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Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
01-07-2013, 10:50 PM,
Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Piers Morgan will have Alex Jones on his show, Piers Morgan Tonight, Live on Monday, January 7, 2013 at 9pm ET.

Hopefully this makes it to the tracker. If I or you find a live stream, please post a link to it here. Hopefully someone will at least get the full bit on youtube before the night is over. I can't wait to see this. LOL
01-07-2013, 10:59 PM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN

A live stream can be found here! *bless those 12160'ers Grin
01-08-2013, 04:43 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Your thoughts ....

01-08-2013, 05:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-08-2013, 05:19 AM by R.R.)
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Great entertainment!

Alex is right about crime in general. Piers, for obvious reasons, only concentrates on gun crime. Here's The Guardian's own website on knife crime:

Quote: Dogan Ismail murder: police release picture of wanted boy
3 Jan 2013: In an unusual step, police release CCTV image of last sighting of Dawda Jallow, 15, wanted for questioning over fatal stabbing

Man charged with Christmas murder of girlfriend
28 Dec 2012: David O'Sullivan remanded in custody after appearing in Llanelli court over stabbing of Charmaine MacMuiris on 25 December

Four men jailed for murder of 17-year-old boy
Kelvin Chibueze 20 Dec 2012: Kelvin Chibueze was fatally stabbed in east London nightclub and then chased outside by attackers with bottles

Two teenagers get life sentences for murdering innocent schoolboy
18 Dec 2012: Nelson Idiabeta and Nathaniel Okusanya stabbed Kwame Ofosu-Asare after mistaking him for member of rival gang

Man stabbed in throat on his doorstep after helping stranger
16 Dec 2012:
Victim in stable condition in hospital after unprovoked attack in Bingley, West Yorkshire

Teenager murdered in mistaken gang attack in Brixton
kwame Ofosu-Asare knife victim 27 Nov 2012: Kwame Ofosu-Asare was accidental victim of 'senseless feud' between rival gangs in Brixton, south London, court told

British man killed in robbery at South African farm
26 Nov 2012: Briton Chris Preece stabbed to death for £210 and a mobile phone by intruders at farm nature reserve

Man cleared of Oxford Street murder
22 Nov 2012: Jermaine Joseph, who stabbed Seydou Diarrassouba through the heart in Foot Locker, acted in self-defence, jury finds

Four arrested over Jay Whiston house party murder
Jay Whiston, who was fatally stabbed at a party in Colchester in September 15 Nov 2012: Two men, aged 18 and 51, a woman, 42, and girl, 17, are being questioned over fatal stabbing of teenager at

Colchester party
Stephen Farrow: murdered vicar's sister welcomes guilty verdict - video
Murdered vicar's sister says sentence is 'just' - video Video (2min 27sec),

2 Nov 2012:
Hilary Bosworth, whose brother John Suddards, a Gloucestershire vicar, was stabbed to death in February, tells of her relief
Victoria station killing: commuters shocked by knives, bars and batons

Sofyen Belamouadden killing: final conviction over Victoria station death

Sofyen Belamouadden 24 Oct 2012:
Joint-enterprise murder prosecution ends with case of Junior Bayode who joined 20-strong charge against 15-year-old

Victoria station killing: man convicted over Sofyen Belamouadden death
24 Oct 2012:
Junior Bayode, now 19, is 17th person to be convicted over killing after being found guilty of manslaughter

Grayling's plan for tackling burglars? A disproportionate farce
9 Oct 2012: Patrick Strudwick: When intruders burst into my flat there was no law allowing disproportionate force – which is why I'm still here to tell the tale

Police investigate Facebook house party murder
Police at the scene where Jay Whiston, 17, was murdered at a house party in Colchester, Essex 10 Sep 2012: Four teenagers being questioned over stabbing of student at Essex house party that was advertised on Facebook

And theres many more stories for research from mainstream sources alone.

Quote:London Knife Crime Offences 2007 to 2012

Posted on 20/06/2012 by CitizensReport

London Knife Crime by Borough 2007 to 2012
21 out of 32 London boroughs saw increases in knife crime offences from the 2010-11 financial year to the end of the 2011-12 financial year leading to a continuation of the four year upward trend. The greatest percentage increases (over +20%) occurred in Redbridge, Merton, Hillingdon, Richmond, Lambeth, Islington. Moderate reductions (better than -10%) have occurred in Enfield and Wandsworth.
Lambeth with 1006 knife crime offences in 2011-12, a 28.8% increase (additional 187 offences) over the year, now has the highest level of knife crime in London, with Southwark coming the second highest with 961 knife crime offences.

While the level of stabbings – knife offences that have led to injury – has remained relatively unchanged with a 4% decrease from 2010-11 (4,133 offences) to 2011-12 (3,970 offences); it is likely that the 10% increase in personal robbery from 2010-11 (32,848 offences) to 2011-12 (36,138 offences) contributed to the increases in overall knife crime offences, as knives are regularly used to threaten and intimidate robbery victims.

