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Please HELP
05-14-2011, 11:27 AM,
Please HELP
I beg all of you to sing this petition. The UN wants to forbid usage of medicine plants & natural products like honey, our government(Jadranka Kosor) in Croatia is already signing the new law enforcement. I am rly scared what will become of this world if we dont fight the corporations like "bayer" & "gmbh" here is the link. Ty for your time Smile[/b]
05-14-2011, 02:19 PM,
RE: Please HELP
Welcome to ConCen MiMoon,

Your petition says this is going to happen two weeks ago, ie it has already happened? Plus is it the UN or the EU that is proposing this? You also don't mention what amendments you want to make in your petition, you have to spell out what you want done so that everyone has no doubt as to what your intentions are.

I think the directive should be scrapped entirely. Why give a bunch of parasites, that the majority of people didn't vote for, permission to draft laws cocncerning foods and drugs. The laws should be drafted at the grass roots level and passed by referendums at the local, provincial/state, country and global levels and then presented to the parasites with instructions to place it in the law books.

We don't need parasites making our decisions for us. IMO
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05-15-2011, 08:05 AM,
RE: Please HELP
Y im kind of noobish Smile, sry for the mistake, it the EU. This is the first time i got involved in spreading a petition so i dont know how it goes exactly.the amendments are here i think .
05-16-2011, 03:05 PM,
RE: Please HELP
Ok this is getting too scary, now they are planing to legalize for cops to go to our homes secretly & set cameras or/and mics & look at our computers for DLed movies or/and music.... jesus christ 1984 is happening :S , so what can we do to fight that, form an Internacional army of people who fight for freedom ? or protest peacefully -.- ... & be ignored...
05-17-2011, 01:43 AM,
RE: Please HELP
(05-16-2011, 03:05 PM)MiMoon Wrote: now they are planing to legalize for cops to go to our homes secretly & set cameras or/and mics & look at our computers for DLed movies or/and what can we do to fight that

Criminals hate publicity. Capture them committing their crimes and publish. The rest will happen naturally.

I have an MP3 player that also records audio. It can record for many hours, and has a surprisingly sensitive mic. I've used it successfully a few times to entrap people in their own lies. The great thing is it's hidden in plain view - they see it as merely an MP3 player and assume it can't record.

Twice my victims* have told me what I was doing was illegal - in Canada it is not illegal to secretly record someone as long as the person recording is part of the conversation. Most other jurisdictions also have this law, but you may want to check to make sure. I just told them to go ahead and call the cops to arrest me. Of course I never heard from the cops...

*In both cases it was sales people making guarantees about service after purchase at electronic/computer stores. Both times they denied they made the statements, but when I played the recordings, they caved in and honored their verbal contracts.

I highly recommend that any time you are negotiating to purchase something, you record the conversation.

I routinely used to record all phone conversations when I had a really good voice modem/linux setup. Unfortunately the modem died, and replacements are over $200. Anyway, I managed to get a ~ $300 debt to a collection agency forgiven after I played back recordings of them calling me after I told them not to call back (in Canada it is illegal for a collection agency to call you back after you tell them not to). They also claimed (after they were aware I was recording their conversations) that they would remove the debt from my credit rating. I had to threaten to report them to the CRTC if they failed to remove the credit rating flag.

Another time I told a Subaru dealer that I would not accept their replacement wheels (they were $500 EACH) unless he could guarantee that they were machined, not cast. They were cheap cast crap. He denied the conversation, and even after I played it back, refused to honor his contract. 5 minutes later I was talking to the owner who agreed to give me the wheels for free as long as I didn't publish the recording!

I've also had run-ins with U-Haul and Bell Canada. Their sales people lie all the time, as a matter of policy. In the case of Bell, I had a sales person fired for imposing a bogus $80 charge on my bill, claiming it was a "one time charge" to PURCHASE a wireless router/modem. Since they continued to charge me rent for the router, I called them up to ask why. Turns out this creep had been doing this to people who were "giving him grief" on the phone. I have a friend who works for Bell. Get this: There is a flag on my account telling agents not to lie to me because I record my phone conversations!

Anyway, I hope I've encouraged you people reading this to take back your power from these faceless corrupt corporations that prey on the weak. Don't be weak!
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05-17-2011, 01:59 AM,
RE: Please HELP
Just to note...

URGENT: Natural Medicine will be prohibited in the EU on 30th April I posted that 04-20-2011, and I thought my thread was late. Wink

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05-31-2011, 07:33 AM,
RE: Please HELP
Nice post yeti thats totally how you deal with 'em cops also,... i love remote tech it totally changes there attitude when they know your recording and it is not local the feed. LOL you gotta fight shit with a shovel Icon_biggrin
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05-31-2011, 11:41 AM,
RE: Please HELP
Here in Scotland you can record conversations without telling the other party as long as it's on analogue equipment such as tape, otherwise it an be included under the Data protection act.
so my little analogue cassette dictaphone has come in useful on a couple of occasion.
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