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Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
05-06-2013, 06:05 AM,
#1
Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
Have you heard ??

This is the deal, straight from the horses mouth...

Quote:On the morning of July 4, 2013, Independence Day, we will muster at the National Cemetery & at noon we will step off to march across the Memorial Bridge, down Independence Avenue, around the Capitol, the Supreme Court, & the White House, then peacefully return to Virginia across the Memorial Bridge. This is an act of civil disobedience, not a permitted event. We will march with rifles loaded & slung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny. We are marching to mark the high water mark of government & to turn the tide. This will be a non-violent event, unless the government chooses to make it violent. Should we meet physical resistance, we will peacefully turn back, having shown that free people are not welcome in Washington, & returning with the resolve that the politicians, bureaucrats, & enforcers of the federal government will not be welcome in the land of the free.

There's a remote chance that there will be violence as there has been from government before, and I think it should be clear that if anyone involved in this event is approached respectfully by agents of the state, they will submit to arrest without resisting. We are truly saying in the SUBTLEST way possible that we would rather die on our feet than live on our knees.

You are welcome to attend unarmed as a supporter, or armed with a recording device.

We especially invite law enforcement officers to stand with us armed however they feel is appropriate.

If this page gets to 10,000 attendees by June 1st, & we have the critical mass necessary to pull this off, (1,000 actual attendees) we will march. Please spread the word, share this event, & invite all your friends.

Thanks to everyone for the vibrant conversation, but we have decided to make the wall of this event page specifically just for announcements and important info for the event. Please feel free to comment, and continue the conversation as you like at: http://forums.adamvstheman.com/viewforum.php?f=13

The original Facebook event can be found here... https://www.facebook.com/events/252728144871259/?mall_view=posts
as of posting this here tonight, there are 1,250 people agreeing to go, and 1,180 saying "maybe." The numbers have been increasing by the hour, as the event was only created a couple days ago.

The mainstream news has already been picking up on it also....
Radio Host to Lead Armed March on DC July 4th 'To Put Gov't on Notice that We Won't be Intimidated' http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/radio-host-lead-armed-march-dc-july-4th-put-govt-notice-we-wont-be

Pro-gun advocates plan march on Washington, DC with loaded guns http://www.examiner.com/article/pro-gun-advocates-plan-march-on-washington-dc-with-loaded-guns

What are your thoughts on this folks ? This could obviously get ugly...

Here's a response I wanted to share...


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05-06-2013, 07:29 PM,
#2
RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
My initial thoughts are same as yours.

Quote:This could obviously get ugly...

You know what would be really neat as a follow-up... a bunch of people carrying rainwater barrels telling the government to stop regulating/banning catching rainwater.
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05-06-2013, 07:50 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
True… but that would only be a state march… as I believe there are only 9 states that have laws against collecting rain water.

Alex Jones had Adam Kokesh on for the last hour of his broadcast today. I don't know about you guys… but this is all pretty shocking.

there are now 1,575 people supposedly going, and 1,482 saying maybe….
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05-06-2013, 07:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-06-2013, 07:59 PM by CharliePrime.)
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
I just joined up with this gun march group. I've been on the road since Thursday. This is the first I've heard of this. I will wait to examine it until the furor dies down and both sides have their memes sorted out and solidified.

Surreal: Friday I sat alone at the Crestview train platform in Austin, Texas [photo below] for twenty-five minutes waiting on the train to downtown. A female computer voice from a speaker on a pole repeated every 30 seconds...

"If you see something ... say something. ... Call nine ... one ... one."

"If you see something ... say something. ... Call nine ... one ... one."

I listened to this message over FIFTY times. It was also repeated on the train every time it stopped. It was maddening. No wonder all these young hipster urbanites are so terrified of gun owners. Their minds are continually injected with the NWO collectivism meme from speakers and telescreens literally thousands of times per day.

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05-07-2013, 04:30 AM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
here's the bit that kokesh did on the jones show today, incase you missed it.





2,020 people planing to attend as of this evening. I'm pretty sure they are going to reach 10 thousand before their deadline. (june 1st)

Here's the video Adam upped to his channel about the event earlier today...


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05-07-2013, 04:51 PM,
#6
RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
I'm am honestly shocked at the reaction of the "patriot" community to this event.

For years and years so-called "patriots" have "talked the talk" about resisting unconstitutional laws. Now when it's time to "walk the walk", it's suddenly a bad idea because the government might get angry and act.

Which is it? Do we bla bla bla to our fellow prisoners about the shameful nature of these unconstitutional laws as they march us into the gulags and never actually resist them? Or do we actually stand up for our rights at some point in time?

