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"Climate Deniers" - the myth of consensus
11-18-2012, 08:30 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2012, 08:32 AM by macfadden.)
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"Climate Deniers" - the myth of consensus
In 2009, the CO2 global average concentration in Earth's atmosphere was about 0.0387% by volume!!!!!

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"The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t". - Kevin Trenberth(lead author of the 2001 and 2007 IPCC Scientific Assessment of Climate Change)

“Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary,” - Peter Thorne of the UK Met Office

“I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,” - Peter Thorne of the UK Met Office

“Mike, The Figure you sent is very deceptive … there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC,” - Tom Wigley, University Corporation for Atmospheric Research.




Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist and Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Lindzen is known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. He was a lead author of Chapter 7, 'Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks,' of the IPCC Third Assessment Report on climate change. He is a well known skeptic concerning catastrophic global warming and critic of what he states are political pressures on climate scientists to conform to what he has called climate alarmism.
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Robert M. "Bob" Carter is emeritus fellow and science policy advisor at the free market think-tank the Institute of Public Affairs and an adjunct professorial research fellow in earth sciences at James Cook University, Queensland. Carter is a former Director of Australia's Secretariat for the Ocean Drilling Program and a Co-Chief Scientist for drilling leg 181.
Carter has published scientific papers on taxonomic paleontology, the growth and form of the molluscan shell, New Zealand and Pacific geology, sea level and paleoclimatology, New Zealand maritime glaciation, Quaternary geology, stratigraphic classification, sequence stratigraphy, sedimentology,and the Great Barrier Reef.
Carter has published primary research in the related field of palaeoclimatology, investigating New Zealand's climate extending back to 3.9 Ma. In 2009 he co-authored a paper in the Journal of Geophysical Research claiming the El Niño-Southern Oscillation can account for most of the global temperature variation of the last fifty years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpfMM3bVbhQ

Roy W. Spencer received his Ph.D. in meteorology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 1981. Before becoming a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville in 2001, he was a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where he and Dr. John Christy received NASA’s Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal for their global temperature monitoring work with satellites. Dr. Spencer’s work with NASA continues as the U.S. Science Team leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming.
Dr. Spencer’s research has been entirely supported by U.S. government agencies: NASA, NOAA, and DOE. He has never been asked by any oil company to perform any kind of service. Not even Exxon-Mobil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZz_e946ITU


Garth William Paltridge, (born 24 April 1940, Brisbane, Queensland), is a retired Australian atmospheric physicist. He is presently a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University and Emeritus Professor and Honorary Research Fellow at the Institute of Antarctic and Southern Oceans Studies (IASOS), University of Tasmania.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8oiXUZ-rVQ


The Bolt Report, Episode 23. Special climate panel discussion with Professor Garth Paltridge, Professor Peter Ridd and Professor Bob Carter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yMHuQthzeg



Dr. John R. Christy is the Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville where he began studying global climate issues in 1987. Since November 2000 he has been Alabama's State Climatologist. In 1989 Dr. Roy W. Spencer (then a NASA/Marshall scientist and now a Principle Research Scientist at UAH) and Christy developed a global temperature data set from microwave data observed from satellites beginning in 1979. For this achievement, the Spencer-Christy team was awarded NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement in 1991. In 1996, they were selected to receive a Special Award by the American Meteorological Society "for developing a global, precise record of earth's temperature from operational polar-orbiting satellites, fundamentally advancing our ability to monitor climate." In January 2002 Christy was inducted as a Fellow of the American Meteorological Society.
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Judith A. Curry is an American climatologist and chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Her research interests include hurricanes, remote sensing, atmospheric modeling, polar climates, air-sea interactions, and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles for atmospheric research. She is a member of the National Research Council's Climate Research Committee.
Curry is the co-author of Thermodynamics of Atmospheres and Oceans (1999), and co-editor of Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences (2002), as well as over 140 scientific papers. Among her awards is the Henry G. Houghton Research Award from the American Meteorological Society in 1992.
In a June 2011 essay posted at her blog, Curry describes how her thinking on the "climate change controversy" has changed in the past five years:
I’ve been engaging with skeptics since 2006 (before starting Climate Etc., I engaged mainly at Climate Audit). People were suspicious and wondered what I was up to, but the vilification didn’t start until I recommended that people read The Hockey Stick Illusion. The book itself, plus more significantly my vilification simply for recommending that people read the book, has pushed me over the ledge and into a mode of aggressively challenging the IPCC consensus. . . . It is my sad conclusion that opening your mind on this subject sends you down the slippery slope of challenging many aspects of the IPCC consensus.
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William M. "Bill" Gray (born 1929) is Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University (CSU), and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project at CSU's Department of Atmospheric Sciences. He is a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanes and one of the world's leading experts on tropical storms.
In 1952, Gray received a B.S. degree in geography from George Washington University, and in 1959 a M.S. in meteorology from the University of Chicago, where he went on to earn a Ph.D. in geophysical sciences in 1964.
He served as a weather forecaster for the United States Air Force, and as a research assistant in the University of Chicago Department of Meteorology. He joined Colorado State University in 1961. He has been advisor of over 70 Ph.D. and M.S. students.
Gray is noted for his forecasts of Atlantic hurricane season activity. Gray pioneered the concept of "seasonal" hurricane forecasting—predicting months in advance the severity of the coming hurricane season. Gray and his team (including Christopher W. Landsea, Paul W. Mielke Jr., and Kenneth J. Berry, among others) has been issuing seasonal hurricane forecasts since 1984.
After the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, Gray announced that he was stepping back from the primary authorship of CSU's tropical cyclone probability forecasts, passing the role to Philip J. Klotzbach. Gray indicated that he would be devoting more time to the issue of global warming. He does not attribute global warming to anthropogenic causes, and is critical of those who do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZVE8JHxRAc

