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Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
02-04-2013, 12:18 AM,
#16
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
(02-02-2013, 12:13 AM)Easy Skanking Wrote: Instead of a brainwashing, I choose to guide my actions and self by my empathy, compassion, wisdom and intellect. I choose my actions instead of giving away my power to anything outside myself. Since the world is in the toilet, I can see what those outside forces have allowed things to come to. Obviously, they have not made the correct decisions. Since I am not insane, I choose a different course of action on the personal level to start.

Despite all of the programming we as a species are subject to, I still think we have to ability to make the correct decisions. Some it will take much longer than others but at least there are some of us to get the ball rolling. I think that at some fundamental level we have to allow brainwashing. Most are tricked into it, but the decision to allow it or not is still ours to make. I got rid of my religious brainwashing that was foisted on me by bring raised in the church an my father being a priest. If I can overcome that programming and think for myself, anyone can.

Never said other wise... I said I like to live MY life by God's words I never said that he takes over my body and starts doing shit for me. Our actions are all our own and we cannot blame or give congrats to others for things that we have done.

Quote:I just finished talking to God and he told me that this thread made him laugh. So I asked him why?

He responded -"Did you forget to take you pills again?"

I don't know why God would say such a thing, I don't even take pills?

God really does work in mysterious ways...

Thanks for that great piece of insight. I've heard better opinions from down syndromes. Don't be closed minded to things I have to say and I will give you the same respect but till then, you're a bitch.

Quote:Some truth does make it into the writings, most from the previous beliefs that were absorbed and perverted to gain followers. The character of Christ even says that the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. That is echoed in many other practices of spirituality all over the world and from all ages. Relying on someone else to tell us what is true is the essence of folly. Hear what they have to say, but don't take it as gospel.

God is within all of us couldn't agree more on that point. The thing is that people now are completely closing their minds to the idea, and therefore blocking him out. The only thing that anyone needs to do to communicate with God is open your mind.

Also God is not a person. Relying on someone else to tell you what to do is folly. It's called being submissive to their will and thus makes you a slave.
Alone we are nothing. United nothing can stand in our way
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02-04-2013, 02:03 AM,
#17
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
"I've heard better opinions from down syndromes. Don't be closed minded to things I have to say and I will give you the same respect but till then, you're a bitch."

Son_of_Ft, you are way to deep, spiritual, loving, kind and knowledgeable for me. I shall retreat in my close mindedness, burn in Hell, and let you continue your God preaching. Don't be discourage if you didn't save my soul, I'm sure you'll save others.
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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02-04-2013, 02:20 AM,
#18
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
(02-04-2013, 12:18 AM)Son_of_FT Wrote:
(02-02-2013, 12:13 AM)Easy Skanking Wrote: Instead of a brainwashing, I choose to guide my actions and self by my empathy, compassion, wisdom and intellect. I choose my actions instead of giving away my power to anything outside myself. Since the world is in the toilet, I can see what those outside forces have allowed things to come to. Obviously, they have not made the correct decisions. Since I am not insane, I choose a different course of action on the personal level to start.

Despite all of the programming we as a species are subject to, I still think we have to ability to make the correct decisions. Some it will take much longer than others but at least there are some of us to get the ball rolling. I think that at some fundamental level we have to allow brainwashing. Most are tricked into it, but the decision to allow it or not is still ours to make. I got rid of my religious brainwashing that was foisted on me by bring raised in the church an my father being a priest. If I can overcome that programming and think for myself, anyone can.

Never said other wise... I said I like to live MY life by God's words I never said that he takes over my body and starts doing shit for me. Our actions are all our own and we cannot blame or give congrats to others for things that we have done.
That was actually a reply to the previous statement from Watchdog. Read more carefully. Wink

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Quote:Some truth does make it into the writings, most from the previous beliefs that were absorbed and perverted to gain followers. The character of Christ even says that the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. That is echoed in many other practices of spirituality all over the world and from all ages. Relying on someone else to tell us what is true is the essence of folly. Hear what they have to say, but don't take it as gospel.

