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Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
01-27-2012, 10:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-27-2012, 10:27 AM by capnchronic.)
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Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana












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01-27-2012, 01:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-27-2012, 01:12 PM by thokling.)
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
Thanks for posting these videos. I'm wondering how many other topics TYT has chosen not to research thoroughly.

There is no reference anywhere involving Gingrich proposing the death penalty for the possession of marijuana, but plenty about his views on the trafficking of controlled substances.

In fact, there's more information available at http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Gingrich/Marijuana.php regarding his views on trafficking of recreational substances, substantiated by http://www.alternet.org/drugs/153414/newt_gingrich_proposed_the_death_penalty_for_pot__--_even_though_he_admitted_to_smoking_it/, and also reported at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/13/gary-johnson-newt-gingrich-marijuana-hyprocrisy_n_1146739.html.

Quote from The Huff:
Quote:Gingrich "proposed the death penalty for marijuana -- for possession of marijuana above a certain quantity of marijuana -- and yet he is among 100 million Americans who smoke marijuana," Johnson told MSNBC’s Alex Witt over the weekend.

That's not quite right. Even under Gingrich's draconian proposal, nobody could be sentenced to death for smoking pot. But Johnson does effectively highlight one of the more outrageous pieces of drug policy to be introduced before Congress, and pushed by the GOP presidential front runner no less. In 1996 the former House Speaker sponsored the Drug Importer Death Penalty Act, under which importing more than two ounces of certain illegal substances -- including marijuana -- can be punishable by life imprisonment or the death penalty.
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01-27-2012, 05:43 PM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
whats the deal with american grown product?... It could be a standards and importation issue...LOL
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01-27-2012, 11:22 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-27-2012, 11:24 PM by h3rm35.)
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
I remember this from the Cures Not Wars rallies in Washington Square Park in Manhattan in the nineties... Newt Gingrich and that other wonderful example of humanity, Jesse Helms sponsored it and Rudy Giulliani backed them vocally, and it would, in fact, institute the death penalty to for ¨Conspiracy to import two or more ounces¨ (If memory serves,)... it was the inspiration for what was going to be the ¨Million Marijuana March¨ that was going to go from Wash Sq. to City Hall... The year before, tens of thousands of people showed (the first Saturday of May every year for years, I always had an awesome time,) and that year the city OK´d the permits so that the various organizations would spend tons of money preparing, signing up speakers and music acts like they did every year... Then, the Thursday (I think) prior, Guilliani revoked the permits and instituted NYC´s very first ¨Family Day,¨ where the parks would be full of cops ¨protecting and serving¨ a bunch of families with small kids who would turn out for face-painting, pony rides, etc.
Howard stern announced it on his show, so the turnout was less, but a few thousand people showed up and marched, and because of the fact that their permits had been revoked, many of them were arrested, most likely in possesion of marijuana.

This was the same year that Giulliani´s office conveniently¨ misplaced every police brutality report, and it was the same year that the cops shot an immigrant 41 times for brandishing his wallet and brutally beat and sodomized an innocent man in their custody with a plunger handle.
He also allowed permits for the ¨Million (black) Youth March, and then sent in the shock troops w/o probable cause and arrested hundreds for the crime of being young and black in NYC. He also got wind of a planned ¨critical mass¨ Taxi demonstration planned to choke off the streets around city hall so he illegally disallowed any cabs from boroughs outside Manhattan entry, screwing over millions of working people, cabbies and non-cabbies alike.

Oh yeah, he also revoked city funding from a non profit art museum because one painting by one artist had used elephant dung as one of the mediums in their depiction of the Madonna, and the museum didn listen to his request for it to be removed from display.

I honestly believe that Giulianni´s actions at that time were tests to see how a microcosmic sample of the american public would respond to the outright ignorance and destruction of civil liberties post 9-11. He certainly was ¨America´s Mayor,¨ and even though he got shut down in his bid for the republican nomination for president and his senate run against Hillary Clinton, He still is predominantly thought of a some kind of fucking hero for fronting the propagnda war behind the false flag.

damn. sorry. I guess I´m just in rant mode today.
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01-28-2012, 03:13 AM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-27-2012, 01:00 PM)thokling Wrote: Thanks for posting these videos. I'm wondering how many other topics TYT has chosen not to research thoroughly.

