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Goodby-
02-23-2011, 11:26 PM,
#16
RE: Goodby-
(02-23-2011, 11:16 PM)IanPotter Wrote: With the greatest respect Yeti, may I ask whether DarKPenguiN is obligated to respond to your last post?

I believe DarKPenguiN has said what he intended to say in the section you quoted.

He chose to make the accusations not once, but twice. I'm entitled to respond to his accusations. I responded. I want clarification.

Of course he is not obligated to respond, but I'm entitled to an explanation.
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02-23-2011, 11:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 12:03 AM by Dunamis.)
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Thanks DarKPenguiN, at least you could see my points better than the other two who decided to turn up, another thing they decided to bring up over on 'hyperstage', which sadly has become the place they gather and launch collective attacks from. Often spending vast amount of time discussing concen, yeti, making multi accounts and all the toher things you'd expect from a group that want's to cause disruption and chaos (remember the anarchists in Seattle).

You do have to consider though that by simply searching through the "bitchy" threads you also miss the HUGE amount of time that these people clearly know yeti puts in, through not only uploads and general comments, but also through helping people with account issues, being the sole current coder for the site (facilitating being able to slowly move to a forum based system, an idea that goes back to Ctrl's days running the site).

And then for a guy who does all that, for free, and gives server space for the site, to come on the forums (at times after 8 hours of coding and such) to see people starting bitchy threads about changes that after a few weeks, are almost but forgotten about, especially as people become aware of the functionality of such changes.

@Riley Martin, it take a little more than that to be banned LOL I wasn't "talking shit about cybersage" but simply noting the truth about how a few users who use the cybersage shoutbox and mail system as a platform to launch farting competitions over here at concen, seeing who can blow out the most hot air in a single thread.
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02-24-2011, 02:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 02:40 AM by Bluegrazz.)
#18
RE: Goodby-
(02-23-2011, 11:26 PM)yeti Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 11:16 PM)IanPotter Wrote: With the greatest respect Yeti, may I ask whether DarKPenguiN is obligated to respond to your last post?

I believe DarKPenguiN has said what he intended to say in the section you quoted.

He chose to make the accusations not once, but twice. I'm entitled to respond to his accusations. I responded. I want clarification.

Of course he is not obligated to respond, but I'm entitled to an explanation.

With all due respect Yeti (and against my better judgment) I will try to answer your question briefly and honestly- With just a couple examples.

I personally dont think this belongs in this thread, as I planned on joining the discussions I am going to quote here, but...

First, you created a thread entitled . "WHINING ABOUT THE SITE" -which to me means "disagreeing about the sites direction" (at least thats how I took it- but no matter"...)

aceto very kindly said "@ Yeti the way it is now, it is like two different websites.. Two different log ins, cookies, templates, seems like it could be a lot better.
NOW, if there is a history betwen you and this person, I have no idea- But his post was not a flame, troll, insult or anything else demeaning- Merely his opinion in a thread you started to discuss opinions.

Yeti, you responded:I just spent 16 straight hours writing custom code to improve this site, for free, on top of God knows how many hundreds of hours already, and this is the kind of bullshit I have to put up with?

I really don't want to hear your whining. If you don't like the site, STFU or leave.


Really? Bullshit? Someone politely puts forth an opinion contrary to your own and the Site admin says "STFU or leave"
I am sure the coding on this site has been a hell of a job. God knows I couldn't do it and yes your work is greatly appreciated- BUT that doesnt mean that many people feel its a "good" direction to go in here. So they express their opinion. Not out of malice, but out of LOVE for this community... In other words, criticism isn't necessarily "trolling"- And is done because someone really cares about the site.

Silve says: I would think you wouldnt make this thread if you didnt want to hear all the whining. Just saying...

Maybe you should just close it now before more people start getting banned for whining in a thread you started."

This is kinda my own thought here and again, isnt rude, condescending etc.

But you retort: Just saying... are you blind or terminally stupid? Do you think I just made up the above comments so I could reply to them? WTF, dude, who ties your shoes for you in the morning?

