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The true purpose of gold and other precious metals
02-22-2012, 11:32 AM,
#31
RE: The true purpose of gold and other precious metals
Yeti: I don't get what your mental problem is, man.

When a user asks you, a moderator, a question, and you throw it back in their face, how is that going to be beneficial for the system?

I asked you if the Occult section of the forums was about occult and not necessarily conspiracies, and you failed to answer it, and threw back a response that, in essence, mocked my question.

Is this an act or something, or do you enjoy being abusive to your userbase?

I'm pretty close to being done with the forums at this point with your continued mockery. Please revisit my post and answer my question.
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02-22-2012, 05:58 PM,
#32
RE: The true purpose of gold and other precious metals
"Actually it makes perfect sense considering the fact that there were plenty of ancient societies that never used gold for currency. And its funny how you choose to just ignore certain parts of my argument. I sight the shekel as the first common currency meaning that it represented a set amount. If you know of another one then I invite you to speak up on what it was."

Atlantis which existed according to LEGEND way b4 the jews of the today used gold and crystals for currency with those not of Atlantis. The ruins of peru also have places in the wall which once held plate sized seals of office or of trade, which scholars believe were made from gold.

Now Why gold!!!! Well from our oldest writings part of your theory is sound. "Because god likes it" and who is god? Why our creator! And who created us? The Anumaki And why? to mine gold! hence it's programed into us at a basic level to hunt and horde gold for our "god"

What do jews know that most don't that leads them to be the ones to horde the gold?

Well is is magic?.... hummm to the mind which has no other explanation!!! What they (kablistic jews) have is a look at the truth, they have been the ones to write the illusion we live in today, and they horde the gold as they know they will need it when god returns, as only those who have the right offering will be seen as "blessed". And all religons warn the (y) god (s) are coming back one day.

Can ANYONE summon anumaki now with gold....? I don't BELIEVE so, are the Jews chosen? hells no just still holders of the truth and perhaps over skills denied to the goyium, your right any one can use there books but do they work!!!! Has anyone here ever summoned even so much as a spark? let alone an entity/ demon from another plane... it's a mis understanding which causes goyium and non truth (key) holders to believe such and in doing so keep them afraid to explore or proceed.

There are plenty of reasons to hate the Jews, envy of them being super powered wizards... not one of them!!!
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02-24-2012, 09:51 AM,
#33
RE: The true purpose of gold and other precious metals
(02-22-2012, 06:41 AM)April Wrote:
(02-22-2012, 01:51 AM)sitra11ahra Wrote: And as for jews being the chosen people by the god of this world, I believe that. I believe God has given them what he promised them in the torah which is land, wealth, and dominion over other men.

The Torah does NOT say that though... it say's the opposite!

God does not promise the jews land, wealth or any kind of dominion... In fact, according to the torah, the Jews are to live in "exile" and they should never have their own state or land!

Quoting a rabbi...

Quote:"Zionism is a fundamentally heretical movement which denies the Divine imperative that Jews remain in exile until the day when all mankind will be miraculously redeemed." ~Yisroel Dovid Weiss

and a video..




Welcome to ConCen sitra11ahra. Wave Grin Popcorn

Thanks for welcoming me. And Im familiar with the particular video that you posted. They are in exile by god from the land of Israel, but he does make multiple promises to the Jewish people naming their descendants the future kings of men:

Genesis 49:10

"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh comes; and to Him shall be the obedience of the people" .

Genesis 12:2-3

New International Version (NIV)

2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”

Exodus 19:5-6

New International Version (NIV)
5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, 6 you[a] will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