Someday. Someday in the future we will uphold the Constitution, just not today. Not yet. The time isn't right. Conditions aren't ideal. Somebody might actually get hurt. We can't resist authoritarianism if somebody might get hurt. We should write more blog posts and wait. Wait for what?!

When I was a kid my grandfather rode around with a .30-.30 hanging in a rack in the window of his truck. If I did that today and parked at the grocery store, some housewife would freak out and call 911. These "patriots" are abiding those housewives and it must stop.
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05-07-2013, 05:09 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
I was just wary that one nutbag in the march or, more likely, a small contingent of agent provocateurs might morph this peaceful demonstration into something ugly.

What preventative measures can be taken for something like that?

Heck maybe they could even get IED'd.

Doing something is better than nothing, but that something best be prudent and goal oriented.
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05-07-2013, 05:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-07-2013, 06:11 PM by CharliePrime.)
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
(05-07-2013, 05:09 PM)FastTadpole Wrote: What preventative measures can be taken for something like that?

Expect it and document it.

There will be thousands of cameras on this event. Make there be thousands more. When the government psyop starts, the internet will be able to quickly identify and expose the provocateurs by combing through the footage.

Watch Lew Rockwell scramble to distance himself from Adam's march on Jones' show yesterday...

"It's not libertarian!"

http://youtu.be/wqm1b8xigqU?t=36m10s

Now comes the separation of the wheat from the chaff. This week make note of all the "patriots" who say this march is a bad idea because the government might get angry and act.

" Someday. Someday in the future we will uphold the Constitution, just not today. Not yet. The time isn't right. Conditions aren't ideal. Somebody might actually get hurt. We can't resist authoritarianism if somebody might get hurt. We should write more blog posts and wait ".

Watch and remember.
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05-07-2013, 08:31 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
(05-07-2013, 05:48 PM)CharliePrime Wrote: When the government psyop starts, the internet will be able to quickly identify and expose the provocateurs by combing through the footage.

The PSYOPs already started, imo. This whole event is a PSYOP. And the Internet can do whatever it wants, the mainstream media and those that trust it, still set the narrative in place that the rest of the media follows. Internet exposed the Boston bombing yet their official narrative is still overwhelmingly what most of the people believe to be true, not what the internet says, unfortunately.

This is a PSYOP because in fact, it is not our Capital(anymore) and is defined under Common Law, the SCOTUS and Public International Law as a foreign and separate sovereign nation.

What does all this mean? Like it or not, it means that this PSYOPS being done in the name of a "march" or "protest", promulgated by the handlers and agent provocateurs of the NWO, is an invasion of a foreign sovereign.

Now, what does that mean? It means that the foreign sovereign can act accordingly to repel an invasion, by force or by whatever means it desires. This is a lose, lose situation. The negative press alone will set us back decades.

At 1st I was excited for this but we really need to think before knee-jerk reactions lead to a much worse outcome. Of course I hope Im wrong. I hope that this works out completely, Im just not very trusting at this moment. We'll have to see for ourselves, but so many things can go wrong on this.
It really seems like they have a playbook, and if a play fails, they keep trying to do it over and over again to get the desired results and its not like this hasnt been tried before so just a reminder...
http://concen.org/forum/thread-15284.html
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05-07-2013, 09:39 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
Is it not just a way corral the extremists; get them all together to identify them in the public space?
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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05-07-2013, 10:54 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
(05-07-2013, 08:31 PM)SiLVa Wrote: [...]
It really seems like they have a playbook, and if a play fails, they keep trying to do it over and over again to get the desired results and its not like this hasnt been tried before so just a reminder...
http://concen.org/forum/thread-15284.html

The danger here is to allow oneself to be overwhelmed by fear and suspicion to the point in which solidarity is dead. Lets not forget that the best censorship is self censorship.

(05-07-2013, 08:31 PM)SiLVa Wrote: [...]
Now, what does that mean? It means that the foreign sovereign can act accordingly to repel an invasion, by force or by whatever means it desires. This is a lose, lose situation. The negative press alone will set us back decades.
[...]

The press already routinely reports various members of the freedom movement as being insane and dangerous, even calling them terrorists and suggesting violent measures to be taken against them. IMO the only potential for good this event might have, and I think this was the intention of Kokesh, is to show freedom loving people that they are not alone, that for every individual going armed to this march there is a huge number of sympathizers. This can be a great victory and I doubt another Waco will happen (or at least I hope they won't have the means to make another one reality).
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05-07-2013, 11:19 PM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
(05-07-2013, 10:54 PM)fujiinn Wrote: The danger here is to allow oneself to be overwhelmed by fear and suspicion to the point in which solidarity is dead. Lets not forget that the best censorship is self censorship.
I understand your point but that's not my intent. I agree with Kokesh's political stance on this, I'm just trying to look at this objectively. I'm hearing some familiar buzz words and seeing the imagery they are promoting with this event and I'm not sold on it quite yet. This is not Lexington and Concord. That was very different situation entirely.
They need to be real vigilant with this because it has more potential to backfire. Are they real sure that everyone will just submit peacefully if placed under arrest for breaking a supposed law? That's a lot of confidence.