There is no reference anywhere involving Gingrich proposing the death penalty for the possession of marijuana, but plenty about his views on the trafficking of controlled substances.

In fact, there's more information available at http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Gingrich/Marijuana.php regarding his views on trafficking of recreational substances, substantiated by http://www.alternet.org/drugs/153414/newt_gingrich_proposed_the_death_penalty_for_pot__--_even_though_he_admitted_to_smoking_it/, and also reported at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/13/gary-johnson-newt-gingrich-marijuana-hyprocrisy_n_1146739.html.

Quote from The Huff:
Quote:Gingrich "proposed the death penalty for marijuana -- for possession of marijuana above a certain quantity of marijuana -- and yet he is among 100 million Americans who smoke marijuana," Johnson told MSNBC’s Alex Witt over the weekend.

That's not quite right. Even under Gingrich's draconian proposal, nobody could be sentenced to death for smoking pot. But Johnson does effectively highlight one of the more outrageous pieces of drug policy to be introduced before Congress, and pushed by the GOP presidential front runner no less. In 1996 the former House Speaker sponsored the Drug Importer Death Penalty Act, under which importing more than two ounces of certain illegal substances -- including marijuana -- can be punishable by life imprisonment or the death penalty.

Good catch, the actual stuff as you discussed above and is in the actual article below the videos is still just as bad IMO, and with that said how can anyone expect TYT from fact checking when the show airs on Al Gore's CurrentTV, facts are just "inconvenient truths", with that said the clip of newt saying talking about the founding fathers and marijuana is still a great clip.
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01-28-2012, 04:19 AM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-28-2012, 03:13 AM)capnchronic Wrote:
(01-27-2012, 01:00 PM)thokling Wrote: There is no reference anywhere involving Gingrich proposing the death penalty for the possession of marijuana, but plenty about his views on the trafficking of controlled substances.
Good catch, the actual stuff as you discussed above and is in the actual article below the videos is still just as bad IMO, and with that said how can anyone expect TYT from fact checking when the show airs on Al Gore's CurrentTV, facts are just "inconvenient truths", with that said the clip of newt saying talking about the founding fathers and marijuana is still a great clip.

With an asinine comment like that, you've lost any future consideration on my part towards any level of intellect, backbone or compassion I might have attributed to you toward your fellow humans.

Rather than call these misinformation and disinformation specialists to account for their lies, you and people like you would just rather sit back and let it happen.

(01-27-2012, 11:22 PM)h3rm35 Wrote: damn. sorry. I guess I´m just in rant mode today.

You were perfectly justified in your rant. The problem is there's not enough action to really warrant any actual change in the system.

It's too late to save humanity and "make the world a better place for all." By the time people in Usania and other regimes decide to turn off their sitcoms and mainstream news, get off their couches, and think about fighting, all the acts necessary to finalise the termination of those unfit for slave labour will have been passed. There won't be any choice for people, because even the barest hint of revolution will be struck down by more firepower and technology than anyone's seen.

Hell, it's looking so much brighter on the other side now. Ka-CHING! Time for easy street, baby.

Newt, Gore and all them have the right idea. I never realised how brilliant they were.
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01-28-2012, 04:36 AM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-28-2012, 04:19 AM)thokling Wrote: With an asinine comment like that, you've lost any future consideration on my part towards any level of intellect, backbone or compassion I might have attributed to you toward your fellow humans.

Rather than call these misinformation and disinformation specialists to account for their lies, you and people like you would just rather sit back and let it happen.

What are you referencing? I acknowledged that what you said is right, and anyone who's show airs on a Channel like CurrentTV (or any TV channel for that matter), can't be expected to be factual, it's all bullshit. Or are you referring to me saying giving the death penalty to people for trafficking Marijuana is just as bad, it's still killing someone over a harmless substance.
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01-28-2012, 05:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-28-2012, 06:13 AM by thokling.)
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-28-2012, 04:36 AM)capnchronic Wrote: What are you referencing? I acknowledged that what you said is right, and anyone who's show airs on a Channel like CurrentTV (or any TV channel for that matter), can't be expected to be factual, it's all bullshit. Or are you referring to me saying giving the death penalty to people for trafficking Marijuana is just as bad, it's still killing someone over a harmless substance.

