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Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
12-17-2011, 11:38 AM,
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Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering

December 8, 2011

By DAVID GEROW IRVING — In May of this year Australians were outraged by the news that Australian cattle exported to Indonesia for slaughter had been brutally tortured in Indonesian abattoirs. But while the scandal was attributed to the poor training of Indonesian workers, a close inspection of slaughterhouse methods reveals that cruelty is an ...

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01-04-2012, 10:03 PM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
i find this information depressing but very important.
if you're reading this reply, please article in the link posted above.
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01-07-2012, 12:50 PM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
All go Gerson style eating. No cruelty and no cancer. All win situation.
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01-08-2012, 06:20 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
Throwing a good sense of fear into an animal before slaughtering it adds extra flavour to the meat. I don't mind it at all, and am more likely to buy from a butcher with similar ideals than from others.

Why would anyone use Gerson therapy if their chances of contracting cancer are lower than other people? If you have no immunological issues, only extreme environmental vectors have the capablity to allow tumours, malignant or otherwise, to set in.
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01-08-2012, 06:32 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering

You get much better meat when the animal is not stressed before the "crime"
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01-08-2012, 11:43 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
please dont use a moral argument to food. don't want to inconvenience other animals to get fed?

one word answer. pesticide.

Yes thats right. your fruit and veg wants eating by other animals. farmers would prefer that animal to not eat his greens. he makes preparations to safeguard his crop. you think that shot gun is just to scare them? you think hes fine having rabbits eating his cabbage?

Dont want to hurt other animals in order to live? kill yourself.
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01-10-2012, 01:16 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
(01-08-2012, 06:20 AM)thokling Wrote: Throwing a good sense of fear into an animal before slaughtering it adds extra flavour to the meat. I don't mind it at all, and am more likely to buy from a butcher with similar ideals than from others.

Why would anyone use Gerson therapy if their chances of contracting cancer are lower than other people? If you have no immunological issues, only extreme environmental vectors have the capablity to allow tumours, malignant or otherwise, to set in.

Lower but not zero by a long shot. How about to expel the man toxins you will pick up even by eating an organic mainly raw diet? Well I hope it works out for you.
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01-10-2012, 07:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-10-2012, 07:29 AM by thokling.)
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
Before I continue, I will admit that my "adrenaline" comment was used most facetiously, and note that recent research indicates that beef (and perhaps other red meats) can end up darker when the animal is stressed during slaughter.

Between the time the animal is slaughtered and chilled, glycolysis in the muscle tissue changes glycogen (a polysaccharide that acts as a secondary long-term energy storage molecule, similar to plant starch) to lactic (milk) acid. This results in the meat's pH level to drop from its neutral level of 7.2 (the typical level in live animals). The amount of pH drop is based on the amount of glycogen available for this conversion.

Beef appears to be generally desireable when its pH ranges from 5.3 to 5.7. A lower glycogen level can result in a higher pH as there's not enough to be converted to the lower-pH lactic acid, thereby leading to an increased chance of dark cut beef. Dark cut beef can also have a sticky texture, can be more susceptible to bacterial growth, and loses moisture during the cooking process leading to a rather dry meal.

Other red meats, like bison, are apparently more edible than beef if dark cut, but the meat can be unattractive to consumers. I haven't seen any reports that indicate this applies to birds or fish, but there still may be similar concerns.

By lowering the stress in an animal before it's slaughtered, one ultimately increases the amount of lactic acid, which reduces the amount of dark cut effect. The meat industry loses, judging from what little research is available, around 5 bucks per animal due to dark cutting.

As far as the welfare of animals goes, there's plenty enough money floating around to encourage the current system to change. I have neither the money, the expertise nor the time to set up such an endeavour at this point, but it would indeed be an interesting long-term project.

However, I'm certainly not giving up meat to satisfy the whims of anyone who doesn't want to put any effort into changing a system they don't like. Expecting others to change to suit the needs of oneself is a standard paradigm, but it never works, and those with such expectations end up disappointed in the long run.

(01-08-2012, 06:20 AM)thokling Wrote:
(01-10-2012, 01:16 AM)nwo2012 Wrote: Why would anyone use Gerson therapy if their chances of contracting cancer are lower than other people? If you have no immunological issues, only extreme environmental vectors have the capablity to allow tumours, malignant or otherwise, to set in.

Lower but not zero by a long shot. How about to expel the man toxins you will pick up even by eating an organic mainly raw diet? Well I hope it works out for you.

The amount of research available for organic diets is pathetic. Raw veggies are generally good, but keep in mind that some must be cooked in order to remove toxins, such as potatoes. Greens generally don't require more than a good cleaning, though, and those are the ones that have the toxin-flushing impact you're looking for.

It's also impossible to remove all toxins from a body. Some have the ability to latch on for life. This is a risk of living, though. ;>

Every individual has their own dietary needs. I prefer my own methodology based on my own criteria, which includes genetics (both maternal and paternal, although this doesn't appear to relate as strongly to cancer as has been reported), nutrition, psychology, biology (including a smattering of neurology), philosophy and physics. This is my own tool kit, and I don't expect others to follow it.

