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Lab Chimps See Sunlight For The First Time
09-06-2011, 07:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-06-2011, 07:09 PM by drummer.)
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THIS is the moment a group of chimpanzees sees daylight for the first time in 30 years — after being locked in cages for medical testing.

The animals hugged each other in delight before they took their first steps outside.

The chimpanzees were taken from their mothers shortly after their births and brought to a research facility in Austria.

Scientists kept the animals in isolation and gave them HIV and hepatitis. Their ordeal finally ended when the pharmaceutical company behind the research was sold.

The chimps were moved to a farm where keepers tried to reintroduce them to life outside — but the process was not easy.

The animals had spent so much time inside they were confused when shown patches of grass — and repeatedly threw them away.

But finally their moment of freedom came. And their keeper Renate Foidl said: "The chimps are incredibly happy. This is amazing, I have been waiting for this moment for so long."
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09-06-2011, 07:23 PM,
RE: Lab Chimps See Sunlight For The First Time
Powerful stuff.
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09-07-2011, 12:47 AM,
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09-07-2011, 09:20 AM,
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This is the pre pre prequal to planet of the apes.
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09-07-2011, 10:36 PM,
RE: Lab Chimps See Sunlight For The First Time
Pretty moving! It's great when people do things for others, even animals, for no other reason than to help them, and when the animals have been subjected to such suffering, it's great to see such positive behaviour so suddenly. Poor chimps.
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09-08-2011, 02:02 PM,
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(09-07-2011, 10:36 PM)Dunamis Wrote: Pretty moving! Poor chimps.
Testing on primates should be against medical practice, if we need to test something whats the matter with the million or so life long incarcerated. would yield better results also as there actually human.

recently saw the rise of the planet of the apes and thought it well done and accurate in how folks would respond to a local ape sized primate or larger if one were in the neighborhood, look how some folks in suburbia treat dogs of others...

And they are very tribal and protective if not cage raised, even more so then a dog, shit most long term captive chimps have a form of sign showing that were they to have vocal cords we'd be able to relate to them like a kid with downs or some other limiting handy cap, but some have tested at a 65 IQ which is impressive for even some geographical area of humans LOL
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09-08-2011, 10:48 PM,
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(09-08-2011, 02:02 PM)Deathaniel Wrote: Testing on primates should be against medical practice, if we need to test something whats the matter with the million or so life long incarcerated. would yield better results also as there actually human.

It would be, in terms of our genetic imperative, irresponsible to experiment on humans over animals. All species are designed to first serve their immediates in a hierarchal fashion; for instance: clan first, species next, and everything else last, if at all.

There appear to be far more ethical questions involved with using humans as guinea pigs. Granted, using inmates serving life sentences with no possibility of parole, or those on death row, might seem better suited to those of a spiritual mindset. However, don't forget that some of those in prison are innocent, if history is to be judged.

Hence, medical experiments would then potentially be conducted on regular citizens wrongfully convicted of crimes. The problem is not knowing who's truly guilty or innocent, because we humans fuck it up from time to time.

The only other option appears to be for us to embrace pain, disability and death. I'm not anti-human, however, so my vote would be cast for continued testing on animals to advance the human race.

However, if it helps massage that nurturing instinct in some, results of said testing can eventually apply to animals as well. The only thing I have against animal testing is that it's an awful waste of good meat, but it's for a good cause.
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