FYI, I moved the comments out of other threads because people were making off thread comments.


-So you are calling people stupid, telling them to STFU, GTFO, etc.

This was completely uncalled for in my opinion and you came across as the "whiner" not the other folks.

Yeti, I am sure everyone appreciates your hard work and dedication- But that doesnt mean everyone agrees with the direction- And insulting someone who has not been insulting towards you is uncalled for, rude and as i said- Mean.

There are many other examples of this in several threads in that section, and I took nothing out of context here. I didnt want this thread to be derailed to this, nor did I want to come across as rude (and hope I didnt) but you asked me, so I answered.

I REALLY HOPE this is all just a result of being overworked and agitated. In my time here I have never gotten to know you nor even spoke with you briefly- But this "first impression" I got of our site administrator was not a real good one. I know this is a stressful time and hope that the threads (this and others) where you come across to me as rude are just a result of feeling overworked and unappreciated. EDIT: I am speaking about the thread I quoted and not saying "this thread", nor am I saying you were rude to "me"- This was all a bad choice of words I used here.

I fall in the camp of appreciating all your time and effort but also feeling that the direction we are moving in is not to my liking. Who the hell am I? Nobody... But I have an opinion and as long as we have the freedom to debate and express our opinions like adults I will express mine. I just hope it doesnt end up being a schoolyard pissing contest.

I look forward to respectfully speaking on my thoughts with you in the appropriate thread.

-Thanks for listening.




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02-24-2011, 04:06 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 04:10 AM by Mami.)
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RE: Goodby-
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"Joeblows Mamma"




Joeblow is the blame for people coming over here and talking smack about concen.

He pops in the shoutbox sayin "Ooh so and so is talkin shit about so and so over at concen" and drops a link.

So people naturally come here lookin for trouble.

Joeblow is the type of guy who likes to poke little caged animals with a stick. (He'll do it with his dick, if the animal will stay still)

Claims he's a dune coon?

I hear he's a Kurd turd?

Oh well.

Cheers
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02-24-2011, 06:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 06:32 PM by rsol.)
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RE: Goodby-
if i can jump in penguin,

Perhaps you were not aware of the changes over the past few months. The melding of the torrent and formum site for one. the logins were being changed and consolodated too. i think this is why you have had the issue. easy fix.

Now the open hostilities. I can see where you are comming from. I think it is in a possition where you are unable to see where yeti is coming from. We have a vast cross section here. some out there in cyberspace are up for the ruck rather than the truth. These people tend to argue with passion rather than intelect. Some assume that if you disagree you are a shill, cointelpro, working for "the man". This can mean for some rather heated conversation that can border on the malign.

When you make a change 20% will love it, 20% hate it. 20% didnt even notice the difference and the rest dont give a shit. the 20% in the case of the torrent/forum merge have gone with the line of freedom of speech. interesting to note, the irony of them talking on a forum about having your freedom of speech destroyed is not lost on me. it can be maddening for someone working for no money and infact i would consider this an expense for yeti. for him to have to field "questions" which normally involve someone basicaly ranting about how they cant post on a torrent comments section. THEY use words like censorship, controlling ect ect.

A few posts about such a thing would be water off a ducks back to yeti. now carry that shit on for over a month. now wait a couple of weeks then boom another person annoyed at the new system. can you see the rub? forgive yeti and dunamis.

Cybersage seems to be some sort of satelite to ConCen. Although for some reason we have many coming over for some kind of verbal ruck and even plan it in the comments section. all very childish. Im not sure who they talk shit about most TPTB or concen....


i hope this gives you some understanding of the nerve you accidentally hit.
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02-24-2011, 06:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-24-2011, 06:32 PM by Deathaniel.)
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RE: Goodby-
(02-23-2011, 09:16 PM)Mami Wrote: [Image: oihbft.jpg]

"We got Cyber Bitches"