(05-07-2013, 10:54 PM)fujiinn Wrote: The press already routinely reports various members of the freedom movement as being insane and dangerous, even calling them terrorists and suggesting violent measures to be taken against them. IMO the only potential for good this event might have, and I think this was the intention of Kokesh, is to show freedom loving people that they are not alone, that for every individual going armed to this march there is a huge number of sympathizers. This can be a great victory and I doubt another Waco will happen (or at least I hope they won't have the means to make another one reality).

We'll see I guess. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

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05-08-2013, 12:04 AM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
some other vids on this








"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

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05-08-2013, 01:40 AM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
It would be interesting to see if there is a better turnout or more press on this than the Jan 26th March for Gun Control.

   
http://www.guncontrolmarch.com/

Are there any sponsors for the Kokesh led march?
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05-08-2013, 02:07 AM,
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RE: Adam Kokesh Plans an Open Carry March on Washington DC July 4th
Quote:Protest group plans July 4 march on Washington with loaded rifles

An Internet talk show host is trying to gather protesters to march into the District on July 4 carrying loaded rifles, prompting a warning from D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier that her own armed force will meet them at the border.

“If you’re coming here to protest government policy, great,” the chief said Tuesday on her monthly appearance on NewsChannel 8, reacting to the group’s plan to cross the Potomac from Arlington National Cemetery. “If you’re coming here to break the law, we’ll take action.”

Lanier added, “There’s a pretty good chance we’ll meet them on the D.C. side of the bridge.”

So will the U.S. Park Police, Sgt. Paul Brooks said. If the protesters go through with the march, Park Police will be waiting for them at the District line, which happens to be on U.S. Park Service property, near the Virginia side of Memorial Bridge.

News of the march comes amid a national debate over gun regulations that emerged following the Newtown, Conn., massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School. And it is scheduled to take place in one of the most strictly regulated cities when it comes to firearms laws. Washington allows residents to possess registered firearms on their own property, but the city forbids carrying those weapons in public.

Authorities noted that they have not been in contact with the group’s leader, Adam Kokesh, a 31-year-old U.S. Marine who served in Iraq and returned a self-proclaimed libertarian and anti-war activist. Kokesh publicized his plans in Internet postings.

On his blog, “Adam Vs The Man,” Kokesh called on people to register for the march, which he called an act of civil disobedience. He said protesters with loaded guns slung across their backs will march around the U.S. Capitol, the Supreme Court and the White House. Thus far, 2,500 people have signed up to participate, Kokesh said.

On the blog, Kokesh wrote that he is planning a nonviolent protest, but he won’t predict what could happen if the police move in with force. He urged protesters to submit to arrests and said the group will peacefully turn back if denied entry into the District. But separately, he said some protesterers plan to take a step into the District to prompt an arrest.

“We will march with rifles loaded and flung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated and cower in submission to tyranny,” Kokesh wrote on the Internet site. “Should we meet physical resistance, we will peacefully turn back, having shown that free people are not welcome in Washington. ... We are truly saying in the SUBTLEST way possible that we would rather die on our feet than live on our knees.”

In an interview, Kokesh said said the march is not aimed at protesting the District’s gun laws specifically but is “more to assert our rights as individuals on Independence Day.”

He said he wants to work with law enforcement and hopes that Lanier will make an exception to the law and grant his group safe passage, and even a police escort, through the District.

Brooks, with the Park Police, said guns are not allowed in the cemetery in Arlington. But he said it appears the group plans to start just outside the cemetery gates, along Memorial Drive. He said the organization has not sought a permit, as required for demonstrations on National Park Service property, but Kokesh said on the web site he does not intend to get one.

Lanier said on the television program that city representatives are willing to meet with Kokesh and other leaders “to facilitate whatever they want to get accomplished in a legal way.” But, she said, “passing into the District with loaded firearms is a violation of the law and it will be treated as such.”

In 2007, Kokesh was photographed at the Senate Hart Office Building being arrested wearing a T-shirt that read, “Iraq veterans against the war.” He was arrested again in 2011 when he led a group dancing at the Jefferson Memorial, and he has gotten into trouble for protesting in a Marine uniform and for taking a souvenir gun home from the battlefield.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protest-group-plans-july-4-march-on-washington-with-loaded-rifles/2013/05/07/59b8e392-b727-11e2-aa9e-a02b765ff0ea_story.html?wpisrc=nl_buzz
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