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Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
03-10-2012, 12:08 AM,
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Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
Hi, I'm not new to ConCen tracker, but I am to the forum.

I'd like to suggest a new category for this forum: Requested Material.

It would be great to be able to request material amongst ourselves.

Right now I'm requesting uploads (or URL) for material on dream hacking, remote dream projection, synthetic dreams, time-line insertions/distortions/pivot points. Implanting synthetic dreams into people's minds while they are sleeping.

Information on... imagine a train track that forks into two directions. Somehow, someone pulls the lever that decides the route... information on time-line insertions/distortions/pivot points, etc. are vitally important.

Thanks much.
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03-10-2012, 12:16 AM,
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RE: Peragrate
I've had the common one where Nelson Mandela was dead. I was sure of it.

Imagine my surprise and shock to hear he was elected president of South Africa. Although I'm not sure how he died (I think it was assassination or execution though) or when I realized he was president could have been after his 1994 presidential term; it still feels quite clear to me that he died at some point.

Maybe not so much a time shift but perhaps false reporting or even a doppelganger look alike used in a ruse somehow.

[edit: Yeah that was it He Died in Prison] Thanks Easy Skanking
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03-10-2012, 01:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-10-2012, 01:40 AM by Easy Skanking.)
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
I've experienced a number of them.
I have memories of Mandela dying several times. I recall him being released from prison in 1991 but also having died in prison in late 1990 or early 1991 before the release. Then I also recall him having died early 2001 and all of the big tributes online at that time, especially the CNN website.

I remember Curtis Armstong (Booger from "Revenge of the Nerds") having committed suicide in 1986 but yet he is still alive. I recall being sad he took his own life as I really thought the character was very funny and it tragic he felt the need to end things.

Then there is David Carradine. I have memories of him dying in 1994 and then he was alive. I also recall him dying in 2009. So far, he is still dead in the most common timeline. Wink

I've had several ones happen here locally. There being a 35 foot tall tree where there was none the previous time I drove by an intersection. Most folks recall that tree being there for a long time but a close friend of mine says he doesn't remember it either.
Then also there being a building where there was none when I went by before. Everyone I asked said it had been there for years but I had never seen it before and I drive by that locale several times each week.
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03-10-2012, 01:51 AM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
I do. I think this is because the powers that be have gotten into something they should not have.It's kind of like a fight.They change something and the universe changes it back.The two sides keep going back in time and changing things at key points,TPTB are outclassed here they are playing in someone else's sand box.The cat only shit's in the sand box so many times before something is done to put a halt to it.I wonder if changing the future can change the past any thoughts.Me I would think this possible.
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03-10-2012, 03:21 AM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
Yes. Personal experiences. So you suspect that your time-line, or objects within your environment, has been altered.

There's something called hyper-dimensional manipulation. It means that something on a different vibratory level (this always comes out awkwardly) is controlling the reality below its own (us).

I think you're correct in the authorities getting into hot water, however, they may not have had any choice in the matter. Something tells me that we've experienced a silent invasion, and are no longer the dominant being on the planet.

I hear a lot of fluff about the loving aliens. That's not what I see around me, and I've lived in 9 countries so far.
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03-10-2012, 02:49 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
I had one of John Lennon being dead a few years before he actually was shot. I thought this was a premonition but who knows? Maybe we all have psychic abilities rather than mind controlled?
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03-10-2012, 05:59 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
It sound to me as if all of you are talking about clones.
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03-10-2012, 09:33 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
Guys, I'm interested in PERSONAL time-line insertions.

When YOUR time-line has been altered against your will or without your knowledge.

Nelson and John are on their own.
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03-11-2012, 01:00 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
peragrate: Perhaps you could elucidate on your own experiences, or information you've happened across, regarding personal timeline alterations.

I recall the Nelson Mandela assassination in the news a while back, but I'm suspecting that it could have been an error on the part of the media.

Is it possible to observe alternations in the very timeline of which we're supposed to be part? If so, this could go some ways toward explaining the nature of spirit or soul on this plane.
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03-11-2012, 04:43 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-11-2012, 05:03 PM by peragrate.)
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
(03-11-2012, 01:00 PM)thokling Wrote: peragrate: Perhaps you could elucidate on your own experiences, or information you've happened across, regarding personal timeline alterations.

I recall the Nelson Mandela assassination in the news a while back, but I'm suspecting that it could have been an error on the part of the media.

Is it possible to observe alternations in the very timeline of which we're supposed to be part? If so, this could go some ways toward explaining the nature of spirit or soul on this plane.