You've got your own criteria, too, and for me to tell you to eat more meat would be arrogant of me, so why would you suggest that I change my diet based on your own critera? That's completely irresponsible on your part. One diet does not work for everyone, and there has been ample evidence of this published. An individual must choose for themselves what diet works best.

Anyone who has cancer or any other disease must explore all options. Do some Internet research first, talk to your doctor (who is hopefully competent enough to refer you to a competent specialist), choose to live, and act accordingly. Doing what other people tell you to is pointless without research to see the effects of such actions.
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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01-10-2012, 09:52 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
A very good response thokling, as always. My Gerson post was a more a knee-jerk reaction and short answer. I do not advocate every one eat as I do nor think it would suit every individual. I do in fact still eat raw (well it is cooked by the marinade I use and also been treated with parasite killing herbs) grass-fed organic beef from time to time. Yes I am aware you can not remove all toxins but certainly coffee enemas as great for cleaning the liver and mopping up free radicals with the increase glutathione s.transferase release.
Again I know which raw vegetables to eat and which need to be cooked. I do not eat 100% raw but I do make sure that every meal has at least 60% raw content whether it is done by just drinking a freshly pressed vegetable juice alongside a meal or otherwise. I dont care about research as they find what they want to and usually have an agenda and carcinogenic pesticides are just that regardless of what agri-businness says.
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01-10-2012, 12:12 PM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
I'd love to know more about the marinade you use, especially the parasite-killing herbs. First I've heard that such plants exist.

You'll certainly find a lot of personal agendae in studies spanning across history. The trick, I've found, is to seek multiple sources (at least three, and six is good) with solid research and methods. It must also be peer reviewed and replicable. Personal experience, as has already been noted, is also pretty damned valuable as a foundation for validating the studies.

In all, though, there's quite a bit of information available on this - so much that it's difficult to really get a good view with just an hour's seeking. To be effective, personal health management should be an ongoing process.

Do you notice any immediate benefits with your diet?
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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01-11-2012, 05:37 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
Parasite killing herbs: wormwood, cloves and green walnut hulls (tincture)
Firstly I soak the beef, or sometimes liver, for 2 hours or so in the above. (I make a brew if wormwood and ground cloves, allow to cool and add the walnut tincture then soak the meat in that mixture).
Then I use some raw organic apple cider vinegar, freshly squeezed lemon juice, a bit of cayenne pepper and turmeric (number one cancer fighting herb). Let the meat cook in that blrnd( no heat) over 4-5 hours). Then cut the meat into very fine slices and serve with lots of raw greens. Arguably the healthiest way to eat meat. Works best with top beef cuts such as eye fillet. Yum.

Well since moving over to this way of eating, alongside coffee enemas (at least trice daily), I now feel like a teenager again. Very high energy levels, no more insomnia (I have to work rotating shifts). When I used to go a number of days on little sleep, due to overtime and nightshifts, I would tend to have swollen neck glands. Well now this never happens, never a sniffle even when viruses are rampantly spearing through all my work colleagues. Blood pressure around 110/60 and more effects that are too numerous to list.
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01-12-2012, 12:22 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
Interesting that. I tend to use turmeric (not just curry) in my own cooking, and prefer apple cider vinegar over regular vinegar, particularly if I'm making a dressing for salad. The important point, which you've appeared to have confirmed, is whether or not it's palatable.

Many thanks for that. I've copied the data into a text file. The only weird parts of it (to me) are the wormwood and green walnut hulls. On another note, out of curiosity, I screamed on over to Science Daily and PhysOrg and conducted a couple of searches on each: one for wormwood and one for walnut. A couple of articles relating to wormwood came up:

High Dose of Oxygen Enhances Natural Cancer Treatment, Researchers Find
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110404142813.htm
Quote:...using artemisinin [isolated from wormwood] or high-pressure oxygen alone on a culture of human leukemia cells reduced the cancer cells' growth by 15 percent. Using them in combination reduced the cells' growth by 38 percent, a 50 percent increase in artemisinin's effectiveness.

Scientists develop new cancer-killing compound from salad plant
http://www.physorg.com/news143126379.html

And a shitload for walnuts:

Breast Cancer Risk Drops When Diet Includes Walnuts, Researchers Find
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110901163921.htm

Biochemists develop new method for preventing oxidative damage to cells
http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-biochemists-method-oxidative-cells.html

Walnuts, walnut oil, improve reaction to stress
http://www.physorg.com/news205387690.html

Walnuts slow prostate tumors in mice
http://www.physorg.com/news188487627.html

Eating fish, omega-3 oils, fruits and veggies lowers risk of memory problems
http://www.physorg.com/news114109578.html

It's obvious by now that substances can work together to prevent ailments so long as the substances don't interact harmfully.
Truth appears in many forms. Find those that resonate with you.

- "If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we do not believe in it at all." - Noam Chomsky
- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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01-12-2012, 04:28 AM,
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RE: Change Your Diet & Help Save Animals From a Life of Suffering
Yep indeed they have numerous properties but with regards to parasites, using all three herbs will ensure the parasites, their larvae and also eggs are destroyed. It's from Hulda Clark's work (well she just brought it back to light, it is older research. Now yes she is a bit crazy but some of her stuff is spot on. Some other stuff is nutty as hell though.
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