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Get High with Hypnosis
08-08-2011, 01:48 PM,
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Hippie dude on this forum explains how he smoked weed for 30+ years and figured he could just use the power of his mind to step into a state of stoned and get high by simply hypnotizing himself. He uses it on his buddies too.

Interesting read and I believe it as I've seen hypnotists like Derren Brown do it and make people think they are drunk (video).
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08-12-2011, 06:01 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
There's no replacement to wastement. Wink
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08-12-2011, 03:25 PM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
Having to use the TOR browser every time I get this note is annoying:

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08-14-2011, 04:13 AM,
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Dunamis: Would a paid VPN service be at all useful? The monthly rates are very inexpensive, and I know numerous individuals who involve themselves in digitally frowned-upon activities who swear by SwissVPN and VPNtunnel.se (the latter of which I was using for my activities on AnonOPS IRC).
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08-14-2011, 04:30 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
Not really. If I had the spare cash I'd start by helping more and getting a seedbox, and they're only cheap really, or donate to the site (it's not like I spent this much time on other sites). Cheers for the tips though. Icon_biggrin
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

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09-20-2011, 03:48 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
Ummm.. sounds interesting.

Has anyone tried self-hypnosis for serious matters like what is claimed by the usual self-help merchandisers? What are the results like?

The forum folks' testimonials are more trustworthy than the phony marketing crap. Icon_smile
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09-20-2011, 05:29 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-20-2011, 05:32 AM by Armilus.)
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Self-hypnosis can be effective, you can also try with Autogenic training, which is simpler i think. Basically, deeper you can go (alpha and lower), and then auto-suggest something, better results you can achieve.
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Autogenic training has been subject to clinical evaluation from its early days in Germany, and from the early 1980s worldwide. In 2002, a meta-analysis of 60 studies was published in Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback, finding significant positive effects of treatment when compared to normals over a number of diagnoses; finding these effects to be similar to best recommended rival therapies; and finding positive additional effects by patients, such as their perceived quality of life.

A lot of times people have self-sabotaging beliefs, which should be resolved/changed. NLP can help with that as well.
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09-24-2011, 10:17 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
Quote:Has anyone tried self-hypnosis for serious matters like what is claimed by the usual self-help merchandisers? What are the results like?
Self hypnosis is very useful for all kinds of issues. It doesnt however work well just using cds or reading a book and doing it on yourself. The reason being that by the time you have taken yourself down to a reasonable level, you dont want to start using your conscious mind to give yourself suggestions as this will bring you out (and the whole point of hypnosis is to bypass conscious awareness). Its the equivalent of trying to get to sleep, but setting an alarm every 2 minutes to see if you are sleeping yet...

If you want to use self hypnosis, first get a qualified hypnotist to put you in trance and take it to a deep level which they can then "anchor" using eg a word, a touch etc.
This will then enable you to trigger the deep trance using this anchor and you can use an audio recording of your own voice giving suggestions whilst in this state.

If you do this make sure that ALL suggestions are stated in the positive ie what you DO want and NOT what you dont (ie you would say "I am healthy and fit" rather than "I am not ill") as the unconscious mind does not process negatives well.

Im a qualified hypnotherapist and thats how I teach it.
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09-24-2011, 11:53 AM,
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(09-24-2011, 10:17 AM)Swordfish Wrote: Self hypnosis is very useful for all kinds of issues. It doesnt however work well just using cds or reading a book and doing it on yourself. The reason being that by the time you have taken yourself down to a reasonable level, you dont want to start using your conscious mind to give yourself suggestions as this will bring you out (and the whole point of hypnosis is to bypass conscious awareness). Its the equivalent of trying to get to sleep, but setting an alarm every 2 minutes to see if you are sleeping yet...

I'm going to say "no" to this one. I've successfully achieved autosuggestion a few times in the past while working in alpha state. It was too specific for me, though, and I switched to metaprogramming (referring to the art of reprogramming the brain as opposed to self-programming programs).

Suggestions are possible under any trance state, but are best achieved through alpha-level waves. And, yes, the deeper alpha waves are best.

(09-24-2011, 10:17 AM)Swordfish Wrote: If you want to use self hypnosis, first get a qualified hypnotist to put you in trance and take it to a deep level which they can then "anchor" using eg a word, a touch etc.
This will then enable you to trigger the deep trance using this anchor and you can use an audio recording of your own voice giving suggestions whilst in this state.

If you do this make sure that ALL suggestions are stated in the positive ie what you DO want and NOT what you dont (ie you would say "I am healthy and fit" rather than "I am not ill") as the unconscious mind does not process negatives well.

Im a qualified hypnotherapist and thats how I teach it.

Doesn't work well for us do-it-yourselfers, sadly. Anything you guys can do is common sense for those of us who think heartily before we leap. However, your recommendation of semantics is most appreciated as it'll be helpful to those who do decide to try out self-hypnosis. It's one of the first things I learned, personally.
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09-24-2011, 05:28 PM,
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Quote:I'm going to say "no" to this one. I've successfully achieved autosuggestion a few times in the past while working in alpha state. It was too specific for me, though, and I switched to metaprogramming (referring to the art of reprogramming the brain as opposed to self-programming programs).
Not sure where you are going with this? Meta programs ARE self programming.

