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Why we have to protect the Jews
08-10-2011, 02:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-10-2011, 02:07 AM by OTO.)
#16
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
We are debating Jews. I'm trying to explain my experience of debating with them. My conclusion is there is a very big gap from Non Jews to the Jewish culture. Non Jews don't understand the Jewish community and what we don't understand is something that fear us. When the lack of understanding is mixed in with paranoia that Jews run everything, it creates more problems.

What they told me:
"religious Jews have kept out traditions for many thousands of years and we will continue to do so. Basically we don't believe we really need anyone elses help aside from the Master of the Universe {Ribbono Shel Olam}. But we do have an imperative which the liberal Jews have hi-jacked called 'Tikkun Olam' or 'Rectifying this World' which involves a Jew doing whatever he can to make this world a better place. This usually leads the progressive liberal Jew to help causes like homosexual rights {which we don't condone} and civil rights {which Jews have gotten virtually no credit and much harm from}... But for Orthodox Jews 'Tikkun Olam' means doing what we can to make peace in this world by helping our fellow human beings."
08-10-2011, 02:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 08-10-2011, 02:40 AM by Deathaniel.)
#17
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-09-2011, 10:05 PM)Mike_Smith Wrote: Go move to Israel OTO and piss off.

couldn't have said it better..... shit

since it looks like this is not a gag thread let me add some.....Eatdrink007

First off Lucifer and the jew god are one and the same, the god/ alien known in history as Enki, the rebellious material "god" so to make it sound like two different "gods" is showing a lack of true knowledge.

The "good" god if there could be a good god remember we were created to be slaves and serve /worship. Not sure if such a being can have a good god being a construct... but thats another post. The closest we understand to the true spirituality of the universe according to countless ET contactee's is the Buddhist philosophy of balance and peace. The universal spark of life acknowledged but not worshiped in the cosmos.

Religion is part of what keeps us in the "too primitive" to be able to join with past cycles of humans who have colonized or other species of life. Some times they break the rules to try to curve the plans of the other side, but not always as gods in the modern era they are recognized for what they are but the message is not changed, just now it has a dire warning tone to it, but it probablyIcon_biggrin always did.

if the jew and isreal were to survive the coming EOD, it is because the aliens who created us needs to keep some of there experiment/ servants alive to re seed the world after it is washed clean that 99% cull we all know is in the works.

Will the "cosmic creator come to save us? or good aliens.... maybe the later not the first, as the cosmic spark of life is not a sentient and aware deity, something our conditioned minds need but that doesn't truly exist. what does exist is instinct. So what is your instinct OTO....?

lets save the jew......Barf They'll probably be saved as they serve a purpose, and have multiple plans to ensure they survive like cock roaches. If you believe that then you hop to it but please for humanity's sake don't plug such b-shit!!!!

The real answer folks (but not folks like you OTO, you go do what you said you're going to do) is save yourself and loved ones start learning how to survive without a grocer and running water, in the cold and dark, so it's not just the Jew who survives the apocalyptic era with there most useful specimens in there bunker towns. Or worse just the super zionists of Isreal under some ET based defense as the world is scorched clean. in times past there were "other" smaller less prepared (but prepared enough to survive) bands of humans who survived past EOD's, whither it happens in your life time or not only those who DESERVE to die don't see the value in learning the skills needed to survive and being prepared just in case.

Put the false deities and thousands of year old propaganda (constantly edited I might add) re souls and shit if you are worried bout end times it's a cop out to be worried bout the soul side of it cause it's a mute point your going to die either way. whither it's old at 90 in bed, or when your town is washed away by a massive tsunami. to get right with god @ the end so you don't suffer damnation!!! Is so missing the point if and big if there is an after life, any who believe repenting @ the end will get you in is not only stupid, but is also thinking there all knowing all powerful god is also Stupid!!!

One thing OTO said that [could] be true is that one with a dark heart doesn't get to go to the warm and fuzzy after life (if it exists, & if it's even divided), Thats one small spark of hope in that not very many jews and near no zionists will make it to such a place were it to exist as there dominating, materialistic and deceit, would render them to the less pleasant after life where if Lord Enki is still sentient, he may in fact rule, letting them get what they want which is to be with there "Lord" in the after life.