Ross McKitrick is a Canadian economist specializing in environmental economics and policy analysis. He is professor of economics at the University of Guelph; a senior fellow of the Fraser Institute, a Canadian free-market public policy think tank; and a member of the academic advisory boards of the John Deutsch Institute and the Global Warming Policy Foundation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STHx27lQuBA

Willie Wei-Hock Soon is an astrophysicist and geoscientist at the Solar and Stellar Physics (SSP) Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. He is a receiving editor for the journal New Astronomy. Soon has testified before Congress on the issue of climate change. He is known for his views that most global warming is caused by solar variation.
Soon attended the University of Southern California, receiving a B.Sc. in 1985, followed by a M.Sc. in 1987 and then a Ph.D. [with distinction] in 1991.[8] His doctoral thesis was titled, Non-equilibrium kinetics in high-temperature gases.[9] He received the IEEE Nuclear and Plasma Sciences Society Graduate Scholastic Award in 1989 and the Rockwell Dennis Hunt Scholastic Award from the University of Southern California in 1991.
After completing his Ph.D. and upon the advice of his thesis advisor, Soon did post doctoral research at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and has been doing research in astrophysics and earth science there since 1991. He has also been an astronomer at the Mount Wilson Observatory, a senior scientist at the George C. Marshall Institute, the chief science adviser to the Science and Public Policy Institute and an Adjunct Professor of the Faculty of Science and Environmental Studies of the University of Putra, Malaysia. In 2004 Soon was awarded the "Petr Beckmann Award for outstanding contributions to the defense of scientific truth" by Doctors for Disaster Preparedness.
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Sallie Baliunas is an astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in the Solar, Stellar, and Planetary Sciences Division and formerly Deputy Director of the Mount Wilson Observatory. She serves as Senior Scientist at the George C. Marshall Institute in Washington, DC, and chairs the Institute's Science Advisory Board. She is also Visiting Professor at Brigham Young University, Adjunct Professor at Tennessee State University and past contributing editor to the World Climate Report. Previously Robert Wesson Endowment Fund Fellow (1993–1994) at the Hoover Institution. She was a co-host of Tech Central Station.
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Ján Veizer (born June 22, 1941) is the Distinguished University Professor (emeritus) of Earth Sciences at the University of Ottawa and Institute for Geology, Mineralogy und Geophysis, of Bochum Ruhr University, he held the NSERC/Noranda/CIFAR Industrial Chair in Earth System Isotope and Environmental Geochemistry until 2004. He is an award-winning isotope geochemist; his research interests have included the use of chemical and isotopic techniques in determining Earth's climatic and environmental history.
Veizer has received the Killam Award (Canada Council, 1986), the 1987 W.W. Hutchison Medal for young individuals making exceptional advances in Canadian earth science research; the 1991 Willet G. Miller Medal for outstanding contributions in geology; the 1992 Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize,which carried a 1.55 million euro value, awarded for understanding of the geochemistry of sediments; the 1995 Logan Medal which is the Geological Association of Canada's highest honour ; the 2000 Bancroft Award for contributions furthering the public understanding of the Earth sciences.
During his career, Veizer oversaw the collection of a series of more than 4,500 measurement data of oxygen isotopes in calcite and aragonite shells used to build up climate and sedimentary data of the whole Phanerozoic based on tropical sea surface temperatures.
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Don J. Easterbrook is a geology professor emeritus at Western Washington University.
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Ian D. Clark is a professor in the Department of Earth Sciences at the University of Ottawa (Canada), who has been writing about geoscience and geochemistry since at least 1982. His graduate work in isotope hydrogeology was at the University of Waterloo and the University of Paris. Clark has written numerous articles for the Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, for over 25 years


Ian Clark and Peter Fritz, Environmental Isotopes in Hydrogeology, 1997, ISBN 1-56670-249-6.
Ian Clark and B Lauriol, "Aufeis of the Firth River basin, northern Yukon, Canada: insights to permafrost hydrogeology and karst". Arctic and Alpine Research, 29: 240-252, 1997.
Ian Clark, B Lauriol, L Harwood, M Marschner, "Groundwater Contributions to Discharge in a Permafrost Setting, Big Fish River, NWT, Canada", Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, 33: 62-69, 2001.
B Lauriol, ID Clark. An approach to determine the origin and age of massive ice blockage in two Arctic caves, Permafrost and Periglacial Processes, 1993.
I Clark, B Lauriol, M Marschner, N Sabourin, et al. Endostromatolites from permafrost karst, Yukon, Canada, Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, 2004.
D Lacelle, B Lauriol, ID Clark, "Seasonal isotopic imprint in moonmilk from Caverne de l’Ours (Quebec, Canada): implications for climatic reconstruction". Canadian Journal of Earth Science, 41: 1411-1423, 2004.
ID Clark, L Henderson, J Chappellaz, D Fisher et al., "CO2 isotopes as tracers of firn air diffusion and age in an Arctic ice cap with summer melting, Devon Island, Canada". Journal of Geophysical Research 112, D01301, doi:10.1029/2006jD007471, 2007.