I would point to the first reference in outlining what I said about promising them the obedience of other nations. What it comes down to is if you believe that Christ was what he said he was, I dont. I believe he was a great teacher, but to me the god he professed to serve and the god of the old testament have some fundamental differences. If you believe in the new testament then I think that by extension you believe that the promises to the jews became the promises to the christians. After all Christ's original plan from what Ive picked up was to fix the jewish religion and thats why in so many arguments about antisemitism people always love to say things like, "well, Jesus was a jew". Since I believe in the god of the old testament (demuirge) and believe that since the Jewish idea of paradise is one that exists on earth with Israel at its head then it is reasonable to believe that this paradise will consist in large part of worldly treasures not to mention that while the new testament forbids materialism the old testament does not and in fact many key jewish figures including abraham and solomon were wealthy. It can be concluded that when god mentions "blessings" when referring to the israelites he is speaking of possessions and wealth as well as other things. After all, what makes a nation blessed? If you dont believe in a god then this entire argument is irrelevant, but suppose there is one, it doesnt take a genius to see what nations are in his favor. As the Rabbi you quoted pointed out when redemption comes they will be led out of exile, to where? Israel. But, I would also like to point out that the torah does not point to how exactly this redemption and return to "the holy land" will come about. The rabbi in the video represents a small group of jews who in the end are relying on their own interpretation. If the jews are correct in their religious beliefs then the return to israel could very well be a gradual one, not to mention that while the torah may forbid against against many of the things that the jews of today are engaged in the talmud does not and in some cases even encourages it. And to jews that are familiar with the talmud it is considered higher law.

And not that you asked, but just to clarify in order to avoid a future explanation, the specific brand of satanism that I follow is not one of the many self indulgent "do what thou wilt" brands. While we do not believe in sin we believe that over indulgence in anything will lead to a form of enslavement to this world and ultimately our eternal souls leaving our bodies as we're reduced to mindless machinery. We believe that since this world as a material creation is completely illusionary and evil we should strive to maintain a healthy distance from it's traps. For example while sex may be used in ritual or even for recreation we must always be weary of promiscuity because once we become preoccupied with the never ending search for a sexual rush we lose our connection with the Sitra Ahra and our soul will leave our body. That is why we see many people on this earth as being soulless or clayborn because they long ago abandoned the fight for whatever their vice may be whether its drugs, t.v., suburban home with trimmed hedges, etc. Then again not everybody is born with a soul in the first place. I know this probably puts me at odds with a number of people here, but in the end I do see us as having common enemies so I feel that despite our overall views on the nature of this world and existence we still can benefit from sharing ideas. It is a major goal of those in power to make the general public feel that because they hold different values from their neighbors that nothing can be learned from them. Sorry I ramble. its like 3:45 in the morning so I apologize if some of that was unnecessary or jumbled together.

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02-24-2012, 11:17 AM,
#34
RE: The true purpose of gold and other precious metals
Gold exists in a controlled structured commoditized market that requires mineral rights to extract. Mineral rights are granted to select individuals and corporations that apply for them.

Humankind has mined a lot of gold and there is likely much more. It is a useful noble element for instances that require highly conductive non-corroding materials to execute their function. It also works as a good UV filter (e.g. Space Helmet Visors). On this basis alone, its valuation is inflated.

It's current high monetization, high liquidity and trade value leads to a few conclusions.

For the short term in does increase Gold Mining, Make Money in the Market, Get serfs to sell their gold and Get serfs to buy gold. Longer term - serfs are left holding the bag and have to sell anyways to supplant income due to restrictive lending and less buying power from paltry wages.

The consumption of gold produced in the world is about 50% in jewellery, 40% in investments, and 10% in industry.

Calculated Sums of World Gold Holdings is 1,550 to 1,600 Metric Tonnes up markedly from 1,400 back in 2005.

Central Banks report holding 30,000 tonnes. The US of A, Germany, France, Italy and China are the top holders, accounting for about half of that total.

The IMF recently (2009-2010) sold 403 tonnes of Gold or 18% of their total holdings at the time. 200 of it to India, 10 to Shri Lanka and 10 to Bangledesh. The remaining 190 tonnes were sold on-market.

South Africa has the largest supply of gold estimated, left unmined underground.

When food was in short supply Ancient Rome no longer accepted gold for taxes and demanded it be paid in grain.

IMF's new framework economy specifically excludes gold (and only gold) to be traded for par value national/basket/SDR currencies. It hints at using energy, land and food production to back money.

Just a few things to think about.

Sources:
http://money.howstuffworks.com/question213.htm
http://www.onlygold.com/TutorialPages/All_The_Gold_In_The_World.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve#Officially_reported_gold_holdings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Production
http://www.galmarley.com/framesets/fs_commodity_essentials_faqs.htm
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/gold.htm
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2008/NEW040708A.htm
http://www.gata.org/files/GDBC_Report.pdf

Related:

Deflation or Inflation? When Will the Price of Gold Plummet?
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=33668
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