Sure, I'll spoon feed this to you.

(01-28-2012, 03:13 AM)capnchronic Wrote: Good catch, the actual stuff as you discussed above and is in the actual article below the videos is still just as bad IMO

Firstly, you agreed mindlessly with me. There was no intellectual discourse on your part, nor any intent to put any effort into showcasing what scumbags these guys are. And then not only ignored, but dismissed, the effort I put into finding the truth behind it by saying, in essence, "well, your work is futile, because it's still bad."

That was just plain insulting.

(01-28-2012, 03:13 AM)capnchronic Wrote: and with that said how can anyone expect TYT from fact checking when the show airs on Al Gore's CurrentTV,

You don't expect it to happen. You make it happen. Advertise this stuff on other boards. Visit the YouTube channel where I posted the same (but shorter) chastisation of this error (under Signal31music) and throw a note in there congratulating me. No one else has at the time of this posting - they're just continuing to bitch about the comment Newt didn't make.

Let's also focus on Gore for a moment. You remember that whole Carbon Tax fiasco? No? Try a Web search for gore carbon tax scam and do some reading.

Did you know that, while he was charging his own, non-government-sponsored Carbon Taxes, he was wasting far more energy in his household than the average Usanian home? Go ahead: look it up. gore household energy use comparison should get you started.

And, yet, most Usanians glossed over it. Hell, most of the world glossed over it. The only people who caught it were freaky vegan tree huggers (all of whom have probably already slept with Gore so they could pay their rent because they spend so much time screwing trees) and those of us with enough sense to see through the global warming garbage.

GORE PULLED A FAST ONE. And no one bothered to take him to task. In other words, he was authorised by the Usanian people to do what he did.

But you couldn't even see through TYT's lies, so it's no wonder you think Gore's untouchable. Gore's one of the biggest morons who've passed through the White House, and yet he suckered so many people into his scam. And then you figured that these two "powers", who couldn't think their ways out of a paper bag, were superior.

(01-28-2012, 03:13 AM)capnchronic Wrote: facts are just "inconvenient truths"

All you did here was echo what other people have said with neither the desire to do anything about it nor the will to speak out against it. You've already given up without even starting the fight. Not only that, but you've empathised with the same people who are scamming you out of any pride you might have left.

(01-28-2012, 03:13 AM)capnchronic Wrote: with that said the clip of newt saying talking about the founding fathers and marijuana is still a great clip.

Yeah! Alright! In one fell swoop you not only caused whatever you typed previously to come tumbling down faster than the WTC dropped its trousers, but also nullified any comments -I- had supplied about the errors made.

AND forgave both TYT and Gore in the same process by not expressing any outrage toward these lies.

Here, I wrote this up just for you and the rest of the non-thinking Usanians:

<rap>
Usania's gonna be easy for the elite to beat
They're gonna get ya while you're walking down the street.
It's too late to fight, you'll die trying,
Cuz you're too busy jerking while the children are crying.

They got you by your balls, you can't deny this,
You'll have to ask permission before you drink your piss.
Flipping on your tube? You got no money left to spend
Cuz behind your back your freedoms came to an end.
</rap>

Gonna call that one "No Clue."

Christ, I'm pissed off at the level of complacency in Usania right now. I spent months getting to the point where I was calm and at peace with the way things were, and one post by some moron tears it right down.

No wonder I'm eyeing the dark side now. I'm starting to think it's a whole lot brighter over there.

(Oh, and for those of you who are new to ConCen, please, for the love of mercy, take some of these posts as examples of how not to stand up for your freedoms and your rights as humans, and learn how to fight back.)
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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01-28-2012, 08:22 PM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
I´m no big fan of Soros, and not a fan of the globalizing, deregulating Clinton administration, nor gore as their tree-hugging poster boy/human pencil holder. However I actually read his book ¨The Assualt on Reason,¨ and it was a scathing critique of money in politics, the juggernaut media, the evisceration of civil liberties, and the perversion that the US´ government has become from the intentions of the framers of the constitution. Everything else he´s ever done is crap, but I think he had an attack of conscience there, and it´s one of the best examinations of American politics in recent years (if you can get through the small sections of self - aggrandizing global warming crap.)

