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Deemit - entity relation network
06-18-2012, 01:10 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-19-2012, 07:08 AM by capob.)
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Deemit - entity relation network
I've put up deemit.com. I tested it to an extent, but there might still be some bugs. Tell me what you guys think.

For those of you who have no idea what this is about, read:

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=46104&pid=244502#pid244502
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06-19-2012, 03:01 AM,
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
As I suspected and verified a long time ago: you guys are impotent!
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06-19-2012, 04:21 AM,
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
Ok then, I will give you my opinion, at the expense of making myself look like a fool. To be honest, I do not get it. Is it simply a dictionary? Is it something more and I am missing it? Frankly, as I said, I do not understand its purpose or what you are trying to achieve with it. Maybe I am overlooking the obvious and making a fool of myself, but I do not get it. Please explain what it is and the purpose thereof.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - Henry L. Mencken

I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant. - Henry L. Mencken
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06-19-2012, 04:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-19-2012, 04:42 AM by h3rm35.)
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
when you insult people, you lose prospective content generators. Also, many here might not have read the ethical companies thread, so they won´t have the slightest fucking clue what you´re talking about, just like anyone who might happen along on your site. you may have a good idea, but you seem to have no real capacity for explaining it. That´s my 1 cent, and I won´t give you another one, cause you act like an asshole.
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06-19-2012, 07:04 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-19-2012, 07:13 AM by capob.)
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
"when you insult people, you lose prospective content generators. Also, many here might not have read the ethical companies thread"

I have found that when I insult people I get a rise out of them that sometimes leads to progress.

Now to explain what this site is about. Essentially, there are two parts to this site:

1. There are direct relations. The idea is, many of us know the various relations between politicians and corporations, or between corporations and anti-moral activity, or between governments and anti-human activity. However, a lot of people dont, and a lot of us only know small portions of the relations. And so, one point of this system is to allow a community driven relation network so that people can find the relations between in terms of control and for/against factors. This way, someone might look up something like "rand paul" and see that he is "for" Mitt Romney.

2. The second part of this system is based on indirection relations. Essentially, I built an algorith that calculates and compiles indrect relations between all entities. In this manner, you might have two indrect relations :
Rand paul --> for --> Mitt Romney
and
Ron paul --> for --> Rand Paul

And the system would add an indirect relation showing Ron Paul is, to a much lesser extent (by the nature of his relation to Rand Paul) for Mitt Romney. The philosophy here is, even if a relater does not claim either publicly or conciously to be for something, if they support other entities which are for something, they are indrectly for it. This has quite a lot of potential for showing relations.

My goal here, you see, is to make a fairly reliable reference. I find that a lot of time is wasted between us in the "liberty movement" rehashing knowledge about relations. If there were this network (which now there is), and people used it, then one need only point to the network.

Now, as to people contributing, I recognize that I will likely not find many people if any at all. So, I have taken it up to hire people to add relations and I will be posting on craigslist. The idea here is to get the resource going -> once there are enough relations to be useful to people, other people may join in and add other relations.

Now, there is another issue that some of you might bring up. The issue is that with community action there is the potential for subversion and corurption. Well, let me tell you, I have built a fairly complicated "significance" system and bot detection system to prevent this.


-- PS, I am an asshole, but that doesn't negate my potential to bring about positive things.
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06-19-2012, 08:01 AM,
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
assholes bring about shit. there´s a relation for ya. good luck on your venture anyway.
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06-19-2012, 08:31 AM,
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RE: Deemit - entity relation network
(06-19-2012, 08:01 AM)h3rm35 Wrote: assholes bring about shit. there´s a relation for ya. good luck on your venture anyway.

I'll thank you for your "Also, many here might not have read the ethical companies thread", but I don't know how many people that would actually entail - > as I imagine most people viewing this would have followed that thread too. But, there, I draw the line. It is easy to speak and criticize, but when's the last time you spent 10k worth of time building something for the community. When is the last time you put your money where your mouth is, like I have many times before this?

The fact remains, this community is largely impotent. I hear so much whining and then so much talk on controvery such as whether some holographic plane was used on the twin towers. Pure impotence. I try to buid something and I get absolutely no volunteers for something that would take so little time.

And so, again, impotent community. And, I say this to agitate - to get people here to stop being so damn impotent. I've been following this community for like 5 years, and it appears to go down hill with people obsessed with personality and personal vendettas. I hardly visit the tracker any more because it appears quite a lot of good submitters have abandoned ship a long time ago.

I posted on here because I imagined there would be people with sufficient knowledge and motivation to help on my project. But, I continue to find this to be a mostly worthless forum, offering no good ideas or any form of help in bulding things.

I would like to see concen fluorish. But a lack of development, a hardened troll community, and lack of funds leads me to think this site will be down in a year or two (or at least a shadow of itt's former self, if not already).

So, simply, I will stop postng here and start using other forums if I see no response to this..
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