Climate realist Ian D. Clark testifies before the Canadian Senate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW19pPFfIyg

John R. Christy is a climate scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville (UAH) whose chief interests are satellite remote sensing of global climate and global climate change. He is best known, jointly with Roy Spencer, for the first successful development of a satellite temperature record.
He is a distinguished professor of atmospheric science, and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He was appointed Alabama's state climatologist in 2000. For his development of a global temperature data set from satellites he was awarded NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement, and the American Meteorological Society's "Special Award." In 2002, Christy was elected Fellow of the American Meteorological Society.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMc8XRw226A

Murry Salby, chair of climate at Macquarie, and author of a grad textbook on atmospheric physics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrI03ts--9I


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Quote:Computer models utterly fail to predict climate changes
http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/computer-models-utterly-fail-to-predict-climate-changes/
From the Financial Post, an editorial by Ross McKitrick of the University of Guelph. He is an expert reviewer for the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. (H/T ECM)

Excerpt:

[I]n 2008 and 2010, a team of hydrologists at the National Technical University of Athens published a pair of studies comparing long-term (100-year) temperature and precipitation trends in a total of 55 locations around the world to model projections. The models performed quite poorly at the annual level, which was not surprising. What was more surprising was that they also did poorly even when averaged up to the 30-year scale, which is typically assumed to be the level they work best at. They also did no better over larger and larger regional scales. The authors concluded that there is no basis for the claim that climate models are well-suited for long-term predictions over large regions.

A 2011 study in the Journal of Forecasting took the same data set and compared model predictions against a “random walk” alternative, consisting simply of using the last period’s value in each location as the forecast for the next period’s value in that location. The test measures the sum of errors relative to the random walk. A perfect model gets a score of zero, meaning it made no errors. A model that does no better than a random walk gets a score of 1. A model receiving a score above 1 did worse than uninformed guesses. Simple statistical forecast models that have no climatology or physics in them typically got scores between 0.8 and 1, indicating slight improvements on the random walk, though in some cases their scores went as high as 1.8.

The climate models, by contrast, got scores ranging from 2.4 to 3.7, indicating a total failure to provide valid forecast information at the regional level, even on long time scales. The authors commented: “This implies that the current [climate] models are ill-suited to localized decadal predictions, even though they are used as inputs for policymaking.”

Indeed. Nor is the problem confined just to a few models. In a 2010 paper, a co-author and I looked at how well an average formed from all 23 climate models used for the 2007 IPCC report did at explaining the spatial pattern of temperature trends on land after 1979, compared with a rival model that all the experts keep telling me should have no explanatory power at all: the regional pattern of socioeconomic growth. Any effects from those factors, I have been told many times, are removed from the climate data before it is published. And yet I keep finding the socioeconomic patterns do a very good job of explaining the patterns of temperature trends over land. In our 2010 paper we showed that the climate models, averaged together, do very poorly, while the socioeconomic data does quite well.

The computer models have to be able to predict changes in specific regions, otherwise we have no reason to trust that they are accurate. We have to be able to evaluate whether the models work by testing them. When we can test them to predict climate change in specific regions, they fail.



Freeman John Dyson FRS theoretical physicist and mathematician, famous for his work in quantum electrodynamics, solid-state physics, astronomy and nuclear engineering. Dyson is a member of the Board of Sponsors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
Although Dyson has won numerous scientific awards, he has never won a Nobel Prize, which has led Nobel physics laureate Steven Weinberg to state that the Nobel committee has "fleeced" Dyson. Dyson has said that “I think it’s almost true without exception if you want to win a Nobel Prize, you should have a long attention span, get hold of some deep and important problem and stay with it for 10 years. That wasn’t my style.”

Freeman Dyson on Global Warming 1of2 Bogus Climate Models
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSxubKfTBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k69HUuyI5Mk

Nils-Axel Mörner is the former head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University. He retired in 2005. He was president of the International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) Commission on Neotectonics (1981–1989). He headed the INTAS (International Association for the promotion of cooperation with scientists from the New Independent States of the former Soviet Union) Project on Geomagnetism and Climate (1997–2003). He is a critic of the IPCC and the notion that the global sea level is rising. He was formerly the Chairman of INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution, and led the Maldives Sea Level Project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUObjw9wQKc

Climate Models versus Reality: Part I
http://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/fp_june12_models_i.pdf

Climate Models versus Reality: Part II
http://www.rossmckitrick.com/uploads/4/8/0/8/4808045/fp_june12_models_ii.pdf

Syun-Ichi Akasofu is the Founding Director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF), serving in that position from the center's establishment in 1998 until January 2007. Previously he had been director of the university's Geophysical Institute from 1986.
Akasofu earned a B.S. and a M.S. in geophysics at Tohoku University, Sendai, Japan, in 1953 and 1957. respectively. He earned a Ph.D in geophysics at UAF in 1961. Within the framework of his Ph.D. thesis he studied the aurora. His scientific adviser was Sydney Chapman. Akasofu has been a professor of geophysics at UAF since 1964.

Akasofu was director of the Geophysical Institute from 1986 until 1999, during which time the Alaska Volcano Observatory was established and Poker Flat Research Range was modernized. He went on to become the first director of the International Arctic Research Center (IARC) upon its establishment in 1998, and remained in that position until 2007. The same year, the building which houses IARC was named in his honor.

Akasofu has served as an Associate Editor of the Journal of Geophysical Research (1972–74) and the Journal of Geomagnetism & Geoelectricity (1972–present), respectively. Furthermore, he has served as a member of the Editorial Advisory Board of the Planetary Space Science (1969–present), the Editorial Advisory Board of Space Science Reviews (1967–77), and the Editorial Committee of Space Science Reviews (1977–present).

He is an ISI highly cited researcher("ISI Highly Cited" is a database of "highly cited researchers"—scientific researchers whose publications are most often cited in academic journals over the past decade, published by the Institute for Scientific Information. Inclusion in this list is taken as a measure of the esteem of these academics and is used, for example, by the Academic Ranking of World Universities.)

