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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls for new world order
09-26-2012, 10:34 AM,
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls for new world order
Quote: In a wide ranging interview with The Associated Press on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly - his last as president of Iran, he also discussed solutions for the Syrian civil war, dismissed the question of Iran's nuclear ambition and claimed that despite Western sanctions his country is better off than it was when he took office in 2005.

"God willing, a new order will come together and we'll do away with everything that distances us," Mr Ahmadinejad said, speaking through a translator. "I do believe the system of empires has reached the end of the road. The world can no longer see an emperor commanding it."

"Now even elementary school kids throughout the world have understood that the United States government is following an international policy of bullying," he said.

President Barack Obama warned Iran earlier Tuesday that time is running out to resolve the dispute over its nuclear program. In a speech to the General Assembly, Obama said the United States could not tolerate an Iran with atomic weapons.

Mr Ahmadinejad would not respond directly to the president's remarks, saying he did not want to influence the US presidential election in November.

But he argued that the international outcry over Iran's nuclear enrichment program was just an excuse by the West to dominate his country. He claimed that the United States has never accepted Iran's choice of government after the 1979 Islamic revolution.

"Everyone is aware the nuclear issue is the imposition of the will of the United States," he said. "I see the nuclear issue as a non-issue. It has become a form of one-upmanship."

Mr Ahmadinejad said he favored more dialogue, even though negotiations with world powers remain stalled after three rounds of high-level meetings since April.

He said some world leaders have suggested to him that Iran would be better off holding nuclear talks only with the United States.

"Of course I am not dismissing such talks," he said, asked if he were open to discussions with the winner of the American presidential election.

Israeli leaders, however, are still openly contemplating military action again Iranian nuclear facilities, dismissing diplomacy as a dead end. Israel and many in the West suspect that Iran is seeking to acquire nuclear weapons, and cite its failure to cooperate fully with nuclear inspectors. Iran says its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.

Mr Ahmadinejad also proposed forming a new group of 10 or 11 countries to work to end the 18-month Syrian civil war. Representatives of the nations in the Middle East and elsewhere would meet in New York "very soon," he said.

Critics have accused Tehran of giving support to Syrian President Bashar Assad in carrying out massacres and other human rights violations in an attempt to crush the uprising against his rule. Activists say nearly 30,000 people have died.

He said the so-called contact group hopes to get the Syrian government and opposition to sit across from each other.

"I will do everything in my power to create stability, peace and understanding in Syria," Ahmadinejad said.

Earlier this month, Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi announced the formation of a four-member contact group with Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia so far has not participated.

He denied Iranian involvement in plotting attacks on Israelis abroad, despite arrests and accusations by police in various countries. He also vehemently disputed the U.S. claim that Iranian agents played a role in a foiled plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the United States last year.

Mr Ahmadinejad will leave office next June after serving two four-year terms. He threw out numbers and statistics during the interview to show that Iran's economy and the lives of average Iranians have improved under his watch. Since his 2005 election, he claimed, Iran went from being the world's 22nd-largest economy to the 17th-largest; non-petroleum related exports increased sevenfold; and the basic production of goods has doubled. Median income increased by $4,000, he said.

"Today's conditions in Iran are completely different to where they were seven years ago in the economy, in technical achievement, in scientific know-how," Ahmadinejad said. "All of these achievements, though, have been reached under conditions in which we were brought under heavy sanctions."

Iran has called for the U.S. and its European allies to ease the sanctions that have hit its critical oil exports and left it blackballed from key international banking networks.

Mr Ahmadinejad said he had no knowledge of the whereabouts of Robert Levinson, a private investigator and former FBI agent who vanished in Iran five years ago. He said he directed Iranian intelligence services two years ago to work with their counterparts in the US to locate him.

"And if any help there is that I can bring to bear, I would be happy to do so," he said.

He also claimed never to have heard of Amir Hekmati, a former U.S. Marine who is imprisoned on espionage charges in Iran. Hekmati was arrested while visiting his grandmothers in Iran in August 2011, and his family has been using Ahmadinejad's visit to New York to plead for his release.
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09-26-2012, 07:39 PM,
RE: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls for new world order
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I really don't think he's speaking of a new world order in the sense that most of us think of it, just embracing a less combative way of doing things, with less imposition of the US government in the world's affairs.
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09-27-2012, 06:24 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-17-2012, 03:24 PM by Negentropic.)
RE: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls for new world order
I've said it here before and I'll say it again, all you guys have to do is look beyond the rhetoric to the economic situation in the country itself.

