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Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
03-15-2012, 04:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 04:41 AM by Sovereignman.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
(03-15-2012, 03:54 AM)tcoz Wrote:
(03-15-2012, 02:13 AM)Sovereignman Wrote: "people call me kooky because they can't defend themselves intellectually" - Ron Paul

this is ron paul pointing out an ad hominem fallacy.

ironic that'd you'd commit the same fallacy as your signature points out..

(i.e. people call zapoper a cross dresser because they can't defend themselves intellectually)

Says the guy who only herd the words cross dresser out of four or five paragraphs.

If you don't like Ron Paul, no need to clutter up this particular thread with anti Paul comments. Head over to the craigslist politics section, or go the any msm site so you can talk with other zombies about big government, welfare checks, muslim boogeymen, and unjust wars.
(03-15-2012, 03:52 AM)Mami Wrote: [Image: e18brd.jpg] [Image: 715201170930.jpg]

Ronny boy is a tool/gatekeeper who makes lots of shekels running for prez every 4 years.

That's actually an Obama supporter. She got that big from government programs (food stamps aka "nutrition" assistance).
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03-15-2012, 05:01 AM,
#32
RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=44755&pid=239646#pid239646

Post 24. No paragraphs there. You just called me a cross dresser in one sentence.

Lets stop this shit and your two personal attacks on me are water under the bridge.

I was just expressing my point of view as stated in my post that started all this.

Best of luck in your endeavors with the Ron Paul camp and in your personal life too. I just don't believe in Ron Paul anymore and it's my right.

See! I was able to make a comment without calling you names. :lol: Wave
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03-15-2012, 05:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 05:36 AM by Scorpio.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Ron Paul isn't going to win shit. Deal with it.

My big question: What is Ron going to do with all of the leftover loot from his campaign donations?
Obomber 2.0 is coming, like it or not. Romney is a sure loser, guaranteed.
"The gift of speech, as we know, is not often accompanied by the gift of thought" - Somerset Maugham
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03-15-2012, 06:12 AM,
#34
RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
(03-15-2012, 04:39 AM)Sovereignman Wrote: Says the guy who only herd the words cross dresser out of four or five paragraphs.

um, the post i replied to had 1 paragraph : "I knew it. Cross dresser."

just found it funny that you'd repeat, in a single post, the very same kind of thing your signature says is something people do because they can't defend themselves intellectually.
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03-15-2012, 08:14 AM,
#35
RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Quote:If you don't like Ron Paul, no need to clutter up this particular thread with anti Paul comments.

It's cool as long as it's intelligent discussion.

I've already said my bit in a few posts on this thread though.

That said, we have plenty of Ron Paul threads in this forum that both praise and bash the man Ron Paul but it's more about what he is advocating, his plans and how his presence has influenced the socio-political landscape, which then influences other things that of more basal priority in the grand scheme..
There are no others, there is only us.
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03-15-2012, 05:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 05:12 PM by rockclimber.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
(03-15-2012, 08:14 AM)FastTadpole Wrote:
Quote:If you don't like Ron Paul, no need to clutter up this particular thread with anti Paul comments.

It's cool as long as its intelligent discussion.

I've already said my bit in a few posts on this thread though.

That said, we have plenty of Ron Paul threads in this forum that both praise and bash the man Ron Paul but it's more about what he is advocating, his plans and how his presence has influenced the socio-political landscape, which then influences other things that of more basal priority in the grand scheme..

I'm with you here. Many of his ideas are worth advocating and I'm glad he's putting many of them out there. Problem is what are the people going to do about it and will anything be done?

I personally doubt it...
(03-15-2012, 03:52 AM)Mami Wrote: [Image: e18brd.jpg] [Image: 715201170930.jpg]

Ronny boy is a tool/gatekeeper who makes lots of shekels running for prez every 4 years.

He is a gatekeeper and I'm with others--he should go all the way now and expose what he knows--that is who is running America--the elite pig jews. Problem is knowing that he is buddies with Alex Jone$ we know it won't happen. Birds of a feather flock together.
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03-15-2012, 06:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 06:54 PM by Mami.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Ron Paul - Never Forget the Day He BACKSTABBED America!

He may not like the truth movement, but the conman sure rallied for their money, and kept it all after he lost. (Same scam all over again for this election)











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03-15-2012, 09:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2012, 09:09 PM by Sovereignman.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Mami, that first vid, whoever made it is a doosh. We already covered this, if you can't see past the smear attack then you deserve this failing nation. So because Paul doesn't want to deal with the blow back from opening a giant can of worms right before the presidential election it makes him a back stabber? Yeah right.