Syun Akasofu
International Arctic Research Center
University of Alaska Fairbanks
Fairbanks, AK 99775-7340

The global average temperature stopped increasing after 2000 against the IPCC’s prediction of continued rapid increase. It is a plain fact and does not require any pretext. Their failure stems from the fact that the IPCC emphasized the greenhouse effect of CO2 by slighting the natural causes of temperature changes.

The changes of the global average temperature during the last century and the first decade of the present century can mostly be explained by two natural causes, a linear increase which began in about 1800 and the multi-decadal oscillation superposed on the linear increase. There is not much need for introducing the CO2 effect in the temperature changes. The linear increase is the recovery (warming) from the Little Ice Age (LIA), which the earth experienced from about 1400 to 1800.

The halting of the temperature rise during the first decade of the present century can naturally be explained by the fact that the linear increase has been overwhelmed by the superposed multi-decadal oscillation which peaked in about 2000.*

This situation is very similar to the multi-decadal temperature decrease from 1940 to 1975 after the rise from 1910 to 1940 (in spite of the fact that CO2 increased rapidly after 1946); it was predicted at that time that a new Big Ice Age was on its way.

The IPCC seems to imply that the halting is a temporary one. However, they cannot give the reason. Several recent trends, including the phase of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), the halting of sea level increase, and the cooling of the Arctic Ocean, indicate that the halting is likely to be due to the multi-decadal change.

The high temperatures predicted by the IPCC in 2100 (+2~6°C) are simply an extension of the observed increase from 1975 to 2000, which was caused mainly by the multi-decadal oscillation. The Global Climate Models (GCMs) are programmed to reproduce the observed increase from 1975 to 2000 in terms of the CO2 effect and to extend the reproduced curve to 2100.

It is advised that the IPCC recognize at least the failure of their prediction even during the first decade of the present century; a prediction is supposed to become less accurate for the longer future.

For details, see http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~sakasofu

Two Natural Components of the Recent Climate Change:
(1) The Recovery from the Little Ice Age
(A Possible Cause of Global Warming)
and
(2) The Multi-decadal Oscillation
(The Recent Halting of the Warming)

Revised April 30, 2009

Syun-Ichi Akasofu
International Arctic Research Center
University of Alaska Fairbanks
http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~sakasofu/pdf/two_natural_components_recent_climate_change.pdf

Nir Shaviv is an Israeli‐American physics professor, carrying out research in the fields of astrophysics and climate science. He is currently an associate professor at the Racah Institute of Physics of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Quote:A few years ago if you would ask me I would tell you it's CO2. Why? Because just like everyone else in the public I listened to what the media had to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1n2oq-XIxI

Henrik Svensmark (born 1958) is a physicist at the Danish National Space Center in Copenhagen who studies the effects of cosmic rays on cloud formation. His work presents hypotheses about solar activity as an indirect cause of global warming; his research has suggested a possible link through the interaction of the solar wind and cosmic rays.

Henrik Svensmark is director of the Center for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish Space Research Institute (DSRI), a part of the Danish National Space Center. He previously headed the sun-climate group at DSRI. He held postdoctoral positions in physics at three other organizations: University of California, Berkeley, Nordic Institute for Theoretical Physics, and the Niels Bohr Institute.

In 1997, Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen popularised a theory that linked galactic cosmic rays and global climate change mediated primarily by variations in the intensity of the solar wind, which they have termed cosmoclimatology.
Svensmark's research downplays the significance to which atmospheric CO2 has affected recent global warming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxstzCXSMH0

Reid Bryson was an American atmospheric scientist, geologist and meteorologist. He was a professor emeritus of the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He completed a B.A. in geology at Denison University in 1941 and a Ph.D. in meteorology from University of Chicago in 1948. In 1946 he joined the faculty of the University of Wisconsin–Madison, and in 1948 he became the first chairman of the Department of Meteorology. He became the first director of the Institute for Environmental Studies in 1970.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzYfJP-HWcQ

Svensmark: The Cloud Mystery
Henrik Svensmark's documentary on climate change and cosmic rays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMTPF1blpQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFImb5gy7SE
Dr. Jasper Kirkby talks about the results of the study that indicates solar activity has played a larger role in climate change than the global warming alarmists would like us to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPNt30zKA-A

Jasper Kirkby (speaker) (CERN)
CERN. Geneva
(CERN Colloquium) on 2009-06-04T16:30:00
The current understanding of climate change in the industrial age is that it is predominantly caused by anthropogenic greenhouse gases, with relatively small natural contributions due to solar irradiance and volcanoes. However, palaeoclimatic reconstructions show that the climate has frequently varied on 100-year time scales during the Holocene (last 10 kyr) by amounts comparable to the present warming - and yet the mechanism or mechanisms are not understood. Some of these reconstructions show clear associations with solar variability, which is recorded in the light radio-isotope archives that measure past variations of cosmic ray intensity. However, despite the increasing evidence of its importance, solar-climate variability is likely to remain controversial until a physical mechanism is established. Estimated changes of solar irradiance on these time scales appear to be too small to account for the climate observations. This raises the question of whether cosmic rays may directly affect the climate, providing an effective indirect solar forcing mechanism. Indeed recent satellite observations - although disputed - suggest that cosmic rays may affect clouds. This talk presents an overview of the palaeoclimatic evidence for solar/cosmic ray forcing of the climate, and reviews the possible physical mechanisms. These will be investigated in the CLOUD experiment which begins to take data at the CERN PS later this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygk98kEQfk


