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Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
12-05-2012, 07:47 AM,
#16
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
(12-05-2012, 07:36 AM)R.R Wrote: I interpretted it as spreading information that should be relevant to those with a wider interest/understanding of the topics covered in the conspiracy field.

That's pretty much it, but I would think this would be relevant to any with a wider interest in Life, the World, and Reality. This technology and the ethics that determine how it is developed and utilized holds profound implications for every human being on the planet.

On a forum such as this one it is a little strange for someone to ask: "And why exactly are you telling me this?"
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12-05-2012, 02:08 PM,
#17
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
macfadden Wrote:That's pretty much it, but I would think this would be relevant to any with a wider interest in Life, the World, and Reality.

Absolutely, although I always find it funny that 'truthers' don't seem to be bothered if there isn't a Jew involved somewhere.

macfadden Wrote:This technology and the ethics that determine how it is developed and utilized holds profound implications for every human being on the planet.

Again agreed 100% and again 'truthers' don't seem to be able to grasp this concept, preferring to imagine that getting rid of a certain group will solve the world's problems. It's like technocratic dystopias will be ok as long as certain groups aren't in charge.

This isn't a dig at anyone posting on this particular thread, it's more a dig at the surge of pro-Nazi bullshit that has been cropping up on here lately.
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12-05-2012, 07:09 PM,
#18
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
did you look at the carboncopies site?
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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12-05-2012, 07:36 PM,
#19
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
Very interesting site Frank

Quote:What is carboncopies.org?

Carboncopies.org is a nonprofit organisation with a goal of advancing and creating Substrate-Independent Minds (SIM). Through carboncopies.org, we reach out to the public (e.g. meetings, Facebook group), to projects and experts, in order to introduce SIM, to explain why we should accomplish SIM, to maintain development roadmaps, as well as to facilitate research and development networks, secure funding and the establishment of new projects to address the complete mosaic of requirements.

SIM is a field of research which seeks to understand the brain and nervous system of a wide range of organisms, including humans, in order to facilitate emulation of these organisms in an artificial substrate, for example a computer processor.

Why is carboncopies.org needed?

In order for progress to be made in the field of SIM, advancements in many key technologies and research areas are required. These include:

Nanotechnology, biotechnology, brain imaging, neuroscience, artificial intelligence, computational hardware and architectures, cognitive psychology and philosophy.

SIM sits at the confluence of many subjects, and cross-disciplinary research is a necessity. However, it can be difficult to manage and organise ideas from many different fields of expertise. SIM offers tantalizing possibilities, but they need to be understood and pursued in a structured fashion.

Carboncopies.org will help by offering a networking platform and hub around which experts in the individual fields relevant to SIM can gather and exchange ideas. It will also promote these ideas and explain the motivation behind SIM to a wider audience.

How will carboncopies.org achieve this?

Carboncopies.org organises workshops and conferences where interested parties can exchange ideas, network with others, and keep updated on the latest developments in the field. We also gather up-to-date literature and news relevant to the SIM community.

http://www.carboncopies.org/
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12-05-2012, 09:54 PM,
#20
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
(12-05-2012, 07:27 AM)macfadden Wrote: I'm not a topic nazi, I don't mind where the discussion leads as long as the discourse is intelligent. Did anyone's perspective really benefit from the stupid poem? I found it tedious and distasteful.

Is it not tedious and distasteful to complain about someone elses comments on the forum when that is precisely why the forum is here? The way one chooses to express themselves shouldnt be mocked or derided just because you disagree with them or the way they choose to communicate their point of view. I didnt very much understand the poem, but Im not going to let it bother me, nor should you.
And spelling mistakes are common on the internet people come on now, not everyone speaks english as a 1st language, so give the guy a break.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

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12-06-2012, 03:25 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2012, 03:27 AM by Watchdog.)
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RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
(12-05-2012, 09:54 PM)SiLVa Wrote:
(12-05-2012, 07:27 AM)macfadden Wrote: I'm not a topic nazi, I don't mind where the discussion leads as long as the discourse is intelligent. Did anyone's perspective really benefit from the stupid poem? I found it tedious and distasteful.

