us (as detailed upthread).

In order to be successful in this we need to create a desire to jump ship into a new way of living outside, alongside or overtop of the system. Their are as many ways to execute that as our individual and collective imagination can fathom.

That said we've seen attempts at this in the Liberty Dollar, Home Schooling, Native reserves that get started but persistence is key and scale is a major factor as well. What we can do now is present the ideas, make the plans and set the example until they are picked up and run with virally and spurn new ideas, plans and examples of how we could and can branch out humanity.

Instead of opposing, fighting and and begging for change we need to build it; we need to create it for ourselves or at least create something for future generations to snowball their own ideas into. We need to realize that nothing of this magnitude will shift without patience and persistence. Never ever ever give up.
There are no others, there is only us.
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05-14-2013, 10:25 PM,
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(05-14-2013, 07:18 PM)fujiinn Wrote: ...that the whole "new dark ages" is a bit misleading.

I agree. In my opinion Jan did (and usually does) a poor job of introducing why the Elites desire to mind-cripple certain populations, and what is their long-term, big picture goal. He assumes everyone is already aware of and accepting of his conspiracy premise.

The result is ignorant people blowing their tops when Jan demonstrates their drug idols may not be as saintly as they wish to believe. This drug aficionado Simon G. Powell flipping out is a good example:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2012/R314-120912.php

Fast-forward to 34:00 minutes... http://youtu.be/-XvBj4Bwea4?t=34m2s



It does not help matters that Jan is extremely thin-skinned. He reacts very badly to constructive criticism. Face-to-face in person he is the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet, but send him a critical email and he responds as if you kicked his cat.
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05-16-2013, 08:43 PM,
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I just thought I would include a couple of looks into the "world class researcher", Jan Irvin, and his failing in research and logic.

"Was Terence McKenna a CIA plant?"
http://disinfo.com/2013/01/was-terence-mckenna-a-cia-plant/

Read the comments on that thread.


Here, we have a member of ConCen, Drew Hempel, taking Irvin to task for shoddy research:
"Jan Irvin has fake citation in his Trivium Study guide"
http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/10/jan-irvin-has-fake-citation-in-trivium.html

Scroll down a little to the article.

As I have mentioned before, beware Jan Irvin and his massive ego and logical fallacies.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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