Sallie Baliunas is an astrophysicist formerly affiliated with the Mount Wilson Institute. Her awards include the Newton Lacey Pierce Prize by the American Astronomical Society, the Petr Beckman Award for Scientific Freedom and the Bok Prize from Harvard University. In 1991 Discover magazine profiled her as one of America's outstanding women scientists.
Cosmic Rays, Dusty Debris & Other Exo-Terrestrial Effects on the Environment | Dr. Sallie Baliunas M.A., Ph.D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJlyrVu8ARY


Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences (ATOC) at the University of Colorado

Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen is a lecturer in the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at the University of Colorado, a member of the American Meteorological Society and has worked with the National Center for Atmospheric Research. Keen specializes in volcanic aerosols and climate change studies

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Robert C. Balling, Jr. is a professor of geography at Arizona State University, and the former director of its Office of Climatology. His research interests include climatology, global climate change, and geographic information systems. Balling has declared himself one of the scientists who oppose the consensus on global warming, arguing in a 2009 book that anthropogenic global warming "is indeed real, but relatively modest", and maintaining that there is a publication bias in the scientific literature.
Balling gained bachelors and masters degrees in geography in 1974 (Wittenberg University, BA) and 1975 (Bowling Green State University, MA), before gaining his Ph.D. in geography from the University of Oklahoma in 1979. He was assistant professor at the University of Nebraska (1979 - 1984), before joining the Office of Climatology at Arizona State University. He gained tenure there in 1987, and served as the director of the Office of Climatology until 2004.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4aIMUwtt24

Patrick J. Michaels, Senior Fellow in Environmental Studies, Cato Institute, Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia
Patrick J. is an American climatologist. Michaels is a senior research fellow for Research and Economic Development at George Mason University, and a senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute. Until 2007 he was research professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, where he had worked from 1980.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_khKrIzKX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZx5c_8I0NI

William Aaron Nierenberg (February 13, 1919 – September 10, 2000) was an American physicist who worked on the Manhattan Project and was director of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography from 1965 through 1986. He was a co-founder of the George C. Marshall Institute in 1984.

In 1948 Nierenberg took up his first academic staff position, as Assistant Professor of Physics at the University of Michigan. From 1950 to 1965 he was Associate and then Professor of Physics at the University of California, Berkeley, where he had a very large and productive low energy nuclear physics laboratory, graduating 40 PhD’s during this time and publishing about 100 papers. During that period he took a one-year leave to serve as the director of the Columbia University Hudson Laboratory. Later, he oversaw the design and construction of the “new” physics building at Berkeley. Much later (1960–1962) he took leave once again as Assistant Secretary General of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in charge of scientific affairs, where he oversaw many international studies on physics and advanced defense technologies.

In 1965 Nierenberg was asked to run one of the most prestigious oceanographic institution in the world, the Scripps Institution of Oceanography (SIO). His background in sonar research and other naval-related science, his knowledge of and interest in geophysics dating from his college times and his many friendships in the community made him intellectually and professionally eager to go. By then he had also developed the many necessary international relationships. As SIO’s longest serving director, he quadrupled the funding for the institution and developed a fleet of five modern research vessels.

Nierenberg gained national recognition for his achievements and contributions to science. In 1965, he was elected to the National Academy of Sciences and to the Council of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) in 1979. He was also elected to the National Academy of Engineering, and the National Academy of Arts and Sciences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSKNR4wfIkc


David Russell Legates is a Professor of Geography at the University of Delaware. He is the former Director of the Center for Climatic Research at the same university, and a former Delaware State Climatologist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30IWpc7qZig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpEwNpd2_qM

Philip Stott is a professor emeritus of biogeography at the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, and a former editor (1987–2004) of the Journal of Biogeography.
Stott regards himself as a Humeian 'mitigated sceptic' on the subject of global warming. He has not published scholarly articles in the field of climate change, although he has published books on the subject. Also, he has researched on the construction of environmental knowledge, including global warming as a Barthesian myth, for over thirty years.

Stott has been critical of terms like 'climate sceptic' and 'climate-change denier'; he believes in a distinction between the science of climate change and what he asserts is the Barthesian myth of global warming, saying,

"... the global warming myth harks back to a lost Golden Age of climate stability, or, to employ a more modern term, climate 'sustainability'. Sadly, the idea of a sustainable climate is an oxymoron. The fact that we have rediscovered climate change at the turn of the Millennium tells us more about ourselves, and about our devices and desires, than about climate. Opponents of global warming are often snidely referred to as 'climate change deniers'; precisely the opposite is true. Those who question the myth of global warming are passionate believers in climate change - it is the global warmers who deny that climate change is the norm." (see also his essay on environmental change and La Brea.)

Stott is also critical of organizations like the IPCC.

His attitude to climate change is best summed up in a central passage from a letter published in The Daily Telegraph (June 10, 2005):

"Climate change has to be broken down into three questions: 'Is climate changing and in what direction?' 'Are humans influencing climate change, and to what degree?' And: 'Are humans able to manage climate change predictably by adjusting one or two factors out of the thousands involved?' The most fundamental question is: 'Can humans manipulate climate predictably?' Or, more scientifically: 'Will cutting carbon dioxide emissions at the margin produce a linear, predictable change in climate?' The answer is 'No'. In so complex a coupled, non-linear, chaotic system as climate, not doing something at the margins is as unpredictable as doing something. This is the cautious science; the rest is dogma."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtPDuZzfzhw
Playlist for all ten parts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6t2D74UcrY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL3B1435BE8F452ECE

Professor Cliff Ollier is a geologist, geomorphologist, soil scientist, emeritus professor and honorary research fellow, at the School of Earth and Geographical Sciences University of Western Australia. He was formerly at Australian National University, University of New England, Australia, Canberra University, University of Papua New Guinea, and University of Melbourne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEfriG06Xt4
Why the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets are Not Collapsing
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/OllierPaine-NoIceSheetCollapse-AIGNewsAug.2009.pdf