Table of London Knife Crime Offences by Borough 2007 – 2012
BOROUGH Knife Crime 2007-08 Knife Crime 2008-09 Knife Crime 2009-10 Knife Crime 2010-11 Knife Crime 2011-12
% change over yr
Barking and Dagenham 384 354 397 391 461 (+17.9%)
Barnet 364 340 404 357 393 (+10.1%)
Bexley 170 193 136 154 160 (+3.9%)
Brent 623 504 547 512 575 (+12.3%)
Bromley 265 323 286 282 276 (-2.1%)
Camden 474 318 349 426 440 (+3.3%)
Croydon 595 491 542 508 566 (+11.4%)
Ealing 585 489 567 528 504 (-4.5%)
Enfield 554 446 533 577 514 (-10.9%)
Greenwich 509 414 373 435 396 (-9%)
Hackney 660 548 509 539 506 (-6.1%)
Hammersmith and Fulham 372 277 304 307 286 (-6.8%)
Haringey 633 505 495 490 552 (+12.7%)
Harrow 215 216 181 190 221 (+16.3%)
Havering 187 203 205 222 231 (+4.1%)
Heathrow Airport 1 0 0 0
Hillingdon 367 342 266 262 336 (+28.2%)
Hounslow 345 25 262 335 341 (+1.8%)
Islington 445 464 409 443 544 (+22.8%)
Kensington and Chelsea 194 185 150 159 167 (+5%)
Kingston upon Thames 133 137 116 101 106 (+5%)
Lambeth 719 662 692 819 1006 (+22.8%)
Lewisham 580 498 498 650 676 (+4%)
Merton 218 177 239 223 299 (+34.1%)
Newham 980 597 788 774 764 (-1.3%)
Redbridge 396 407 316 307 432 (+40.7%)
Richmond upon Thames 109 75 97 80 100 (+25%)
Southwark 827 725 880 961 920 (-4.3%)
Sutton 182 182 163 150 130 (-13.3%)
Tower Hamlets 556 481 433 496 630 (+27%)
Waltham Forest 631 545 618 625 603 (-3.5%)
Wandsworth 383 365 404 448 396 (-11.6%)
Westminster 536 529 458 575 638 (+11%)
TOTAL per financial year
14192 12347 12617 13326 14170 (+6.3%)

source MPS 2012.

Knife Crime: All offences of Murder, attempted murder, threats to kill, manslaughter, infanticide, wounding or carrying out an act endangering life, GBH without intent, ABH and other injury, sexual assault, rape, robbery where a knife or sharp instrument (defined as any instrument that can pierce the skin) has been used.
Simple possession is excluded (For example, when a police search results in a discovery of possession of a weapon). Please note: data includes where a knife was ‘threatened but not seen’ from April 2008 onwards.
01-08-2013, 05:29 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Alex shit the bed. He fell right into their little propaganda trap. He started off OK and then went into classic conspiratard mode. Yelling, mean mugging and challenging Piers to a boxing match. All entertaining sure but not helpful in the long run.
Then of course, Alex goes into his frenzy about 9/11- there's the setup and spiked by Piers and all the other media hacks he has on after him. Feigning fear and distress about all the angry misled conspiracy minions that want to remain in control of their guns and how we can't have that. Its too dangerous!
To be fair to AJ, he did bring up some valid information and I dig him trying to be aggressive to an extent. I just think he dropped the ball in terms of having a legitimate debate and helped Piers look like the victim of some redneck bully.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
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01-08-2013, 06:37 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-08-2013, 06:38 PM by SiLVa.)
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Any one else have any thoughts on this now that we can see the aftermath of the whole thing?
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

01-08-2013, 08:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-08-2013, 08:46 PM by SiLVa.)
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Emphasis added
Quote:CNN host Piers Morgan just called to discuss his interview last night with Alex Jones, the conservative radio host and gun advocate who went on a tirade against Morgan, gun control legislation, and a litany of government conspiracies.

"He was the best advertisement for gun control you could wish for," Morgan told POLITICO.

"That kind of vitriol, hatred, and zealotry is really quite scary. I didn't feel threatened by him, but I'm concerned that someone like him has that level of influence," Morgan said. "There's got to be a level of discourse that can rise above what happened last night. It was undignified, unedifying."

In what Morgan described as a "big, long rant," Jones -- the man who started the White House petition to deport Morgan -- shouted questions about gun control legislation, gave premonitions of a 1776-like rebellion, and pronounced conspiracy theories -- including his belief that 9/11 was an inside job -- while Morgan tried calmly and in vain to conduct a civil interview.

"Sometimes it's better to let somebody have the rope they need to tie themselves in knots," Morgan told POLITICO, noting that he had been far more vocal and more passionate in previous interviews with gun advocates. According to Morgan, Jones continued ranting straight through the commercial break that divided the two-segment interview.