God is within all of us couldn't agree more on that point. The thing is that people now are completely closing their minds to the idea, and therefore blocking him out. The only thing that anyone needs to do to communicate with God is open your mind.

Also God is not a person. Relying on someone else to tell you what to do is folly. It's called being submissive to their will and thus makes you a slave.

I did not say "God is within you". It says "The Kingdom of Heaven". There is a difference. It can also mean a peaceful state, Zen, Nirvana or our centered selves among many other things. However, a two-faced Abrahamic deity is not one of them.

Being a slave is exactly what the monotheistic religious are doing to the followers. Submit to God. Submit to Jesus. Surrender, etc. That's what they have to say as they are control mechanisms, not paths to spiritual growth.
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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03-01-2013, 06:23 AM,
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RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"




Just thought this might add to the discussion a little bit.

Just think about all of the Satanic symbols in the media. Why would they be pushing Satanism on the general population if they didn't believe in God and Satan?

If the people that own the World are spiritual maybe their plan is make the masses unaware of spirituality. And frankily most of what I've heard from Concen people have proven to have bought into that agenda pretty well, if it's the case.
Alone we are nothing. United nothing can stand in our way
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03-01-2013, 06:47 PM,
#20
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
"And frankily most of what I've heard from Concen people have proven to have bought into that agenda pretty well, if it's the case. "

Hail Satan!!!
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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03-01-2013, 10:41 PM,
#21
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
(03-01-2013, 06:47 PM)Frank2 Wrote: "And frankily most of what I've heard from Concen people have proven to have bought into that agenda pretty well, if it's the case. "

Hail Satan!!!

My point proven. People shrug off things like tht like it's nothing.

It's not nothing, now your concious mind might be thinking LOL but your spirit or subliminal mind people are calling it now is like Exclamation and throwing up red flags. Now you can laugh at me all you want, but that's not accomplishing anything.
Alone we are nothing. United nothing can stand in our way
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03-02-2013, 06:05 AM,
#22
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
(03-01-2013, 10:41 PM)Son_of_FT Wrote:
(03-01-2013, 06:47 PM)Frank2 Wrote: "And frankily most of what I've heard from Concen people have proven to have bought into that agenda pretty well, if it's the case. "

Hail Satan!!!

My point proven. People shrug off things like tht like it's nothing.

It's not nothing, now your concious mind might be thinking LOL but your spirit or subliminal mind people are calling it now is like Exclamation and throwing up red flags. Now you can laugh at me all you want, but that's not accomplishing anything.


My conscious mind is thinking?
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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03-02-2013, 07:12 AM,
#23
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
As opposed to your subliminal one...or your sub-lingual one...or your superluminal one. Wink
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after
equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” -Nikola Tesla

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace." -Jimi Hendrix
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03-02-2013, 07:18 AM,
#24
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
Big Grin

I like the sound of the superluminal one, where can I get get one of those??
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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03-02-2013, 08:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-02-2013, 08:51 AM by macfadden.)
#25
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
“... not once more will I be found with beings who swallowed the rail of life

And one day I found myself with beings who swallowed the nail of life -as soon as I lost my matrix mamma, and the being twisted under him, and god poured me back to her(the motherfucker)...”

Watchfiends and Rack Screams






A Boltzmann brain is a hypothesized self-aware entity which arises due to random fluctuations out of a state of chaos. The idea is named for the physicist Ludwig Boltzmann (1844–1906), who advanced an idea that the known universe arose as a random fluctuation, similar to a process through which Boltzmann brains might arise.

Boltzmann brains are often referred to in the context of the "Boltzmann brain paradox" or "problem". They have also been referred to as "Boltzmann babies".[1]

The concept arises from the need to explain why we observe such a large degree of organization in the universe. The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy in a closed universe will never decrease. We may think of the most likely state of the universe as one of high entropy, closer to uniform and without order. So why is the observed entropy so low?