Chris de Freitas is an Associate Professor in the School of Environment at the University of Auckland in New Zealand.
De Freitas received both his Bachelors and his Masters at the University of Toronto, Canada, after which he earned his Ph.D. as a Commonwealth Scholar from the University of Queensland, Australia. During his time at the University of Auckland, he has served as Deputy Dean of Science, Head of Science and Technology, and for four years as Pro Vice Chancellor. He is Vice President of the Meteorological Society of New Zealand and is a founding member of the Australia-New Zealand Climate Forum as well as serving on the Executive Board of the International Society of Biometeorology from 1999-2001.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnlC4NMLr8E

David H. Douglass is an American physicist at the University of Rochester. Prof. Douglass received his B.S. in Physics from the University of Maine and his Ph.D. in Physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After positions at MIT Lincoln Laboratories and MIT, he was appointed Assistant Professor of Physics at the University of Chicago. At Chicago, he was promoted to Associate Professor and Professor. Prof. Douglass joined the University of Rochester as a Professor of Physics in 1968. Prof. Douglass was a recipient of the Alfred P. Sloan Award (junior) for 4 years, the Alfred P. Sloan Award (senior), and the University of Rochester's Bridging Fellowship to the Eastman School of Music. He is a Fellow of the American Physical Society and the New York Academy of Sciences.

Prof. Douglass interests have been in the general area of Experimental Condensed Matter Physics. His work has involved experiments in the areas of liquid helium and superconductivity (both low temperature and high temperature). Significant contributions have also been made in the field of gravitational wave detectors. Prof. Douglass has also worked on chaos and frequency drifts of spectral lines of extended sources. His interests for the last several years have been on climate change, in particular with the fundamental science issues underlying "global warming".

A 2007 paper by Douglass and coworkers questioned the reliability of 22 of the most commonly used global climate models analyzed by Benjamin D. Santer and used by the IPCC to predict accelerated warming in the troposphere.
David Douglass: Two Climate Questions
video lecture
http://www.viddler.com/v/5c29ea3e

R. Timothy Patterson is a professor of geology at Carleton University, where he is Director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Centre in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He is also a Senior Visiting Fellow in the School of Geography, Queen's University of Belfast, Northern Ireland. He holds a B.Sc. in Biology, B.A. in Geology, both from Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia and a Ph.D. in geology from the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA).

Patterson serves as Canadian leader of UNESCO International Geological Correlation Program (IGCP) Project 495 "Quaternary Land-Ocean interactions", which is mandated to study the record of sea level change past and future and has been Principal Investigator of large Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC) and Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences (CFCAS) projects, examining high-resolution climate records from marine basins off the west coast of Canada.

He was a founding editor of the journal Palaeontologia Electronica (Executive Editor, 1998–2000), is presently Associate Editor for the Journal of Foraminiferal Research and is past associate editor of the journal Micropaleontology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SN1-vwBVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIkQL6K8uY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3MIRroP5cA


Canada: IPCC 2007 Expert Reviewer Madhav Khandekar, a Ph.D meteorologist, a scientist with the Natural Resources Stewardship Project who has over 45 years experience in climatology, meteorology and oceanography, and who has published nearly 100 papers, reports, book reviews and a book on Ocean Wave Analysis and Modeling: “To my dismay, IPCC authors ignored all my comments and suggestions for major changes in the FOD (First Order Draft) and sent me the SOD (Second Order Draft) with essentially the same text as the FOD. None of the authors of the chapter bothered to directly communicate with me (or with other expert reviewers with whom I communicate on a regular basis) on many issues that were raised in my review. This is not an acceptable scientific review process.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUsQSwQKEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnuUSEC4zMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjqcQnyLGGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP0tKlYkEZA

Quote:France: Climatologist Dr. Marcel Leroux, former professor at Université Jean Moulin and director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risks, and Environment in Lyon, is a climate skeptic. Leroux wrote a 2005 book titled Global Warming – Myth or Reality? - The Erring Ways of Climatology. “Day after day, the same mantra - that ‘the Earth is warming up’ - is churned out in all its forms. As ‘the ice melts’ and ‘sea level rises,’ the Apocalypse looms ever nearer! Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, lulled into mindless ac­ceptance. ... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... fortunately for them, the Inquisition is no longer with us!”



Marcel Leroux was a French climatologist, a former Professor of Climatology at Jean Moulin University in Lyon, France, and director of the Laboratory of Climatology, Risk, and Environment.

Leroux argues in his book "Global Warming: Myth or Reality? The Erring Ways of Climatology" that the case for global warming is based on models which, with their insufficiencies in the understanding and explanation of weather phenomena, are not reliable to support this prediction. He also poses the question if warming may be considered a benefit in some regions.

On the causes of climate change, he writes in a section entitled "Conclusion: The greenhouse effect is not the cause of climate change": "The possible causes, then, of climate change are: well-established orbital parameters on the palaeoclimatic scale, with climatic consequences slowed by the inertial effect of glacial accumulations; solar activity, thought by some to be responsible for half of the 0.6°C rise in temperature, and by others to be responsible for all of it, which situation certainly calls for further analysis; volcanism and its associated aerosols (and especially sulphates), whose (short-term) effects are indubitable; and far at the rear, the greenhouse effect, and in particular that caused by water vapor, the extent of its influence being unknown. These factors are working together all the time, and it seems difficult to unravel the relative importance of their respective influences upon climatic evolution. Equally, it is tendentious to highlight the anthropic factor, which is, clearly, the least credible among all those previously mentioned."