A real Anti-JWO leader almost always BENEFITS his people IN ADDITION to being Anti-JWO in action, such as rejecting usury and a central bank. You can't just reject usury and a central bank & then have your own central bank issue your own fiat money and fuck up your whole country with 30 years of double digit inflation, mass unemployment, mass drug-addiction, medieval laws that make women only half the worth of a man, etc. That's what these Khomeini disciples have done and it's not an accident, you know why?

Here's why:

"They [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: and enough, too, in their opinion." ~ Thomas Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, Sept. 23, 1800

Why is Thomas Jefferson against the tyranny of the clergy ?

Because economic prosperity can only happen in country where people can REASON and think and people can ONLY THINK and reason where individualism is protected to a considerable extent from group intimidation and force. There has be a tradition of individual rights in the country, the first step to which is that country has to be secular.

It is ABSOLUTELY FALSE that Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy crushed individualism and somehow succeeded in some 'collectivist,' group economic miracle. No, they used collective police action in self-defense to just put a leash on out-of-control degeneracy and criminality and the root of it all, central banking usury. Mussolini was the only guy to ever successfuly crush the friggin Mafia, I mean he just completely destroyed the Mafia. The crime rate and corruption in Italy went WAY DOWN, and yet Mussolini is considered the biggest, baddest criminal in Italian history nowadays by Jew propaganda. Mussolini's success was the model for Hitler who then went way beyond him. Friggin Ezra Pound, one of the most individualist guys who has ever lived and a total American patriot, lived in Italy under Mussolini by choice and defended the Mussolini regime. Why would he do this if Mussolini choked individualism and creativity to death ?

Similarly, it wasn't a hundred National Socialists that 'collectively' designed the Volkswagen, it was Ferdinand Porsche, in collabaoration with Hitler. It wasn't a hundred people that made "Triumph of the Will," it was Leni Riefenstahl. Same thing with Hitler's own design of the Autobahn FREE-ways and all the other inventions and copyrights, over 300,000 stolen by Stalin's allies after the war. What country can possibly produce THAT many patents and copyrights without individual thinking ? Absolutely impossible.

Where the hell are all of Islamic Iran's patents and copyrights ? Have you ever even heard of an Iranian product sold in the USA or Europe that wasn't some kind of food ?

No religious theocracy has ever produced a scientifically progressive, industrial society. Christianity did not produce the renaissance, it produced the middle ages. The renaissance was a total revolt against Christian theocratic rule.

Most of Iran's infrastructure, including the nuclear reactors were built under the Shah. The Shah's father was pro-Hitler and anti-clerical. The Shah was installed by the CIA but he falsely believed that they would play fair and let him bring his country into the industrial age if he just did what they told him to do.

Remember that the west fought many wars against communists who were all anti-imperialist, 'freedom fighters for the proletariat' in their own minds and yet the banksters in the west OWNED all the communists, ALL OF THEM, through a long leash of controlled opposition funded by themselves from the very beginning. They blow twice and Cuba will disappear anytime they want. They blow three times and so will that ridiculous paper-tiger of North Korea.

Iran is just the Islamic-Zealot version of the commies in psychological-operation terms. Instread of anti-imperialist rhetoric, they have anti-American and Anti-Jew rhetoric and just like the commies never benefited their own people one iota but took them backwards into terrible standards of living, neither do these theocracies.

It doesn't mean that Jews have the right to go in and conquer the country for themselves by sticking their USA attack dogs on them. It just means that the Iranian people should reject the JEWS first and foremost at all times but overthrow their own tyrannincal government and install a legitimate one that benefits themselves without letting the Jew in.

The sad fact is that IF they overthrew their own government and set one up a secular one like Assad's or Quaddafi's that still DID NOT allow the banksters in, they are even more likely to be attacked than now.