Boltzmann proposed that we and our observed low-entropy world are a random fluctuation in a higher-entropy universe. Even in a near-equilibrium state, there will be stochastic fluctuations in the level of entropy. The most common fluctuations will be relatively small, resulting in only small amounts of organization, while larger fluctuations and their resulting greater levels of organization will be comparatively more rare. Large fluctuations would be almost inconceivably rare, but are made possible by the enormous size of the universe and by the idea that if we are the results of a fluctuation, there is a "selection bias": we observe this very unlikely universe because the unlikely conditions are necessary for us to be here, an expression of the anthropic principle.

If our current level of organization, having many self-aware entities, is a result of a random fluctuation, it is much less likely than a level of organization which only creates stand-alone self-aware entities. For every universe with the level of organization we see, there should be an enormous number of lone Boltzmann brains floating around in unorganized environments. In an infinite universe, the number of self-aware brains that spontaneously randomly form out of the chaos, complete with false memories of a life like ours, should vastly outnumber the real brains evolved from an inconceivably rare local fluctuation the size of the observable universe.

The Boltzmann brain paradox is that any observers (self-aware brains with memories like we have, which includes our brains) are therefore far more likely to be Boltzmann brains than real evolved brains, thereby at the same time also refuting the selection-bias argument.







In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him to be within it. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, concluded that only he himself existed, being ignorant of the superior levels of reality.

The Demiurge, having received a portion of power from his mother, sets about a work of creation in unconscious imitation of the superior Pleromatic realm: He frames the seven heavens, as well as all material and animal things, according to forms furnished by his mother; working however blindly, and ignorant even of the existence of the mother who is the source of all his energy. He is blind to all that is spiritual, but he is king over the other two provinces. The word dēmiourgos properly describes his relation to the material; he is the father of that which is animal like himself.

Now the archon (ruler) who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas (“fool”), and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, "I am God and there is no other God beside me," for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.

“Samael” literally means “Blind God” or “God of the Blind” in Aramaic (Syriac sæmʻa-ʼel). This being is considered not only blind, or ignorant of its own origins, but may in addition be evil; its name is also found in Judaica as the Angel of Death and in Christian demonology. This leads to a further comparison with Satan. Another alternative title for the Demiurge, “Saklas,” is Aramaic for “fool” (Syriac sækla “the foolish one”).


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03-05-2013, 06:19 PM,
#26
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
can you guys see my Paradise Lost Conspiracy post (in this section)????? interested to hear your thoughts! please comment if you can see it...cause i cannot :[ spent 30 mins thinking and writing too *sigh*
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03-08-2013, 10:18 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-08-2013, 10:22 AM by macfadden.)
#27
RE: Personal Opinions on "Higher Power"
Prometheus (Goethe)
Shroud your heaven, Zeus,
With cloudy vapours,
And do as you will, like the boy
That beheads thistles,
With oak-trees and mountain-tops;
You must my Earth
Now abandon to me,
And my hut, which you did not build,
And my hearth,
Whose glow
You begrudge me.

I know of nothing poorer
Under the sun, than you, Gods!
You are barely nourished
By sacrificial offerings
And prayerful exhalations
Your Majesty
And would starve, were
Not children and beggars
Hopeful fools.

When I was a child,
And did not know the in or out,
I turned my wandering eyes toward
The sun, as if beyond it there were
An ear to hear my lament,
A heart like mine,
To take pity on the afflicted.

Who helped me
Against the Titans' mischief?
Who delivered me from Death,
From Slavery?
Did you not accomplish it all yourself,
Holy, burning Heart?
And glowed, young and good,
Deceived, your thanks for salvation
To the sleeping one above?

I should honour you? For what?
Have you softened the sufferings,
Ever, of the burdened?
Have you stilled the tears,
Ever, of the anguished?
Was I not forged as a Man
By almighty Time
And the eternal Fate,
My masters and yours?

Do you somehow imagine
I should hate life,
Flee to the desert,
Because not every
Flowering dream may bloom?

Here I sit, forming people
In my image;
A race, to be like me,
To suffer, to weep,
To enjoy and delight themselves,
And to mock you –
As I do!