Nicola Scafetta is a research scientist at Duke University Physics Department. His research interests are in theoretical and applied statistics and nonlinear models of complex processes. He has published peer-reviewed papers in journals covering a wide variety of disciplines, including astronomy, biology, climatology, economics, medicine, physics and sociology.

Solar Activity and Climate
Nicola Scafetta, ACRIM & Duke University

The climate oscillations: analysis, implications and their astronomical origin.
Abstract:
During the last century the global surface temperature has warmed by about 0.8 OC. General Circulation Model (GCM) simulations have been used to interpret the observed global warming and have concluded that most of it, more than 90% according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), has been induced by anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions such as CO2, as a consequence of the industrial development of the world. This is known as the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory. The same GCMs produce alarming estimate projections for the 21st century and these theoretical results are currently used for suggesting global climate change mitigation policies.

However, numerous recent studies are challenging the validity of the AGW and the accuracy of the current GCMs by suggesting that natural climate changes may have been seriously underestimated. Herein, we will review some of these new results by showing evidence that climate is regulated by multiple chaotic quasi-periodic natural cycles at all time scales. We will focus on decadal, secular and millennial time scales.

We will show that several global surface temperature records since 1850 and astronomical records deduced from the orbits of the planets present very similar power spectra. Eleven frequencies with period between 5 and 100 years closely correspond in the terrestrial and astronomical records. Among them, large climate oscillations with peak-to-trough amplitude of about 0.1 K and 0.2 K, and periods of about 20 and 60 years, respectively, are synchronized to the orbital periods of Jupiter and Saturn. Schwabe and Hale solar cycles are also visible in the temperature records. At least a 9.1-year cycle is synchronized to the Moon's orbital cycles. On multi-secular and millenarian time scales other astronomical cycles appear to be synchronized with known solar activity and the most recent paleoclimate temperature reconstructions. A phenomenological model based on these astronomical cycles can be used to well reconstruct the temperature oscillations since 1850 and to make partial forecasts for the 21st century. It is found that about 60%
of the global warming observed since 1970 has been induced by the combined effect of the 20 and 60-year natural climate oscillations and about 50% of the trending of the secular warming since 1850 has been induced by multi-secular and millennial natural cycles. A partial forecast for the 21st century is proposed. It suggests that climate may stabilize or
cool in the following decades. The empirical solar/planetary model is shown to outperform typical IPCC GCMs in reconstructing climate oscillations and suggests that these models are missing fundamental mechanisms that have their physical origin and their ultimate justification in astronomical phenomena, and in interplanetary and solar-planetary interaction physics.

N. Scafetta, “Empirical evidence for a celestial origin of the climate oscillations and its implications”. Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics (2010), doi:10.1016/j.jastp.2010.04.015

N. Scafetta, “Climate Change and Its Causes, A Discussion About Some Key Issues”, Nicola Scafetta, SPPI original paper, March 4 (2010).

N. Scafetta, “Empirical analysis of the solar contribution to global mean air surface temperature change,” Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics 71, 1916–1923 (2009), doi:10.1016/j.jastp.2009.07.007.

http://vimeo.com/30120065

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKOvszg8PXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp0Bjxensd0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdaBZfuX3Z0

MIT Professor Reginald E. Newell of Arlington, Mass., a meteorologist whose research concentrated on global air pollution and on the energy, momentum and mass balances of the climate system.

Professor Newell, 71, earned his B.Sc. in 1954 from the University of Birmingham in the United Kingdom, where he was born and raised. Upon graduation, he came to MIT as a research assistant in meteorology and received the S.M. (1956) and Sc.D. (1960).

He was an assistant professor in the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences (EAPS) from 1961 to 1966 and an associate professor from 1966 to 1969, when he became a full professor. Professor Newell taught courses on the physics of the upper atmosphere, on past and present climate, and on global air pollution.

In 1970, he turned his attention to climate problems and worked on factors controlling mass climatic fluctuations for the previous 40 years, as well as on the physics of the ice ages. He also began work on the effects of changing carbon dioxide concentrations on atmospheric heating rates and on the global circulation of carbon monoxide. When it became clear that climatic fluctuations were closely related to sea surface temperature (SST), he began studies of global SST patterns.

In 1969, he warned a Massachusetts legislative committee that Boston would develop serious smog problems similar to Los Angeles if automobile traffic were not curtailed. Three years later, he suggested that a harbor tunnel be constructed for rail traffic from Logan Airport to New York on trains that traveled at 100-120 miles per hour.

During the 1980s and 1990s, he participated in NASA Stratosphere-Troposphere Exchange Program experiments over Australia, investigating how the circulation in that region interacts with the ocean and carries air from the troposphere to the stratosphere. Professor Newell acted as a mission meteorologist for the NASA DC-8 Pacific Exploratory Missions to the west Pacific in 1991 and 1994 and flew again with NASA to the tropical Pacific in 1996. He was involved in another joint international aircraft experiment in 1997.

Professor Newell was a member of the Measure of Air Pollution by Satellites (MAPS) team that measured carbon monoxide from space. He also participated in two 1994 space shuttle experiments that showed the relationship between column carbon monoxide measured in the shuttle and surface layer convergence patterns.

Professor Newell served as president of the International Association for Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics (IAMAP) International Commission on Climate from 1977 to 1983 and was a member of the IAMAP Commissions on Meteorology of the Upper Atmosphere and Atmospheric Chemistry and Global Pollution from 1971 to 1983. His honors include the 1985 Alexander Von Humboldt Award and the Japan International Science and Technology Agency Fellowship in 1990.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofFShSlv8eA
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11-18-2012, 02:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-18-2012, 02:28 PM by CSIWEMBLEY.)
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Global Warming (or for the last ten years, cooling) IS NOT CAUSED BY HUMANS !! period.