Crossing the street in Tehran, Iran -

Horrific Traffic Tehran Iran - and remember the light is red ! (not that anyone even bothers to stop for a red light there)

Sigheh or temporary marriages in Iran

legal organ sales in Iran/
Although they work more than 10 hours a day, many Iranians sell their organs in order to make ends meet and have a so called "normal life".

Desperate to pay off their debts, they go and sell their organs though they don't even get paid more than 500 to to a 1000 dollars and often have to wait many months after the operation to get the money

Videos like this coming out of Iran also beg the eternal question:

Who the hell lets the British Bullshit Corporation and other film-makers' cameras into these organ-sales clinics and other places to make these journalistic reports that, true or not, can so obviously serve as negative propaganda against the Islamic regime ?

All they have to do is post a couple of guards in front of the clinics and no cameras would be let in, and few negative images of desperate, miserable people selling body parts would be posted on you tube or shown by the BBC and yet, SOMEBODY in the upper ranks of the Iranian government decided that it's just fine to have this negative propaganda filmed in Iran, inside these clinics and then aired in the West.

Shah of Iran on the Jewish Lobby - 35 Yrs ago

Shah Of Iran Criticizing Britain

You've read all of Ahmedinejad's public rhetoric, now why don't you read some quotes from the Shah :

Here are a few choice ones:

"A crown, a throne could not be based on the not too very solid foundation of blood.
Who are they to try me? They should be tried first. [They are] people who are rejecting the United Nations resolutions, who are rejecting the Hague Court resolution, who are rejecting the world public opinion, who have no respect for any international law, and who are massacring people, executing people, just imprisoning thousands and thousands and thousands without any reasons. Who is going to try them?

It's always a tendency to compare our country in my time to the most perfect democracies of the world. I don't mind that. But now, what we hear is "oh let's try to understand these people, after all, Islam is something special" when what they are doing is absolutely contrary to Islam. Now, everybody is trying to say "well, let's try to understand these people", these people who are killing, massacring others, the people they don't like just like flies. But in my case it is to compare it to the most perfect government of the world.

You think that Mr Khomeini, [an] uneducated person ... could have planned all this? Masterminded all this, set up all the organization? I know that one man alone could not have done it ... I know that a tremendous amount of money was spent ... I know that top experts in propaganda were used to show us like tyrants and monsters, and the other side as democratic liberal revolutionaries who want to save the country."
~David Frost (January 1980), The Shah Speaks (video)

"Nixon has the audacity to tell me to do nothing in the interest of my country until he dictactes where that interest lies. At the same time he threatens me that failure to follow his so-called advice will be to jeopardize the special relations between our two countries. I say to hell with such special relations. " --As quoted in Asadollah Alam (1991), The Shah and I: The Confidential Diary of Iran's Royal Court, 1968-77, page 278

"We were wrong to believe that the British are our friends. You are obsessed solely with yout own selfish interests and treat us as a people beyond the pale. But your attitude is a matter of profound disinterest. Your democratic system has already erupted into chaos. We shall soon overtake you and in a decade you will be struggling in our wake. Perhaps then you will remember how you treated us." ~ As quoted in Asadollah Alam (1991), The Shah and I: The Confidential Diary of Iran's Royal Court, 1968-77, page 236

"Thank God we in Iran have neither the desire nor the need to suffer from democracy." ~As quoted in Asadollah Alam (1991), The Shah and I: The Confidential Diary of Iran's Royal Court, 1968-77, page 233

"If [the British] have the fucking audacity to advise me ever again, I shall fuck them so rigid that they'll think twice before crossing my path in future." ~ As quoted in Asadollah Alam (1991), The Shah and I: The Confidential Diary of Iran's Royal Court, 1968-77, page 173-4

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This is an ad from the 1970s purchased by a number of U.S. power companies using the Shah's nuclear power program to convince Americans of the necessity and safety of nuclear energy. How times change.

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Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lashed out at his opponents on Friday, saying they will be "thrown away" by the people, as he spoke at the 21st anniversary of the death of revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in south Tehran.