Autosuggestion (as coined by Émile Coué) is based on repetition and doesnt even require a trance state. Affirmations or positive suggestions however are one method used in trance but do not require the same repetition as this is only needed to overcome conscious objection/resistance. When one is in alpha (or other trance states) then that resistance is not present and we become "suggestible".
Stating "I am healthy and fit" is very non specific and allows the unconscious mind to decide how it manifests this. You wouldnt however get much success if you stated "I have fifty quid in my pocket" as that is very specific and also not feasible.

Quote:Suggestions are possible under any trance state, but are best achieved through alpha-level waves. And, yes, the deeper alpha waves are best.
There are a variety of brainwave/trance states which are effective, including delta, theta and others including Esdaile state (ie where the subject is catatonic).
Alpha waves are 8-12hz and when in trance are not fixed as the subjects depth of trance rises and falls.

Brain entrainment is also effective in getting a good trance state, and I recommend hypno peripheral processing. There is some good stuff on trackers if you look for it - Dr. Lloyd Glauberman has produced some god materials.
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09-25-2011, 05:25 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
(09-24-2011, 05:28 PM)Swordfish Wrote:
Quote:I'm going to say "no" to this one. I've successfully achieved autosuggestion a few times in the past while working in alpha state. It was too specific for me, though, and I switched to metaprogramming (referring to the art of reprogramming the brain as opposed to self-programming programs).
Not sure where you are going with this? Meta programs ARE self programming.

I was indicating the difference between reprogramming the brain and computer-based self-programming programs. The paradigms between the two concepts are similar in nature, but require very different approaches. The human brain operates on a more semantic premise, where a computer program is far more literal.

(09-24-2011, 05:28 PM)Swordfish Wrote: Autosuggestion (as coined by Émile Coué) is based on repetition and doesnt even require a trance state. Affirmations or positive suggestions however are one method used in trance but do not require the same repetition as this is only needed to overcome conscious objection/resistance. When one is in alpha (or other trance states) then that resistance is not present and we become "suggestible".
Stating "I am healthy and fit" is very non specific and allows the unconscious mind to decide how it manifests this. You wouldnt however get much success if you stated "I have fifty quid in my pocket" as that is very specific and also not feasible.

Good points. Only if one believes in the existence of consciously manifesting objects does that last statement make sense. The point you're making, if I'm not mistaken, is that it's easier to make autosuggestions to a receptive form of life than physical, nonliving matter. Trance states allow the suggestions to blow past the defenses, having been taken offline by the trance state.

(09-24-2011, 05:28 PM)Swordfish Wrote:
Quote:Suggestions are possible under any trance state, but are best achieved through alpha-level waves. And, yes, the deeper alpha waves are best.
There are a variety of brainwave/trance states which are effective, including delta, theta and others including Esdaile state (ie where the subject is catatonic).
Alpha waves are 8-12hz and when in trance are not fixed as the subjects depth of trance rises and falls.

Brain entrainment is also effective in getting a good trance state, and I recommend hypno peripheral processing. There is some good stuff on trackers if you look for it - Dr. Lloyd Glauberman has produced some god materials.

I was using low-frequency theta trances (about 250bpm) in particular for visualisation work. I still use them, but it's easier to switch into the state without a metronome or drumbeat now.

Thanks for the references. I'm grabbing a "hypnosis super pack" from Hex now which has stuff from Gauberman, hypnotist-guided sessions for things like speed reading and all that, and other miscellaneous stuff. I was using hypnosis for some time a while back.. well, a couple of weeks. Scared me at the time, because I was used to operating a V6 and it turned my brain into a V8. Time to check into it again!
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09-25-2011, 09:00 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
Quote:Only if one believes in the existence of consciously manifesting objects does that last statement make sense.

ha ha, no I wasnt supporting cosmic ordering. Manifesting in this context is manifesting good health or addressing something within yourself and that can be directly affected by your unconscious thought (confidence, health, sex drive etc). Thats why I said that trying to manifest 50 quid is not feasible. ...unless of course you subscribe to cosmic ordering/quantum jumping etc etc.Icon_biggrin

Quote:The point you're making, if I'm not mistaken, is that it's easier to make autosuggestions to a receptive form of life than physical, nonliving matter.
Trance states allow the suggestions to blow past the defenses, having been taken offline by the trance state.

I dont understand what you mean in the first sentence here but the second is correct (though I personally wouldnt use the term autosuggestion as this has a more specific meaning).

The analogy I would use is that the conscious mind is like a wall around a garden which protects the unconscious (the garden itself) part of the mind, and trance allows a gap in the wall to open through which different ideas (seeds) can be pushed through with the aim of them growing to fruition.

The protective function of the conscious mind is to filter thoughts and information in line with the persons beliefs values and experiences. Technically it refers to the part of the brain called the Reticular Activating System (RAS) which filters and discriminates on its behalf.

My advice to anyone who wants to download hypnosis/trance related materials is make sure its from a reliable source and by recognised practitioners as its very easy to place (non positive) subliminal messages into audio and also some contain really badly constructed affirmations and suggestions which could easily have the opposite effect to the desired one.
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09-25-2011, 09:38 AM,
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RE: Get High with Hypnosis
My preference involves books. Subliminal stuff doesn't interest me, covert or otherwise.
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- "Humans are not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one." - Leon Festinger

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