Morgan said he anticipated such a performance: "I knew what we were going to be getting into with him," he said. "I know about his background and his reputation, so I know he's kind of shock jock."
But Jones is also influential among conservatives, Morgan said, which is why he had him on CNN.

"He said last night that his show now airs in 140 networks, he has a huge online presence -- every day his message gets sent out to millions of Americans," Morgan said. "Through vitriol and rhetoric he is able to spur heavy gun sales and ammunition sales. He works off of fear."

Jones is the host of The Alex Jones Show, based in Austin, Texas, and the creator of and, two websites that promote a worldview the Southern Poverty Law Center described as being "governed by logic-leaping deductions and heedless pronouncements."

But Jones has made a success of those websites, of his show, and -- most recently -- of the petition to deport Morgan, which has over 100,000 signatures. Last night, White House spokesman Jay Carney issued a response to the petition, citing "the freedom of expression" as "a bedrock principle in our democracy"

"He is clearly a smart guy under the craziness," Morgan said. "Look, you could tell from the way he ranted that he's not a stupid man. But that makes him more dangerous. There will be lots of people who follow him avidly who are not so intelligent, who believe everything he says."
Morgan added that the petition to deport him was "not an insignificant issue."

"There is a pattern of British people who espouse peace or want more peace being gagged in this country," he said, citing John Lennon and Charlie Chaplin. But Morgan said that Carney's nod to the First Amendment was promising.

"They were making the point I've been making: You can hardly accuse me of attacking the Second Amendment by attacking the First Amendment," he said. "I am merely representing my opinion, and that is protected."

Though the media seems to have all but forgotten the gun control debate, and though chances for gun control legislation are starting to look dim, Morgan vowed to continue addressing the issue until government takes action.

"After every shooting, America goes back to normal. The media come off the story, nothing gets done, the pressure on politicians dissipates," he said. "But you and I both know there's going to be another shooting in months, or even weeks. My intent is simply to keep this issue boiling along until the politicians act on it."
"I think America is getting diluted to the horror of these things: it's become too casual, too widespread, too indiscriminate, and incredibly dangerous," he said. "Something has to be done."

So there you go...
Alex was played like a fiddle.
Now here's the question. Dont you think Jones is smart enough to know exactly how he will be portrayed in the media? So why do what he did?
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

01-08-2013, 11:45 PM,
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I agree Silva. They played Alex. We know everything Jones said was true, but to the average CNN zombie he looked like a nutter.

I rarely listen to Jones but have this week because the gun thing is of interest to me because I own several AR's. I just listened to the first hour of today's Infowars show. Jones is playing it that he was provoked into emotion because of the thugs they had trailing him.

I think Jones was also playing to his market segment. I live in Texas. The gun nuts here were spooked by how the MSM spun Sandy Hook. It wouldn't take much for some hard-kore fundies to start shooting ATF agents here (again).

Heck, maybe that's what the NWO wants.
01-09-2013, 02:14 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
He should have done the whole interview calm but with the accent.
01-09-2013, 03:43 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
SiLVa Wrote:Now here's the question. Dont you think Jones is smart enough to know exactly how he will be portrayed in the media?

Without a doubt, Jones is very media savvy.

SiLVa Wrote:So why do what he did?

Because Jones makes big Big Time off the dialectic. The little shtick he did plays right into the stereotype.
01-09-2013, 06:29 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
as i posted in the other thread
me! Wrote:ok, i cannot stand piers bloody morgan but alex jones comes off like a total xenophobic prick in this.
he was utterly evasive and the only decent points he made to rebuff morgan were in reference to being fired for bullshit stories in the paper he was editing and also about his more than probable involvement in the phone hacking scandal.
it pains me to say this but morgan come off as reasonable while jones comes off as a rude,xenophobic foaming lunatic.
and it does pain me to say it as morgan is an utter cock.
and yeah, he got played huge but seemed as usual to revel in it even though he does come off so badly.
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01-09-2013, 07:51 AM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
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01-09-2013, 05:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-09-2013, 05:16 PM by SiLVa.)
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
Classic anti-gun hypocrisy...Not surprised in the least. Alex Jones may stink sometimes but Morgan is just the filthiest piece of shit there is in the media.
I heard Jones is now asking for a moderated debate with Morgan. Probably should have modertated himself the 1st time but I'd like to see that happen.

Odds are that Morgan wont accept though. They have the fodder they wanted. I doubt they will let Jones save face but Im sure in their eyes the ratings are more important, so you never know.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

01-09-2013, 08:00 PM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
(01-09-2013, 07:51 AM)April Wrote: [Image: mad0116.gif]

I find it difficult to believe that human beings actually sit in their living rooms and watch the people in that video.

My sister is about as clueless and media zombied as a person can be, and she wouldn't watch that.

Jones said the CNN studios were filthy, with boogers on the walls (I kid you not). Jones claims their viewer numbers are extremely low.
01-09-2013, 10:21 PM,
RE: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan on CNN
For an interesting discussion with Doug Newberry`:
Paix, Amour et Lumiere

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