Is it not tedious and distasteful to complain about someone elses comments on the forum when that is precisely why the forum is here? The way one chooses to express themselves shouldnt be mocked or derided just because you disagree with them or the way they choose to communicate their point of view. I didnt very much understand the poem, but Im not going to let it bother me, nor should you.
And spelling mistakes are common on the internet people come on now, not everyone speaks english as a 1st language, so give the guy a break.

Thanks Silva.

Sometime I use poetry as I find it can communicate things that linear thinking can't -mental images.

Perhaps I should of started off by giving my thoughts in a normal fashion before going kookie on you all. I can see it was NOT appreciated and seen as derailing the thread.

I'm not a troll, but I don't like being attacked and can bite back (which is a bad habit... I know).

Such a bad start...

Dommage c'est certain. Oh well, that's life.

(12-05-2012, 07:20 AM)R.R Wrote:
Watchdog Wrote:It's easy to blame outside forces for the problems in the world. That's what everyone does. How many are making the necessary changes in their lives? Besides for talking about it on the net...

The best piece of advice I can give you is look into your relationship with your mother because you sound like someone seeking the missing admiration she was supposed to give you while you were growing up with your grandiose fantasies and childish explanations.

Reality check - you are also talking on 'the net' - and if you are making changes to your life then it is not unfair to assume others are. By assuming people are just 'talking on the net' you display your stupidity and that cannot be blamed on your lack of knowledge regarding Anglais.

So necessary change number 1 - go find somewhere else for the missing ego-gratification you didn't get as an ignorant 6 year old, because over here you are going to be rightly exposed as the emotionally stunted moron you really are.

Wow. So much hatred... :-(

(please leave my mother out of this... ok?)
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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12-06-2012, 04:09 AM,
#22
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
I can't say whether or not there really is a moratorium on human reproductive cloning in the west. It seems feasible that research into such technology would have been fast tracked into and continued with in the world of black projects for militarised applications. JMO
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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12-06-2012, 05:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-06-2012, 05:28 AM by macfadden.)
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RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
(12-06-2012, 04:09 AM)Frank2 Wrote: I can't say whether or not there really is a moratorium on human reproductive cloning in the west. It seems feasible that research into such technology would have been fast tracked into and continued with in the world of black projects for militarised applications. JMO

I agree, god knows what the MIC is up to.

Special access programs
Two types of SAP exist: acknowledged and unacknowledged. The existence of an acknowledged SAP may be publicly disclosed, but the details of the program remain classified. An unacknowledged SAP (or USAP) is made known only to authorized persons, including members of the appropriate committees of the United States Congress. Waived SAPs are a subset of unacknowledged SAPs in the Department of Defense. These SAPs are exempt by statutory authority of the Secretary of Defense from most reporting requirements and, within the legislative branch, the only persons who are required to be informed of said SAPs are the chairpersons and ranking committee members of the Senate Appropriations Committee, Senate Armed Services Committee, House Appropriations Committee, and the House Armed Services Committee.


Army of the future: Soldiers will be able to run at Olympic speed and won't need food or sleep with gene technology

Pentagon scientists researching gene manipulation to build the soldiers of tomorrow
They hope to be able to trigger the cells of injured soldiers' bodies to rebuild lost limbs


Tomorrow's soldiers could be able to run at Olympic speeds and will be able to go for days without food or sleep, if new research into gene manipulation is successful.

According to the U.S. Army's plans for the future, their soldiers will be able to carry huge weights, live off their fat stores for extended periods and even regrow limbs blown apart by bombs.

The plans were revealed by novelist Simon Conway, who was granted behind-the-scenes access to the Pentagon's high-tech Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency.

GM troops on the horizon? Pentagon scientists are working on genetic manipulation that would give their soldiers superhuman qualities.

With a budget of almost $2billion a year DARPA, established in 1958 after the USSR's first successful space mission shocked America, has a goal of maintaining U.S. technological dominance on the battlefield.

Among it's many ambitious projects, the agency is working on an exoskeleton that will allow soldiers to run faster and lift prodigious weights. But its most controversial work involves genetic modification.

DARPA is working on triggering genes that will make soldiers' bodies able to convert fat into energy more efficiently so they are able to go days without eating while in the warzone.