Promises Before and Results After Ayatollah Khomeini's Islamists Took Over Iran :

Ayatollah Khomeini's Gems of Islamism(Excerpts from some of the legendary Ayatollah’s books, speeches, comments):

"Ayatollah Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris & issued a fatwa decreeing that the Jews were to be protected"

Did Jews issue a 'fatwa' protecting Christians in Russia or Muslims in Palestine, Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya ? So why did Khomeini issue a fatwa on their behalf as soon as he took power ?

There were 150,000 Jews in Iran in 1948 which got reduced to 80,000 by the time of the Shah's ousting due mainly to immigration to Israel. Another 60,000 left after the revolution.

So there are only about 20,000 Jews left in Islamic Iran now who are apparently pro-Iran & anti-Israel. They must not be up to shenangians on behalf of brethren outside the country or else why would Iran tolerate even that small number when 109 countries didn't? Or pass a specific law by Khomeini himself to keep them in the country & protected ?

Hey, maybe he did it because of the 'goodness of his heart,' huh ?

If anyone believes that after reading Khomeini's own sayings and what his actions proved after the revolution, keep waiting for the Easter Bunny too, he's coming any day now.

Persian Jews comprise about a fifth of the population of Beverly Hills, California, one of the wealthiest districts in the United States (that's ONLY Persian Jews at 20% or a fifth; ALL JEWS taken together comprise at least 62% of the population of Beverly Hills, see below ***). You can bet that few if any of these wealthy Iranian expatriate Jews are likely to be Ahmedinejad supporters and yet their fellow tribe members and cousins back in Iran are fully protected by the Iranian constitution ?


The sister of Jewish comedian Roseanne Barr remembers growing up in Salt Lake City and her feelings when she her family went to the local synagogue: “In a synagogue parking lot filled with Mercedeses, Lincolns, and Cadillacs, our old Chevy stood out like a sore thumb.” Barr eventually made it big in Hollywood where many famous moguls go home at the end of the work day to nearby Beverly Hills, a famed and wealthy enclave that is largely Jewish. (According to the local Jewish Federation Council, the 1990s population of Beverly Hills was 62 percent Jewish). [Beverly Hills, notes Jewish journalist Connie Bruck, is "one of the most ostentatious displays of wealth that exists in this country, a town that spawns every excess that money can by." This city, adds Janet Steinberg, "is the quintessential symbol of opulent California life." As Jewish professor Barry Shain notes about this lifestyle: "I understand [President Bill Clinton's sex playmate] Monica Lewinsky [who was raised in Beverly Hills, and is Jewish] very well. I never knew her personally, but I went to Beverly Hills High School. I understand her moral life from my experiences growing up with those wealthy Jewish women. They look upon the world as an opportunity to amuse themselves.” There are those who think that Palm Beach, Florida, is more “decadent” than Beverly Hills. One Washington DC newspaper declared, for instance, that Palm Beach is “the wealthiest and most decadent, glamorous, and self-indulgent place on earth.” Not surprisingly, the population of metropolitan Palm Beach, too, is over 50 percent Jewish.

"I have listened with great interest to discussions regarding decentralization and centralization and I have thought that the question of whether it is valid to decentralize or centralize is unanswerable because it deals with one one-way sign in two-way traffic. It is a static question in a dynamic universe.

Man was invented a mobile device and process. He has survived through his ability to advance or retreat as his mortal requirements have dictated. Of his two primary faculties, quickness is of great importance but intellect is first.

He recognized that vital quickness may be momentary reflex but that satisfactory continuities are proportional to his degree of comprehension of the consequence of his initiative. Degree of comprehension he measures in the terms of the complex integration of all individuals' all-time experience, as processed by intellectual integrity. His quickness would be a spontaneous servant to that integrity.

Despite intermittent submissiveness to runaway momentums of residual ignorance, man guards most dearly and secretly his freedom of thought and initiative. Therefrom emanates the social-industrial relay, from self starter to group starters.

Out of this freedom alone understanding may be generated. Man recognizes understanding as an activated circuit of mutual comprehension by individual minds. Understanding must be plural. However, because individual experience is unique, understanding can be developed only in principle out of the compounding significance of plurality of experience. Thus, man knows that the voluntary interactions of understanding dealing in fundamental principles will always master involuntary mass actions, and that individual freedom ever anticipates and ultimately masters mutual emergency."

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