His answer is exactly what I would have expected. He said, I have too much on my plate. He runs the risk of alienating himself by claiming something that he can't back up with refutable facts.

The fed gov being solely responsible for 9-11 is a bold claim, and a slippery slope.

So now what are you going to do? Write off Paul and support Goldman Sachs owned candidates like obomba and Romney because of that one reason, that being Paul refused to discuss the 9-11 topic at that particular time? You are being pig headed and counter productive. Despite this one issue that you aren't happy about, he is still the only candidate speaking against the powers that allowed 9-11 to happen. Think about that.

Second video, again, when we have refutable proof that the federal government planned and orchestrated it then I have no doubts Paul would acknowledge and speak on the issue. Right now though the only evidence we have is video footage and a few eye witnesses. Where are the whistleblowers? Where are the secret documents? What evidence do we have that will undoubtedly prove who was behind it? Show me the evidence.

Third video. That guy has nothing on Paul. Paul gave an answer consistent with his stance, getting money back for the taxpayers. And personal responsibility. Hey, if you are dumb enough to move to a coast line that is below sea level and known to experience hurricanes, then you deserve what you get. It's like playing russian roulette. Do you feel lucky? Well....do ya, punk?

Get lost with your weak videos. Go vote for Romney, Gingrich, or Obama. Or santorum, if you think Paul is so bad.
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03-16-2012, 04:52 AM,
#39
RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Concurring with you Sovereignman.

Stephan Molyneux has an interesting theory and take on Paul... and it's been fascinating to watch it develop over time...

20 minutes in.... they start discussing Paul for about 8 minutes... listen up.

(from March 8th)




This one's from January 3rd, and a "must listen" IMO.



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03-16-2012, 07:19 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-16-2012, 07:34 AM by Sovereignman.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Lol, people get to participate in their enslavement. Sofaking true, I never looked at it like that. Like, yay! We're here to support Romney and the fact that he may reinstate the draft thus leading to our childs death, yay! Or some other example.

Mr. Molyneux, sounds like an intelligent man who possesses many cells in his brain called logic. I have thought on numerous occassions, more than i care to recall, about much of what he touched on. I'm at 19.xx so far....

Edit

You know, he is 100% correct. As much as I'd like to see Ron Paul be elected I have thought about this before, not in depth but I remember thinking, shit will hit the fan harder than it did in these past few years with the housing crash and the bailouts/inflation/currency devalue and I can just picture everyone blaming Paul for the all the problems that mature at once. Even though the mature problems are just adolesent problems that we have been facing for years.

I liken the scenario to a person getting injured and the injury is severe enough to know that it needs to be treated in order to heal but the treatment will be painful. So the person prolongs treatment until the wound has become so badly infected that the person either seeks treatment or risks losing the limb that the wound is on. When the person does finally seek medical treatment, the pain to treat the wound is almost unbearable and drastic measures must be taken to keep other parts of the body safe. If the person would have just had the wound treated immediately, at this point they would already be well into the healing process and would still have their limb and minimal pain.

Americans have been living with the wound for so long that the treatment needed is so severe that it's going to be extremely painful.
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03-16-2012, 02:09 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-16-2012, 02:10 PM by Mami.)
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
@ Sovereignman

Get lost? Just who the fuck do you "think" you are? Fuck you!

I didn't say anything about US inc, I just posted dirt on a conman who go's by the name Ron Paul.

An American man is born a trespasser/squatter on Jewish owned land with his dick in his hand and nothing else. Within a couple hours after birth his mother, (the informant) signs papers that makes him collateral on her and the fathers debt. (that they inherited from their parents) When he turns 18 he gets to pay off his folks debt, and turns into a share cropper who actually pays the jew to use his land to plant crops that he only gets a tiny share of. Source
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03-16-2012, 05:40 PM,
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
Nice post April. Good video.
At least some people are actively discussing solutions to societal problems, using logical arguements, and rational thinking instead of just blaming a whole segment of people based on a small minority, as if that will get us anywhere closer to changing things.
The issues involved in changing the status quo will not be fixed by blaimng anyone one group of people when the issues are much bigger than them and run rampant among ALL aspects of society. Everyday people make up society too, not just the ruling class. Fundimental change does need to happen there 1st. and I think Ron Paul addresses that, if even in a small way.

