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Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
08-30-2011, 12:29 PM,
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Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
Quote:Astronomers monitoring Comet Elenin have noticed the comet has decreased in brightness the past week, and the coma is now elongating and diffusing. Some astronomers predict the comet will disintegrate and not survive perihelion, its closest approach to the Sun.

On August 19, a massive solar flare and coronal mass ejection hit the comet, which may have been the beginning of the end for the much ballyhooed lump of ice and dirt.

“We’ve been following it in the STEREO spacecraft images and a number of amateurs have been following it in their telescopes,” said Australian amateur astronomer Ian Musgrave, author of the Astroblog website. “Shortly after the coronal mass ejection the comet flared up and you could see some beautiful details in the tail, with the tail was twisting about in the solar wind. But shortly after that Earth- bound amateurs reported a huge decrease in the intensity of the comet. We think it may presage a falling apart of the comet.”

One journalist joked that maybe Comet Elenin just couldn’t take all the doomsday talk and publicity.

“It really has been a beautiful little comet and it deserves a better fate than to be overhyped by doom-sayers,” said Musgrave.

Elenin is a long period comet originating from the outer edges of our solar system, and Musgrave noted that comets coming from the Oort cloud which are making their first pass through the solar system tend to be under-performers in terms of brightness. “They don’t brighten as quickly as comets that come around more than once,” he said, “and in looking at the relationship between the brightness and the distance from the Sun, we find empirically that comets that brighten on roughly the same speed as Elenin tend to be likely to fall apart at perihelion.”

However, Musgrave added, each comet is unique. “Some comets will survive and some won’t. The fact that this comet decreased in brightness after the CME, possibly indicates that the comet will not survive. Another possibility is that merely the CME wiped away the coma — the bright cloud of particles around the comet — and the volatiles of the comet might take awhile to come back and recreate the coma, if it does survive.”

Elenin’s mass is smaller than average and its trajectory will take it no closer than 34 million km (21 million miles) of Earth as it circles the Sun. It will make its closest approach to Earth on October 16th, but be closest to the Sun on Sept. 10.

Another Australian amateur Michael Mattiazzo has been taking images of the comet (see his website, Southern Comets) and he has noticed that the nucleus appears to be elongating. When that occurs, usually the comet disintegrates or splits apart. Above is an animation Mattiazzo created from images he took of Comet Elenin on August 19, 22, 23, 27 & 29.

You can see a wide-field view of the comet by astrophotographer Rob Kaufmanns, comparing the view from August 19, 23 and 26 at this link.

A similar process took place just a few weeks ago with another comet, 213P Van Ness.

Do comets break apart often?

“You don’t see it it that often, but it happens surprisingly more than people think,” Musgrave said. “Van Ness just happened, but ever couple of years there is a comet that visibly breaks up into fragments, maybe about 6 comets in the last 10 years — excluding the Kreutz-sun-grazer family of comets which split and vaporize on a regular basis.”

Unfortunately, the likely demise of Comet Elenin hasn’t put a lid on the doomsdayers who have predicted earthquakes or three days of darkness or a collision with Earth.

“The doomsdayers are just saying that more bad things will happen!” laughed Musgrave. “But you have to remember that when a comet breaks up, the fragments stay in the same orbit. If it evaporates, you’ll have a mass of rubble and gas on the same orbit. People don’t seem to get that space is big, really big, and when a comet breaks up it follows Newtons Laws and the fragments will slowly draw apart, but over the timescale that we see them, the difference will be so miniscule.”

Photo's and links here....
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08-30-2011, 01:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-30-2011, 01:59 PM by Deathaniel.)
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
Elenin is the harbinger not the destroyer it's self, and if it does disintegrate before perihelion awesome as that should prove it is not in fact the blue star of Hopi prophesy. the negative of that is like haleys it's made mostly of hydrogen cyanide a very poisonous gas earth going through the remainder of the debree field or if it is pushed with solar winds towards our orbital path could vote very ill for the earth as not just humans are il effected but all of the planets ecosystems if such a poisonous cloud were to mix with our own atmosphere. Sure it's not enough to wipe us all out but many will get sick and die and food will sky rocket in prices!!!

an interesting vid and marking the time line (not in agreement with it all mind you but for us internet tv time wasters)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMILqaYX3Y