OK. I'll try.

I'm not sure where to begin. We could start with dreams. I had one the other night, and I met a meanace in the dream. When I woke up, I thought it was weird to dream about this person, and I was very conscious in the dream. A little like lucid dreaming (although I have almost zero experience with that). I just know that I was looking through my eyes when I talked to the person and that I was consciously present in the moment.

I was suspicious of the dream however. It's clarity was just as this "waking" reality. I know I would not arrange a meeting with that person, and something in side just told me that something was wrong about the whole thing.

I did a mini-meditation and, like an implanted memory, the dream-scape started to weaken as I recalled it. I could "see" someone else behind the dream. That someone else is a not a friend and is active in my week to week life (temporarily). I realized with a fright that that person was somehow behind the dream, and I started to suspect that it was a holographic experience, and that I hadn't really met the person in the dream. There are many possible explanations.

(As far as Nelson is concerned, he was probably cloned. As for the media, the industry has shifted from independent journalism to PR firms. Most of what I learn about the world comes from this site, so sorry if I'm being redundant to some of you.)

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Another is example is taking something that didn't happen and making it as if it did happen. Then constantly meeting people who subtly remind you of this incident that never happened. (They say the most common form of hypnosis is repetition.) The object is that once you've heard the lie enough times you'll accept it as truth. Not too many details on this one.
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Often, dream inform us of the future or the current state of affairs (at least for me.) Several times I've had dreams where I've seen a mountain (this is always viewed from above - 3rd person), and I have gone one way around the mountain and another person has gone the other-way.

The first time it happened I heard a voice in the dream say, "PERSON'S NAME and you are going your separate ways. It's strange because both times that was true. The relationship between myself and that person was ended shortly after the dream.

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So. I am not making these decisions. Something is though.

While in Bang Pong, Thailand, a Buddhist once explained to me that there is something within each of us called "The Knower." This being within us is what existed before we were born and it will exist after we are born. To become a Buddha is to become one with the Knower (meaning it knows everything.)

I'm not smart enough to tackle the chicken and the egg thing, so I don't want to get into a religious debate. Right now I simply believe in an original cause. I call that cause God. I don't believe God is completely insensitive to the pain we humans suffer (all over the globe), and I'm not sure I believe that God micromanages our lives, so who is making these executive decisions about my life?

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I've done a bit of meditation, and I've recorded my timeline in a book from 5 to about 38 (that's the year I wrote it all down.) There are a number of incidents in my timeline that are 100% out-of-character for myself; they are decisions I would not have made. They are also pivot points in my life: They changed everything.

It's a little like putting a bucked of water on the top of a door so that some one will walk through and fall for the prank. You're walking through a door, as you normally would, when all of a sudden your soaking wet. You're just standing there for a second thinking what the heck! They you see everyone standing around laughing, and you get the "joke". (This is just an example.)

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I don't know if I am explaining myself very good here. This is different that simply being betrayed by a human. It's pretty easy to figure out who's betrayed you, how they did it, and what they got out of it. These timeline alterations are significant, and the person or group of people behind it is usually not apparent.

Yet, as I've grown older and learned from experience, I've picked up the knack of detecting synthetic or engineered events. That's all for now. I need to think about your request for more details. I really have to think about this one to get my point across.

***EDIT***
There was the time I flew out to Saturn (and it was really me - I was very there!). When I looked back at the solar system I could see that all the planets were lined up in a row. Somehow I could see around the sun at the same time and there were a few planets in their orbit over there too. The planets where lined up line a arms of a clock at 6pm. A perfect line. Then in May of 2000 (maybe 2001) the planets did line up perfectly just as in my astral projection/dream. Surprisingly, the even go almost no media attention. I didn't choose to fly there. I was "Flown" there. I remember this so clearly - I was fully awake.

This ties into the thread I responded to concerning the pentagram. http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=42533&highlight=pentagram. The pentagram resonates at a very high frequency and it's more that adequate to off-set the efforts of any individual or group. But like any source problem, they won't go away until you deal with them directly. Unfortunately, you have to study their methodologies and at times use their own sword against them. Since I create the pentagram, and it offsets the effects of an event (before, during, or afterward), that tells me that the source of the event is external. (I can't explain more about this at the present moment.)
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03-11-2012, 05:41 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
peragrate: Before I begin my response, know that communication must always be two-way. It's enough for you to relate your experiences as best as you can from your own perspective, and enough for others to attempt to understand your experiences and, if not, to ask further questions.