With plump soldiers able to go on deployment for days living just off their own body fat, that would free up space in their kit bags hitherto used for ration packs.

The drugs and genetic enhancements and some technology which gets applied would allow for regeneration, faster healing, muscle strength enhancement up to current olympic levels, endurance of an Alaskan sled dog, cognitive enhancement, operate without sleep for many days without performance degradation, the metabolic energy of twenty year old for a forty or fifty year old and immunity to pain.

The Metabolically Dominant Soldier program is managed by Joe Bielitzki. He is talking about fixing your cells so that you could live off your fat. Bielitzki acknowledges the potential for spin-off technologies. “Forty billion dollars a year goes into the weight loss industry in this country,” he muses. “This will change it.”

Regeneration, better healing, better immune systems would all revolutionize healthcare costs and healthcare effectiveness. So trillions in economic benefit as a side effect of supersoldier success. DARPA is also trying to enhance cognition, training and giving the energy levels of youth to the elderly. Those could provide multi-billion or even trillion dollar per year boosts to the US and world economy.

Projects in pipeline range from drugs that will boost muscles and energy by a factor of 10, akin to steroids…on steroids (the project is jokingly termed the “Energizer Bunny in Fatigues”) to wearable, cooling gloves that regulate body temperature and prevent soldiers from getting overheated (and thus tired) even on the hottest desert day. [Keeping the body cool increases endurance]

This program is going well beyond some current relatively safe and conservative forms of performance enhancement. [Safer SARM/steroids, endurance enhancing drink]

A major focus is on helping the soldier’s body to better deal with trauma and damage. One such is the “pain vaccines” coming out of a program at Rinat Neuroscience [Pfizer acquired Rinat Neuroscience in 2006]. Researchers are hopeful these “will block the sense of pain for almost a month,” describes DARPA’s Michael Goldblatt.

The substance does is block intense pain in less than 10 seconds. Its effects last for 30 days. It doesn’t stifle your reactions. If you touch a hot stove, you still have the initial shock; your hand will still automatically jerk away. But after that, the torment is gone. The product works on the inflammatory response that is responsible for the majority of subacute pain. If you get shot, you feel the bullet, but after that, the inflammation and swelling that trigger agony are substantially reduced. The company has already hit its first milestones in animal testing and is preparing reports for scientific conferences.


Professor Peter Weyand, Southern Methodist University (Texas), known for his expertise in terrestrial locomotion and human and animal performance says that humans would soon have the ability to modify and greatly enhance muscle fibre strength. This would enable speeds of 45 miles per hour and 5 seconds times for 100 meters.


“My measure of success is that the International Olympic Committee bans everything we do"

DARPA Continues Experiments To Create Military Super Soldiers
Wednesday, September 26, 2012
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/09/darpa-continues-experiments-to-create-military-super-soldiers-2471998.html
“The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has a $2
billion yearly budget for research into creating a super solider as well
as developing a synthetic police force,” reports recent article at Occupy Corporatism website. Writer Susanne Posel, possibly hottest writer out there, provides update on progress to create super soldiers. The article reveals current research to eliminate fatigue, pain, fear and empathy through testing, “… on the wiring of the human brain are furthered by Jonathan
Moreno, professor of bioethics at Pennsylvania State University. Moreno
is working with the DoD in understanding neuroscience. The Pentagon
allocated $400 million to this research.” There’s also research on switching metabolism to burn body fat to reduce food requirements, regrowing limbs and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) for “unfettered reasoning.”

Posel asks, “Do we want a generation of veterans who return without guilt?…In addition to genetically modifying the human genome, global Elite are
obsessed with the merging man and machine, transhumanism and
immortality. Basing advancements on scientific research, the 2045 Program
will create ‘a new vision of human development that meets global
challenges humanity faces today, realization of the possibility of a
radical extension of human life by means of cybernetic technology, as
well as the formation of a new culture associated with these
technologies.’” DARPA research and 2045 Strategic Social Initiative should alarm any sane reader!
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12-06-2012, 07:01 AM,
#24
RE: Enhancing Evolution: The Ethical Case for Making Better People
A bit like Project Bridgestone in the Bourne legacy.
“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.” Travis Walton
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