You got Dunamis?
woooh woooh wooohSuspicious

he's just here I'm sure theres plenty of like him on this other site

as for cross site-ing Not sure as a true scholar what the problem or animosity would be against the two sites or it's members if one has many who left another then meh... other wise a good researcher looks to multiple sources to confirm what there learning is accurate. From many post here i would have to ask?!?!?!?! But in any like community there will be no planes, the beatles r aliens, and such nonsense it comes with the crowd.

from how i see it it's like two libraries being pissed at each other because the other is sharing it's books to the unwashed masses, while the other is doing like wise...


an on the look note theres a few (so i've heard hot) ladies on this site, but of course if your trolling for tail this or any like site is not the place... i can recommend those places also Smile though being the kind of guy I am......hee ha he ha
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02-24-2011, 08:32 PM,
#22
RE: Goodby-
(02-23-2011, 02:52 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:35 PM)Dunamis Wrote: Here to try and cause trouble? What would the actual point to it be?

(02-23-2011, 12:53 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: Concen (and its predecessor) were bastions of free speech, expression...
LOL

Have you seen how many members were banned before yeti took over? And the reasons many were banned for? Dude, even without the tracker data you can check the forum member list and find some revealing things. Concen is FAR more open to free speech now. But if you think calling each other names and causing pointless arguments help, I'd stick to youtube.

Funny though that it's clear people's posts are never censored and banning is not done for a simple single thing, and yet you continue to suggest that yeti (not anyone's "leader", but concen's coder and server owner, the only reason concen continued after the .net days), you suggest he should be somehow censoring himself. Undecided

(02-23-2011, 12:53 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: but the recent drama...
You do realise the drama was started by people trying to cause havoc in the comments, right? At the time it all began I was still just a user and only new to commenting, and I got put off lots by the infighting being stirred by a select few.

But no, I am sure your right, it was yeti who went to their domains and started calling them Zionist Shills and worse simply for simple differences in opinion.


Then again, all this moaning simply because your account was so very important to you that you forgot to update your email address for "years".

As your privacy isn't on, everyone can see your stats for the account you claim as yours do not match your story:

User Name: bluegrazz
Joined: 2009-09-14 03:44:07
Days Since Joining: 527
Uploaded: 154.82 GB
Downloaded: 74.99 GB
Avg Daily DL: 145.71 MB
Avg Daily UL: 300.82 MB
Torrents Posted: 0
Comments Posted: 10

Let's get that again:
DarKPenguiN Wrote:I had originally (years ago) set up my account under an email I no longer have and (apparently) I have lost my tracker account

DarKPenguiN Wrote:My handle "was" Bluegrazz...

DarKPenguiN Wrote:I signed up to share, seed and download
Okay, in reverse, download = leech, seed = seed torrents, share = upload (or possibly comment)...you have not shared. But "two out of three ain't bad", but...you lied about it, or at the very least purposefully misled, but that's on top of other false statements.

DarKPenguiN Wrote:AND have maintained an incredible ratio
LOL

DarKPenguiN Wrote:as said most are available from other sites along with "copywritten" torrents as well that are "pulled" from here
...oh no, it a sager, from where the troublemakers hatched their plots on a publicly indexed shoutbox. Wow, so they "pull" our torrents up upload them there do they,

...well people you heard it here first, from a sager themselves while trying to stir more infighting, what goes up on concen will at some point after be uploaded there. So get it while it's hot, because it hit's concen first LOL

All the other "copyrighted" stuff we can't have after being asked by copyright owners can be got on TPB, all 25 or so of them that are listed LOL

Trying to cause trouble???? Not at all.

To reply to some of your condescending attitude- Let me first state that Bluegrazz was not my "original" Concen account (not that it matters)- BUT since the end of 09 (on that account) I uploaded 154 gigs whilst downloading half that amount.

BUT- That doesnt tell the whole story. There are also the many torrent I kept alive by being the only seeder and keeping them going for months... Yes, I consider that sharing- You dont?

Anyhow, your attitude is a HUGE reflection on the problem here. Your little "laughing" emotes at a member in good standing who is leaving this site.