I do respect what Stefan said, and I too have thought and posted here that Ron Paul could be "too little too late" although I havent stopped supporting what Paul says in respect to the campaign - as well as in comparison to the other candidates.
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research"
~William Cooper

DTTNWO!
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03-16-2012, 06:31 PM,
#43
RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
(03-16-2012, 02:09 PM)Mami Wrote: @ Sovereignman

Get lost? Just who the fuck do you "think" you are? Fuck you!

I didn't say anything about US inc, I just posted dirt on a conman who go's by the name Ron Paul.

An American man is born a trespasser/squatter on Jewish owned land with his dick in his hand and nothing else. Within a couple hours after birth his mother, (the informant) signs papers that makes him collateral on her and the fathers debt. (that they inherited from their parents) When he turns 18 he gets to pay off his folks debt, and turns into a share cropper who actually pays the jew to use his land to plant crops that he only gets a tiny share of. Source
LOL

Interesting theory. I suppose it's accurate to a degree. Im taking a shot in the dark here by assuming that I struck a chord with you on my ramblings regarding illegal immigration.

Unless there is some other reason as to why you seem to have suddenly blown a gasket.

And no, you did not post any dirt on Ron Paul, you are grasping at straws in an effort to smear a man who wants you to take some responsibility in your life by stripping you of your coveted welfare check and working for your enrichment.

Sorry Paco, the USA is not the land of entitlement.
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03-17-2012, 01:52 AM,
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
(03-15-2012, 06:35 PM)Mami Wrote: Ron Paul - Never Forget the Day He BACKSTABBED America!

He may not like the truth movement, but the conman sure rallied for their money, and kept it all after he lost. (Same scam all over again for this election)












Easy harsh stance in all these video's and oodles mis leading ... surprised it hasn't been riped a new hole...

He's right to distance himself from 911 if he wants in hell for years the MSM had him pegged a kook for wanting back on the gold standard and to get rid of the FED yet how many of us know that is number 1 problem with America... I found it amusing to watch the Brit PM and Obama during there joint press conference when they were asked how the PM felt about Obama's jobs and budget plans... and he had to admit that it was different and more beneficial for britian as they ARE NOT OB A RESERVE system with the fed...

Ron paul is the only current option even close to the desired effect, I just am one who knows there is no war anymore, it's over and WE lost so there is NO way a regular joe can ever be prez. the position is hand picked... It's interesting how no Republican pick was thrown in, I can believe it's 3 separate independent factions striving to get the ticket not filled with the slim hope of beating Obama. Ron Paul is the ONLY prez who would expose all the things after winning, maybe thats how we come to know ET LOL

the second video with the tim guy... total bs... Talk about entrapment and confusion for the sheep. I Totally understood his strategy, if there going to rob your tax dollars better it goes back to the people of your ridding then to some black hole federal program. it's like if i pay 15% tax in a year and make 100,000 and can get back 10,000 from some program, it's like paying myself back. He is doing what a good rep should and if some local group in your riding/ district petitions you for cash due to some flood or for innerstate development and you know it is not only needed but is wanted as there REP you represent there wishes!!! NOW point 2) He knows they're either going to have some say and some chance of receiving some of there over tax back (Congress) or it will be spent @ the fed level and in Ron Paul's case on wars he doesn't approve of along with 65% of americans!!! This is how tax dollars work. He still votes no, but knows the bills will pass nothing he can do so best if there wasting his riddings tax money some of it be sent back rather then to other states. I am sure If he ever won a prez he would change a lot of the rules.

A final note on that clip... was the last attack on limited terms and the such and his answer on it being If they were mandatory he would support it! But won't do so voluntarily If the patient ain't dead or cured a good doc doesn't give up. He was not a broke man b4 he entered politics and It's better to have a well red and intelligent man be there then what Texas normally produces and I'd prefer doctors to lawyers any day as should all boomersIcon_biggrin

Well got quite a book going here... and dinner so

ciao 4 now
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03-17-2012, 08:20 PM,
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RE: Ron Paul 2012 Election Info
[Image: Ron-Paul-Hand-Sign-4.jpg.jpg]

What an impressive set of Baphomet horns he has. Sorta like these guys...

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Controlled opposition.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - Henry L. Mencken

I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant. - Henry L. Mencken
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