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08-30-2011, 06:22 PM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
(08-30-2011, 01:57 PM)Deathaniel Wrote: it's made mostly of hydrogen cyanide a very poisonous gas earth going through the remainder of the debree field or if it is pushed with solar winds towards our orbital path could vote very ill for the earth
The reason WHY hydrogen cyanide is dangerous to living creatures is that it is a GAS, and the carbon-to-nitrogen bond is a TRIPLE bond, which reacts easily with haemoglobin and other essential metabolic biochemicals.
However, it also reacts easily with sunlight and water and oxygen when they are present together, to form a whole array of neat and harmless compounds.
That is what you find in Earth's atmosphere...
Even though the tail of a comet may be millions of miles long, there isn't much material in it.
Consider it no different from Julius Caesar's dying exhalation - "Et tu, Brute?" - a molecule of which you inhale with every breath you take.

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09-02-2011, 04:06 AM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
are comets hot or cold? why do some emit x rays?
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09-05-2011, 03:44 AM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
Elenin was/is just a comet, however it had been converted into a "tow boat" of sorts thousands or millions of years ago by the Anunnaki. Its particular electromagnetic signature was being used to tow the mysterious brown dwarf "Nibiru" into orbit enough to cause the changes prophesied by so many as well as massive changes recorded into geological records well in the past.

This is what ancient societies had known from direct experience. Using their advanced mathematics, they desired to warn future civilisations of such impending doom through simple language by calculating the orbits, degradations and all, of these and temporally associated bodies. They had not realised, sadly, how cynical peoples of the Earth would have become when faced with such "fantastic stories" due to government misinformation.

Recently, however, higher-level density entities caused a CME to separate from our star, propelled by a solar flare, and directed it to collide with Elenin in an attempt to break the attractive force between Elenin and Nibiru. The chances of such a collision occurring naturally are phenomenally low, you'll agree.

The ultimate goal after negating the attraction between Elenin and Nibiru was to then allow the gravitational attraction between Sol and Nibiru to take over and suck Nibiru into the sun to render it harmless, thus preventing societal destruction by the drifting brown dwarf.

And thus ends the legacy of the Anunnaki. So say we all.
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09-05-2011, 04:12 AM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
That was a wonderful story thokling.
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09-05-2011, 10:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-05-2011, 10:56 AM by thokling.)
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You're welcome, Nokturnal. You may sleep well knowing that Armageddon has been averted by a bunch of magical elves.

Earth: Where life is beautiful all the time, and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats...
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09-05-2011, 11:38 AM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
Comet ELENIN - Yet Another Illuminati Hoax 2011.08.21
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=25150
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=42196

Massive devastating asteroids (massive death rays, a nuclear holocaust or giant solar flares) not much we can do about that save for acquiring a pass for an underground base or migrating to another goldilocks planet.

Do what you can within your means like deprogramming children, setting up a barter network or growing a garden for instance.

Nothing to fear with these Doomsday prophecies but fear itself .. and how that makes people react.. and how puppeteers plan to manipulate that desired reaction.
There are no others, there is only us.
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09-05-2011, 12:06 PM,
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RE: Comet Elenin.... Disintegrating...
(09-05-2011, 11:38 AM)FastTadpole Wrote: Comet ELENIN - Yet Another Illuminati Hoax 2011.08.21
http://concen.org/tracker/torrents-details.php?id=25150
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=42196

Massive devastating asteroids (massive death rays, a nuclear holocaust or giant solar flares) not much we can do about that save for acquiring a pass for an underground base or migrating to another goldilocks planet.

Do what you can within your means like deprogramming children, setting up a barter network or growing a garden for instance.

Nothing to fear with these Doomsday prophecies but fear itself .. and how that makes people react.. and how puppeteers plan to manipulate that desired reaction.

Totally agreeing here. If there is to be a great disaster causing massive shifts in the way we want life to be, there's nothing we can do to avoid it (save perhaps a mass psychic blast by a large enough section of humanity at whatever is causing the disaster).

If armageddon occurs, and if we survive it, hunting and foraging are certainly first on the list. I wonder if our numbers'll get back down to the 10,000 or so we allegedly started out with as nomads.
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