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How Visionary is Too Visionary?
03-16-2013, 10:15 PM,
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How Visionary is Too Visionary?
How Visionary is Too Visionary?
Faye Sakellaridis

TED talks are known for dispersing an incredible variety of inspiring, visionary ideas. Each speaker brings something innovative and integral to the larger conversation in this time of global transformation. Recently, controversy has flared in the TED world regarding their removal of TED talks by Rupert Sheldrake and Graham Hancock on the grounds that their talks contained factual errors which "undermine TED's commitment to good science."

Both talks were TEDx, which means they are independently organized TED events. According to Emily McManus, editor of TED, these talks are not vetted, but they can be removed from the TEDx archive if they contain ideas that are "wrong to the point of being unscientific."

In this post, TED staff provided concise critiques of each talk as explanation for their removal. For TED's full explanation about their action, click here.

According to their science board, Rupert Sheldrake's argument was based on "several major factual errors." The example used is his suggestion that scientists reject the notion that animals have consciousness, despite the large body of research and literature exploring the idea. They also contended that Sheldrake's research behind morphic resonance in crystal formation and rat behavior has never been in a peer-reviewed journal.

Regarding Graham Hancock's talk, they claimed he misrepresents modern scientific thought, partly due to his suggestion that "no scientists are working on the problem of consciousness." They deemed his statements about psychotropic drugs to be "both nonscientific and reckless. They find claims made by Hancock, such as psychotropic drug use being essential for "an emergence into consciousness," to be misleading.

TED's removal of the videos from YouTube has provoked wide condemnation. As journalist and author Robert McLuhan writes in his blog, "that's what TED is all about: to present challenging new ideas and innovative thinking. If it doesn't take risks and rile the establishment sometimes, what's it for?"

This controversy has sparked intense debate across the internet regarding the delicate balance between scientific integrity and innovative leaps of faith. If we are too conservative and adhere only to what has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, we run the risk of never progressing. Conversely, if we operate solely on intuition and whim, we lack the necessary foundation for new ideas to thrive and become practical.

Below are the TEDx talks, by Rupert Sheldrake and Graham Hancock respectively, that were removed.





Giving Up the Green Bitch
Graham Hancock

In this 18-minute Tedx presentation, "Giving up the Green Bitch," Graham Hancock tells the story of his 24-year relationship with cannabis brought to an abrupt halt in 2011 after an encounter with ayahuasca, the sacred visionary brew of the Amazon. Along the way he explores the mystery of death, the problem of consciousness, and the implications for the human future of a society that wages total war on true cognitive liberty.

http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/169064
http://www.realitysandwich.com/how_visionary_too_visionary
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03-16-2013, 11:32 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
"...If we are too conservative and adhere only to what has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, we run the risk of never progressing..."

Therefore we can now choose to believe that climate change is caused by humans and also see it as progress. Yeah right.
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03-16-2013, 11:33 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
(03-16-2013, 10:15 PM)Frank2 Wrote: In this 18-minute Tedx presentation, "Giving up the Green Bitch," Graham Hancock tells the story of his 24-year relationship with cannabis brought to an abrupt halt in 2011 after an encounter with ayahuasca, the sacred visionary brew of the Amazon. Along the way he explores the mystery of death, the problem of consciousness, and the implications for the human future of a society that wages total war on true cognitive liberty.

Thoughts on ayahuasca piggybacked on a documentary/promo for the drug here.. http://concen.org/forum/thread-36504.html

But yeah the green can be a bitch - I know a few people who have let go of it and they are much much better people for it.
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03-18-2013, 09:24 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
to anwer the title question:
-"How Visionary is Too Visionary?"
I think it's important to keep an open mind,
but not so open your brain falls out..
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03-19-2013, 02:20 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
(03-18-2013, 09:24 PM)nofunclub Wrote: but not so open your brain falls out..

Ha! That's good. Icon_biggrin
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03-21-2013, 11:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-21-2013, 11:20 AM by nofunclub.)
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
TED Backs Down: People Power Wins Against Censorship
Posted by Graham Hancock on March 20, 2013
http://www.disinfo.com/2013/03/ted-backs-down-people-power-wins-against-censorship/
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03-21-2013, 04:58 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
(03-21-2013, 11:19 AM)nofunclub Wrote: TED Backs Down: People Power Wins Against Censorship
Posted by Graham Hancock on March 20, 2013
http://www.disinfo.com/2013/03/ted-backs-down-people-power-wins-against-censorship/

This could just as easily be a sophisticated marketing scheme to plug Hancock's ideas. I've seen it done before. Remember when Alex Jones was banned from YouTube and shortly thereafter reinstated with a lot more publicity.

Nick Hanauer's "Tax the Rich" speech was banned/promoted under similar circumstances. Not all talks make the cut to air .. I don't see why not other than to filter content for one reason or another, be it branding, conflicting ideas or do spark some guerrilla marketing.

Censorship happens but so does editing and marketing. With someone as prolific a best selling author and subculture icon as Graham Hancock is I'd lean towards marketing.
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03-21-2013, 06:46 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
The talk: "How Visionary is too Visionary" by Rupert Sheldrake which TED censored was by far the better talk. don't mean to but in but Hancock's talk wasn't all that. Sheldrake's was pretty good. JMHO
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03-22-2013, 11:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-22-2013, 07:26 PM by macfadden.)
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
FastTadpole Wrote:I've seen it done before [...] and shortly thereafter reinstated with a lot more publicity.

Nick Hanauer's "Tax the Rich" speech was banned/promoted under similar circumstances.





I don't get it FT, do you think Nick Hanauer is trying to trick you into communism? Because everything he's saying makes a fair bit of sense to me. I don't understand? The Red-baiting is such a tired tactic that has been so thoroughly debunked that I can't see how an honest person could actually engage in it?
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03-22-2013, 07:39 PM,
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RE: How Visionary is Too Visionary?
(03-22-2013, 11:37 AM)macfadden Wrote:
FastTadpole Wrote:I've seen it done before [...] and shortly thereafter reinstated with a lot more publicity.

Nick Hanauer's "Tax the Rich" speech was banned/promoted under similar circumstances.

I don't get it FT, do you think Nick Hanauer is trying to trick you into communism?

It was an example of how TED and many other sites market their materials. That is all.
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