I´m almost tempted, because of that book, to think that the guy actually believes his Cap-and-trade, carbon credit bullshit is something more than a dollar-generating-machine.
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01-28-2012, 08:35 PM,
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(01-28-2012, 08:22 PM)h3rm35 Wrote: I´m no big fan of Soros, and not a fan of the globalizing, deregulating Clinton administration, nor gore as their tree-hugging poster boy/human pencil holder. However I actually read his book ¨The Assualt on Reason,¨ and it was a scathing critique of money in politics, the juggernaut media, the evisceration of civil liberties, and the perversion that the US´ government has become from the intentions of the framers of the constitution.

Sounds interesting. You have my official permission to upload it. Audio preferred, but PDF will do...

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01-28-2012, 08:46 PM,
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I read it a while ago, & no longer have a copy. I gave it away during one of my Wet Coast hitch-hiking expeditions... I´ve searched for torrents but can find none with seeds. I´ll check my library for audio, but I´m not promising anything.
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01-29-2012, 01:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-29-2012, 02:07 AM by thokling.)
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-28-2012, 04:36 AM)capnchronic Wrote: What are you referencing? I acknowledged that what you said is right, and anyone who's show airs on a Channel like CurrentTV (or any TV channel for that matter), can't be expected to be factual, it's all bullshit. Or are you referring to me saying giving the death penalty to people for trafficking Marijuana is just as bad, it's still killing someone over a harmless substance.

Anyway, Chronicler, I'm not pissed at you - it's the general situation that's getting to me. We're in agreement on the event and analyses themselves, and I was glad to have helped out with the info. The biggest asset is to check into these stories a bit. Search engines are a powerful too, but they take some practice. That's how I make my posts look awesome (the ones that aren't ranting, that is. ;)

Killing in the name of the alleged "Drug War" is inane, indeed. In fact, I'm a proponent of legalising every drug humans want. For one, it reduces crime by shrinking the black market, which is rife with predators; two, fewer people participate in the drugs that are legally available (as so I've read second hand, anyway); three, more money for the gubment to build media propaganda supporting those drugs which have been reported upon and peer reviewed to have benefits for use; four, those who can't handle the deadlier drugs weed themselves out of the population, helping to strengthen the species through natural selection. Eventually, the industry of processed drugs will disappear entirely as more people focus on healthier drugs, whether medicinal or recreational. We'll be living much closer to nature, and perhaps even we shrink the pharmaceutical industry down as those drugs get phased out.

(01-28-2012, 08:22 PM)h3rm35 Wrote: I´m no big fan of Soros, and not a fan of the globalizing, deregulating Clinton administration, nor gore as their tree-hugging poster boy/human pencil holder. However I actually read his book ¨The Assualt on Reason,¨ and it was a scathing critique of money in politics, the juggernaut media, the evisceration of civil liberties, and the perversion that the US´ government has become from the intentions of the framers of the constitution. Everything else he´s ever done is crap, but I think he had an attack of conscience there, and it´s one of the best examinations of American politics in recent years (if you can get through the small sections of self - aggrandizing global warming crap.)

I´m almost tempted, because of that book, to think that the guy actually believes his Cap-and-trade, carbon credit bullshit is something more than a dollar-generating-machine.

Worth checking out for it. Haven't yet gotten through all the one's I've downloaded. So much data.
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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01-29-2012, 09:44 AM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
(01-27-2012, 10:22 AM)capnchronic Wrote:


I know I'm derailing the thread if I ask this... but did you hear them mention " Christian Nationalism " ? Shocked

I didn't even know this movement exists... Icon_eek

Looked it up last night.... and it was exactly what i presumed it to be. Tear

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01-31-2012, 01:58 PM,
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RE: Newt Gingrich Proposed The Death Penalty For Possession Of Marijuana
So basically he wants the death penalty for CIA and US army personnel that are carrying out the heroine and cocaine drug trafficking? I couldn't agree more with this. And since Obama is the commander-in-chief, he should be executed for the huge increase to the opium trade in Afghanistan since the US army invasion.
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