ENd of point your going to die either way you can just have a say in when and how. Eat organic (that you know is like grow your own or communal grows etc), drink alcohol it flushes the body of many toxins made from chems to keep food "fresh" avoid any pill or medicine unless it's antibiotics and use sparingly when needed only. The body if well fed is strong and will cure most ailments and pain shapes a person for the times to come so "it hurts" is a bitch line unless it's broke!

Stay in some form of shape either cardio, strength or skills and have a bug out bag. A basic plan for you and your loved ones and a good gun / crossbow (my choice) wouldn't be bad either, other wise live your life don't dwell on it (definitely don't be talking from the roof tops to every ear, if they are on the path enlighten and commune further, but most of the sheeple will think you just a loon or on a cult band wagon to hear most EOD stuff, remember 99% die it's not your job to save any of them who don't want to be saved. It is your job to save yourself though and your loved ones, don't wait on the jew ... sorry Fema to do it for you.

AS for is now the EOD. I believe it is, either from outside forces like asteroids and rogue planets, or from they have there tech set up and bunkers built to enact the great plan with toys like HAARP, and Extra planetary anti grav craft, self sustaining energies and the like. They plan to survive but cull the majority of us and as most think it will never happen and it's ok to be fat lazy and stupid they will get what they want as they HAVE FOR THE PAST 60 YEARS....

They don't need our help, and they get enough now from all of us unwillingly to offer anymore by choice. My Tax Dollars hard @ work. Sad
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08-10-2011, 03:19 AM,
#18
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
Israel (men, women and children) are going to be targeted by the anti-Jewish countries that have them surrounded. Much of that provocation aggression lies at the feet of the military, bankster and government policy. It has been shaped culturally as there is a victim mentality installed from childhood.

It's a polarized issue to disrupt what remains of Christian/Muslim/Jewish harmony. I'd suggest advocating peace as best you can but being removed from that hotspot I'll concentrate my efforts locally.

More thoughts on that here (mine included):

The anti-Israeli conspiracy
http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=40391

I agree we should protect the innocents as best we can, plenty of Israelis that have nothing to do with this will be caught in the crossfire of the upcoming holy war. They have been surrounded, China and Russia are backing some military regimes. The US, British, French, German, Australian governments have done their parts (big and small) in funding, arming, selectively sharing intel and training both sides.

It's become more anti-Jew in the region especially with the manufactured Egyptian leadership change that has done a 180 degree turn on Israeli policy and opened up the Suez to massive arms shipments that started almost immediately as was warned with history to back it up.

It's a powder keg. If I were in Israel it's time to get out like.. yesterday. The so called 'elite' fled to Germany and other places long ago.
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08-10-2011, 04:41 PM,
#19
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-09-2011, 10:05 PM)Mike_Smith Wrote: Go move to Israel OTO and piss off.

Better yet, I hear they have some nice condos in Gaza worth looking into... Byebye
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08-10-2011, 05:03 PM,
#20
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
OTO Wrote:1430 BCE Slavery in Egypt. (Passover)
BULLSHIT!
absolutely no historical, archaeological or contemporary evidence of the time to support that claim at all....
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08-10-2011, 08:33 PM,
#21
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-09-2011, 10:05 PM)Mike_Smith Wrote: Go move to Israel OTO and piss off.

LMAO!!!
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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08-10-2011, 09:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-10-2011, 09:46 PM by OTO.)
#22
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
Sheep central!

Don't mess with my swimming-pool Bisphenol A, Fluoride sheepheads!
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08-11-2011, 01:00 AM,
#23
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-10-2011, 02:02 AM)OTO Wrote: What they told me:
"religious Jews have kept out traditions for many thousands of years and we will continue to do so. Basically we don't believe we really need anyone elses help aside from the Master of the Universe {Ribbono Shel Olam}. But we do have an imperative which the liberal Jews have hi-jacked called 'Tikkun Olam' or 'Rectifying this World' which involves a Jew doing whatever he can to make this world a better place. This usually leads the progressive liberal Jew to help causes like homosexual rights {which we don't condone} and civil rights {which Jews have gotten virtually no credit and much harm from}... But for Orthodox Jews 'Tikkun Olam' means doing what we can to make peace in this world by helping our fellow human beings."