We can do little more.

Precognition/clairvoyance through dreams exists only to those who've experienced it, myself included. Many times in my life I've existed in a situation I clearly recall dreaming one to several times (I believe seven previews is the limit I'm consciously aware of). I generally don't recall having dreamed it until the event or situation occurs, but this rule was broken once when I dreamed an event that happened within several hours after the dreaming.

It's quite possible that The Knower has access to our reality on a level that allows viewing of past and future events. There are some events that appear to be changeable, and others that don't. The reasons for this can be either logical or philosophical, or perhaps both.

It's interesting that you perceived a hidden "someone" behind your dream. However, it may be useful to keep in mind that this feeling you had resulted from one or more experiences earlier in life that set up a mnemonic imprint of sorts in your unconscious mind, and it may have been the only pattern you could match to it.

Much of our brains function automatically - the brain appears to be little more than a pattern processing and matching device operating on quantum principles, though that's not to say that it's not a powerful device in its own standing.

Then again, this Knower entity behind our existence on the physical plane may have introduced this vision to you for a reason. None of us can know the reason as well as you. Your power is the ability to ask questions about it, and, from the context you provided, the process of becoming Buddha can help one to understand these things.

Yet, having too many answers can spoil the mystery and splendour of physical existence. <grin>

Yes, repetition has been called "the most basic form of mind control". Sometimes it can occur over the span of only weeks - other times, it must span two or more generations to impact properly. In order for mind control to work effectively, one must be placed into a situation of fear. Then a solution is presented that helps to combat the fear. The solution may be in error, but, because it alleviates the fear that, by instinct, we must defeat, the solution more easily becomes reality to those who are not accustomed to independent thought.

I digress, however.

I've happened across the notion that what we can call the "Universe" exists in a variety of densities, a sphere separated into layers like a candy gobstopper. What one calls "God" is said to exist on the innermost layer, what some call "Source", and we exist on the outermost layer in our physical density. This concept has been extended too to allow for the next layer out from Source to contain a management system - conscious entities that help to ensure that The Dream conforms to the desires of The Dreamer. Perhaps this will lead you into some insight regarding your own perception of our shared dream.

However, keep in mind that just because the dream is shared does not negate the value of our individual perspectives. Why else do each of us perceive God differently, and sometimes by different names?

The planetary conjunction you noted occurred in 2000 during May, if I'm not mistaken. It involved the Sun, and planets Mercury through Saturn. Earth was on one side of the sun, and the remaining planets noted were on the other side, located within a 20 degree region of space from our perspective:

[Image: 5-5-2000above.gif]
(From top to bottom: Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Sol and Earth.)

So the planets didn't line up perfectly, but dreams are always representative of conceptualisations as brains operate on a conceptual level.

The gist, from what I've gathered from your response thus far, is that you suspect that forces beyond our physical plane may be adjusting the timeline for some ultimate purpose. I'd be most receptive to further experiences you've had, and at your leisure of course.

(03-11-2012, 04:43 PM)peragrate Wrote: (As far as Nelson is concerned, he was probably cloned. As for the media, the industry has shifted from independent journalism to PR firms. Most of what I learn about the world comes from this site, so sorry if I'm being redundant to some of you.)

The mass media cannot be trusted as a source of factual information, but only as a study of social memetics. I often equate the sole reliance upon mass media as the acceptance of "spoon feeding" of information. Never fear the Search Engines, for, even with all of the garbage made available, they open up a world of understanding, and give one the opportunity to turn into order what appears to be chaos.

That's what the brain is for. :>
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03-11-2012, 08:48 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
That's right. I remember the earth and the moon and I being on the same side of the sun. I never looked into the alignment itself. I just took the "dream" on trust as a planetary alignment that appeared to suggest some form of time-related thing: like a clock. That was in 1997 or so.
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03-13-2012, 10:43 PM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
here peragrate,some things you would like in this video.you asked lol http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=28236
What kills me makes me stronger !

No favor asked no quarter given !

Your sitting in your comfort you don't believe I'm real,
You cannot buy protection from the way that I feel.

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03-14-2012, 03:58 AM,
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
Nice poem
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03-18-2012, 11:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-18-2012, 11:33 AM by peragrate.)
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RE: Have you experienced timeline alterations in your present life?
Well, it wasn't a huge pole, but at least I know I'm not the only one now!

B4Time, I usually try to pay very close attention to other forms of communication including hand gestures and what I see in the eyes of the person speaking. I didn't really like that video too much, but I appreciate you sharing it with me.
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