Its a natural cycle ... CO2 is required for us to beath !! WTF ..... PLANTS BREATH CO2 TO GIVE US OXYGEN !!
Above all else, unto thine own self be true!

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11-19-2012, 01:58 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-19-2012, 02:11 AM by macfadden.)
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Quote:So where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3.000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.

That anything-but-scientific survey asked two questions. The first: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?” Few would be expected to dispute this…the planet began thawing out of the “Little Ice Age” in the middle 19th century, predating the Industrial Revolution. (That was the coldest period since the last real Ice Age ended roughly 10,000 years ago.)

The second question asked: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?” So what constitutes “significant”? Does “changing” include both cooling and warming… and for both “better” and “worse”? And which contributions…does this include land use changes, such as agriculture and deforestation?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/07/17/that-scientific-global-warming-consensus-not/

The origin of the claim of “consensus”

(11-18-2012, 02:27 PM)CSIWEMBLEY Wrote: Global Warming (or for the last ten years, cooling) IS NOT CAUSED BY HUMANS !! period.

Its a natural cycle ... CO2 is required for us to beath !! WTF ..... PLANTS BREATH CO2 TO GIVE US OXYGEN !!

> There is indeed a consensus that humankind is putting large quantities of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere; that some warming has resulted; and that some further warming can be expected. However, there is less of a consensus about whether most of the past half-century’s warming is anthropogenic.<



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12-07-2012, 01:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-07-2012, 01:14 AM by Watchdog.)
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In my former life, I was hired as a post-doctoral by a research institute to determine the impacts of climate change in the forest ecosystem. Worked on the project for three years on a team with several scientists; we were the “experts”. To make a long story short, I learned that the research money (over 1 million $) was given to us as long as we assumed that the climate was warming due to human activity, and that we use computer simulation data from Global Circulation Models as the starting point of our assessments. As such, I had to learn in details everything about GCM’s and then build my own ecosystem climate driven sub-models to predict impact of future climate on forest dynamics.

One thing everyone needs to understand is that several premises are needed to calibrate and parameterise GCM’s, and that these premises are NOT scientific, but subjective determinations about our BELIEFS of how societies on earth will evolve in the future. These are called Emission Scenarios (SRES) and were formulated by the IPCC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Report_on_Emissions_Scenarios

SRES is just one of the problems as the GCM’s are all flawed for several reasons, one being the water vapour submodels (clouds). As you may or may not know, water vapour is the BIGGEST greenhouse gas (if one can say). CO2 is nothing (small percentage of the atmosphere) while water vapour is KEY (the sun being another key driver that is not accounted for...).

To make a story short, I “did my job”, but never believed in what I was doing. So after three years, and while my research was being applauded by industry, universities, and even was accepted by peer review journals in Climate Science, I quit. That’s right, I told the editors that I no longer wanted to publish and told my boss that I quit my job. I was disgusted by everything I learned and how all the other scientists were “playing along”. Either they were brainwashed beyond repair, or scientific prostitutes.

To make another story short, once I quit I starting researching more into the “climate change” agenda and it became clear to me that global warming had nothing to do with humans, if only that some twisted humans wanted to create a fear mongering campaign to create an economic and social slavery system based on guilt and fear. Needless to say I never practised science again and never will. I lost many friends, but then again I no longer feel the need to have zombie friends that pray at the religious alter of science, or that praise Babylon.

That was my own personal experience with the climate change agenda.

I'm not a climate change denier, I know climate changes for a fact. I expose the lies, hypocrisie, and shine a light on the hidden agenda.
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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12-07-2012, 03:41 AM,
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(12-07-2012, 01:11 AM)Watchdog Wrote: ...I learned that the research money (over 1 million $) was given to us as long as we assumed that the climate was warming due to human activity,

Interesting. Did you know where the funding originated from? Was it one of the big foundations?
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12-07-2012, 11:22 PM,
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(12-07-2012, 03:41 AM)CharliePrime Wrote:
(12-07-2012, 01:11 AM)Watchdog Wrote: ...I learned that the research money (over 1 million $) was given to us as long as we assumed that the climate was warming due to human activity,

Interesting. Did you know where the funding originated from? Was it one of the big foundations?

It was a large forest companie in Alberta that wanted to demonstrate to the government that Climate Change was going to reek havoc in the forest, and therefore new policy should be written so that the company wouldn't get blamed for loss of biodiversity (for example).

Forest companies understand how they can use the climate change agenda to disperse blame and change policy.
Paix, Amour et Lumiere
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12-08-2012, 04:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-08-2012, 04:06 AM by CharliePrime.)
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That is unexpected. I thought your benefactor would be one of the big corporate "non-profit" foundations; Ford, Gates, Soros, et al.

Naive me. The Climate Change grift has many uses! Smile
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12-08-2012, 10:37 AM,
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RE: "Climate Deniers" - the myth of consensus
one thing is for sure, when an issue comes along, big business will exploit it for profit. true or false, this is always the case.
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02-25-2013, 11:50 AM,
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RE: "Climate Deniers" - the myth of consensus
Unlikely Skeptic: A Liberal Environmentalist challenges Global Warming Theory



Dr. Denis Rancourt speaks to Marc Morano on his views on the politics and science of global warming. "They look to comfortable lies" says Rancort with regard to global warming believers.
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02-28-2013, 07:39 PM,
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03-20-2013, 08:50 PM,
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TED talk - Allan Savory: How to green the desert and reverse climate change



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