This was only posted yesterday: http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=56666.50 So I gather the other poster is yourself, which means that you are making this up as you go friend, not the best way to conduct conversations really.

(08-10-2011, 09:35 PM)OTO Wrote: Sheep central!

And you go and jump with the insulting EVERYONE here yet again. And after FastTadpole replied in a completely respectful and polite manner.

And have I not been doing my utmost to have two way conversation with you for weeks now? Have you ever asked my views on Israel? And you call this place Sheep Central?

I think you will find that you have more in similar to those insulting you that you realise, emotionalism.

Don't go down that path, especially if you express it with such statements, because it is seeming more and more that you presume all people from one place (concen), one religion (Judaism) are all the same as each other. That's never the case.

You might think all practising Jews are good people and that all Concen members are sheep. But you'd be wrong.
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08-11-2011, 01:30 AM,
#24
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
I'm out of here. Total waste of time.
08-11-2011, 01:50 AM,
#25
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-11-2011, 01:30 AM)OTO Wrote: I'm out of here. Total waste of time.

If you think all you have said is a waste of time, then clearly it wasn't that important to you, and being short with people and high and mighty seems to suit you.

Come back when you are prepared to be what you bang on about all the time, a peace-maker, or at least someone willing to have a two way conversation.

The sad thing is you always seem to give people who just name call and insult you an adequate response, but those who take the time simply get short replies and often reasonable questions ignored.
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

https://duckduckgo.com/
08-11-2011, 12:44 PM,
#26
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
I think this is a good posting technique to get lots of people posting. Like maybe I should post stuff like " The New World is really gonna be great for everybody", or there was no conspiracy with 911 towers. Just to get people pissed lol.
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

As a reputed atheist, the reverential nature of his film was surprising, but Pasolini himself said &If you know that I am an unbeliever, then you know me better than I do myself. I may be an unbeliever, but I am an unbeliever who has a nostalgia for a belief.&


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08-12-2011, 04:29 AM,
#27
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
@OTO
If people don't agree with a particular world view does not mean you should flee just because of that. I recall I enjoyed debating folks on Digg and other places against a massive negative response (pre-climategate) with facts, my own math and science for AGW and I'd like to think my 1000+ comments (now deleted) shed some light on the partisan issue and suggested alternative causes for tree-huggers that we hijacked to bear the global warming banner. The fact that your posts, although one-sided, brought an alternative perspective from an off the norm angle, at least in these parts.

Just because you lack support or something isn't popular does not mean you are wrong. It does force you to dig a little deeper to present a case though and I'd encourage you to do so in a way that cannot be denoted cherry picking.

It's true that conspiracy culture forces some opinions but I'd like to think ConCen is a place that sees against that sort of closed minded view.

If you have really hung up your ConCen Forum megaphone then all I have to say is..

   
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08-12-2011, 02:53 PM,
#28
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
(08-11-2011, 12:44 PM)Weyland Wrote: I think this is a good posting technique to get lots of people posting. Like maybe I should post stuff like " The New World is really gonna be great for everybody", or there was no conspiracy with 911 towers. Just to get people pissed lol.

Trolling does usually get people to respond. And thats what he's doing. He's been doing this shit forever. He's made threads about "Why we should love the elite", and other nonsense. If he's really trying to get a cross his own realistic thoughts, while debating specific points, then he sucks at it. I cant help but feel he doesnt even genuinly mean what he's saying.
I remember a poster named OTO back in the day that was much more intellectual and less of a troll. This dude seems like an imposter.
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08-12-2011, 11:16 PM,
#29
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
OTO used to be in the anti-zionist quarter. hes swung to a new extreme i feel. its forgiveable. give him some time guys.
08-12-2011, 11:47 PM,
#30
RE: Why we have to protect the Jews
I don't think we have to humour him.
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