I am not a "sager" (whatever the hell that is) nor a troublemaker (check the 10 comments I ever posted) nor a Troll. I have never had an infraction, warning or anything, nor ever had any attention drawn top myself.

As I said. Good luck-

Werd. you sound like a VALUABLE CC member to me. JMHO. I don't what that condescending hysterical fella's attitude is all about- maybe too much BPA in his diet? Surely he should be primarily addressing your concerns on/of concen not attempting to sabotage your reasonable and not unfriendly posting.

I agree too that yeti needs a foil to keep his ego feet on the ground sometimes. jmho

I agree with you about yeti too
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02-24-2011, 09:46 PM,
#23
RE: Goodby-
(02-23-2011, 10:31 PM)yeti Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 09:17 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: I now see that it was a misunderstanding on my part as well and there IS a fix, BUT when reading through the forum I became very taken aback by the way Yeti was treating people with views he didnt agree with. He seemed rude, arrogant and.....and....Just mean to people.

OK, you have my attention now. Say what you have to say.

LOL.... what a dick!
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02-27-2011, 12:34 PM,
#24
RE: Goodby-
Okay- I'm sure this was lost in the "tide" of this thread- BUT... Could someone please link this account to my bluegrazz account so I can get back to Torrenting (the reason I am here)- As I said, this was a misunderstanding on my part for not realizing I hadnt actually lost my account for good and I did NOT come here to cause trouble.

-Thanks.
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02-27-2011, 01:10 PM,
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RE: Goodby-
(02-27-2011, 12:34 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: Okay- I'm sure this was lost in the "tide" of this thread- BUT... Could someone please link this account to my bluegrazz account so I can get back to Torrenting (the reason I am here)- As I said, this was a misunderstanding on my part for not realizing I hadnt actually lost my account for good and I did NOT come here to cause trouble.

-Thanks.

Before we can do that you'll have to sync your emails to an address you have access to.
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02-27-2011, 01:13 PM,
#26
RE: Goodby-
(02-27-2011, 01:10 PM)yeti Wrote:
(02-27-2011, 12:34 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: Okay- I'm sure this was lost in the "tide" of this thread- BUT... Could someone please link this account to my bluegrazz account so I can get back to Torrenting (the reason I am here)- As I said, this was a misunderstanding on my part for not realizing I hadnt actually lost my account for good and I did NOT come here to cause trouble.

-Thanks.

Before we can do that you'll have to sync your emails to an address you have access to.

Okay- But (honestly) I am a bigt drunk right now it being Saturday night and all =P
The email address I have use on this account is good and valid- The email account under Bluegrazz is not... How do I synchronize my accounts please?

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02-27-2011, 02:40 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-27-2011, 02:54 PM by yeti.)
#27
RE: Goodby-
(02-27-2011, 01:13 PM)DarKPenguiN Wrote: The email address I have use on this account is good and valid- The email account under Bluegrazz is not... How do I synchronize my accounts please?

Reply to the email the tracker just sent to you.
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02-27-2011, 02:41 PM,
#28
RE: Goodby-
Change your tracker email to your forum email. ( Goto "Your Account", under your Bluegrazz avatar on the tracker page, change your email there).
Decide whether you want to be DP or Bg and let us know which name you choose, post it here or send a pm.
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02-27-2011, 02:50 PM,
#29
RE: Goodby-
excuse my non technicalism- But I cannot even log into the bluegrazz account. It says the account is valid but needs to be linked to this forum (when I click the link it says "there is already a forum acct. blah blah....")
I will gladly take the Bluegrazz name (my infamous torrenting acct name lol) but dont have access to anything on that account. What am I doing wrong please?
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02-27-2011, 02:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-27-2011, 02:58 PM by yeti.)
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RE: Goodby-
(02-27-2011, 02:41 PM)icosaface Wrote: Change your tracker email to your forum email.

He can't access his tracker account. If he responds to the email I sent to his forum address, I'll fix him up.
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