Quote:Arthur Schopenhauer wrote: "This world could not have been the work of an all-loving being, but that of a devil, who had brought creatures into existence in order to delight in the sight of their sufferings."

Dystheism (Greek δύσ θεος "bad god"), is the belief that a god is not wholly good, and is possibly evil. Trickster gods found in polytheistic belief systems often have a dystheistic nature. One example is Eshu, a trickster god from Yoruba mythology who deliberately fostered violence between groups of people for his own amusement, saying that "causing strife is my greatest joy."

Dystheists may themselves be theists or atheists, and in the case of either, concerning the nature of the God of Abrahamic faiths, will assert that God is not good, and is possibly, although not necessarily, malevolent, particularly to those who do not wish to follow that faith.

Such attitudes have often stemmed from ideas similar to that of Mikhail Bakunin, who stated that "if God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him" as a result of [God's] perceived antagonism to freedom.


Quote:Misotheism is the "hatred of God" or "hatred of the gods" (from the Greek adjective μισόθεος "hating the gods", a compound of μῖσος "hatred" and θεός "god"). In some varieties of polytheism, it was considered possible to inflict punishment on gods by ceasing to worship them. Thus, Hrafnkell, protagonist of the eponymous Icelandic saga set in the 10th century, as his temple to Freyr is burnt and he is enslaved states that "I think it is folly to have faith in gods", never performing another sacrifice, a position described in the sagas as goðlauss "godless". Jacob Grimm in his Teutonic Mythology observes that:

It is remarkable that Old Norse legend occasionally mentions certain men who, turning away in utter disgust and doubt from the heathen faith, placed their reliance on their own strength and virtue. Thus in the Sôlar lioð 17 we read of Vêbogi and Râdey á sjálf sig þau trûðu, "in themselves they trusted".

In monotheism, the sentiment arises in the context of theodicy (the problem of evil, the Euthyphro dilemma). A famous literary expression of misotheistic sentiment is Goethe's Prometheus, composed in the 1770s.

A related concept is dystheism (Greek δύσθεος "ungodly"), the belief that a god is not wholly good, and is possibly evil. Trickster gods found in polytheistic belief systems often have a dystheistic nature. One example is Eshu, a trickster god from Yoruba mythology who deliberately fostered violence between groups of people for his own amusement, saying that "causing strife is my greatest joy."

Some Dualist interpretations of Christianity would conclude that demons are gods in those subsets of religions. In that context, misotheism is encouraged for one third of all deities but not the other two thirds. The concept of the Demiurge in some versions of ancient Gnosticism also often portrayed the Demiurge as a generally evil entity.

Many polytheistic deities since prehistoric times have been assumed to be neither good nor evil (or to have both qualities). Thus dystheism is normally used in reference to the Judeo-Christian God. In conceptions of God as the summum bonum, the proposition of God not being wholly good would of course be a contradiction in terms.

A historical proposition close to "dystheism" is the deus deceptor (dieu trompeur) of Descartes' Meditations on First Philosophy, which has been interpreted by Protestant critics as the blasphemous proposition that God exhibits malevolent intent. But Kennington states that Descartes never declared his "evil genius" to be omnipotent, but merely no less powerful than he is deceitful, and thus not explicitly an equivalent to God, the singular omnipotent deity.


The evil demon, sometimes referred to as the evil genius, is a concept in Cartesian philosophy. In his 1641 Meditations on First Philosophy, René Descartes hypothesises the existence of an evil demon, a personification who is "as clever and deceitful as he is powerful, who has directed his entire effort to misleading me." The evil demon presents a complete illusion of an external world, including other minds, to Descartes' senses, where in fact there is no such external world in existence. The evil genius also presents to Descartes' senses a complete illusion of his own body, including all bodily sensations, when in fact Descartes has no body. Most Cartesian scholars opine that the evil demon is also omnipotent, and thus capable of altering mathematics and the fundamentals of logic.

The evil demon has a parallel with Berkeley's concept of a consensus reality supported by God. It is one of several methods of systematic doubt that Descartes employs in the Meditations.

"summe potens & callidus"(translated as "most highly powerful and cunning")



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