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V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Practically Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
02-12-2011, 01:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 01:22 PM by Negentropic.)
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V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Practically Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3998943.ece

From The Sunday Times
May 25, 2008
Paris during Nazi occupation was ‘one big romp’
Matthew Campbell in Paris

A new book which suggests that the German occupation of France encouraged the sexual liberation of women has shocked a country still struggling to come to terms with its troubled history of collaboration with the Nazis.

Like a recent photographic exhibition showing Parisians enjoying themselves under the occupation, the book’s depiction of life in Paris as one big party is at odds with the collective memory of hunger, resistance and fear.

“It is a taboo subject, a story nobody wants to hear,” said Patrick Buisson, author of 1940-1945 Années Erotiques (“erotic years”). “It may hurt our national pride, but the reality is that people adapted to occupation.”

Many might prefer to forget but, with their husbands in prison camps, numerous women slept not only with German soldiers – the young “blond barbarians” were particularly attractive to French women, says Buisson – but also conducted affairs with anyone else who could help them through financially difficult times: “They gave way to the advances of the boss, to the tradesman they owed money to, their neighbour. In times of rationing, the body is the only renewable, inexhaustible currency.”

Cold winters, when coal was in short supply, and a curfew from 11pm to 5am also encouraged sexual activity, says Buisson, with the result that the birth rate shot up in 1942 even though 2m men were locked up in the camps.

The book has stirred painful memories. One French reviewer called it “impertinent” and another accused Buisson of telling only part of the story by focusing on the “beneath the belt” history of the occupation. Le Monde, the bible of the French intellectual elite, chided the author, who is the director of French television’s History Channel, for painting life under the occupation as a “gigantic orgy”.

People who lived through the occupation found it insulting to suggest that they spent it in bed. “It makes me really angry,” said Liliane Schroeder, 88, who risked her life as a member of the resistance and has published her own journal of the occupation. “It’s shocking and ridiculous to say life was just a big party,” she told The Sunday Times. “We had much better things to do.”

Schroeder nevertheless described her life as a messenger in the resistance as a “marvellous time” in which “people got on with life even if they weren’t laughing”. Young women were useful to the resistance, she said, because “when a young woman and a man sat in a café it did not look as if they were plotting. They looked like lovers”.

French sensitivities about the country’s wartime record were demonstrated last month when an exhibition of photographs depicting Parisians enjoying life under the Nazis included a notice explaining that the pictures avoided the “reality of occupation and its tragic aspects”. The photographs showed well-dressed citizens shopping on the boulevards or strolling in the parks. People crowded into nightclubs. Women in bikinis swam in a pool.

Buisson dedicates a chapter in his book to cinemas, which he describes as hotbeds of erotic activity, particularly when it was cold outside. “At a few francs they were cheaper than a hotel room,” he writes, “and, offering the double cover of darkness and anonymity, propitious for all sorts of outpourings.”

The French even had sex in the catacombs, the underground ossuary and warren of subterranean tunnels in Paris: war, Buisson argues, acted as an aphrodisiac, stimulating “the survival instinct”. He said in an interview: “People needed to prove that they were alive. They did so by making love.”

It has been claimed that prostitutes staged the first rebellion against the Nazis by refusing to service the invaders but Buisson called this a myth. The Germans, he claimed, were welcomed into the city’s best brothels, a third of which were reserved for officers. Another 100,000 women in Paris became “occasional prostitutes”, he said.

Elsewhere, members of the artistic elite drowned their sorrows in debauchery. Simone de Beauvoir, the writer, and Jean-Paul Sartre, the philosopher, were devotees of allnight parties fuelled by alcohol and lust.

“It was only in the course of those nights that I discovered the true meaning of the word party,” was how de Beauvoir put it. Sartre was no less enthusiastic: “Never were we as free as under the German occupation.”

De Beauvoir wrote about the “quite spontaneous friendliness” of the conquerors: she was as fascinated as any by the German “cult of the body” and their penchant for exercising in nothing but gym shorts.

“In the summer of 1940,” wrote Buisson, “France was transformed into one big naturist camp. The Germans seemed to have gathered on French territory only to celebrate an impressive festival of gymnastics.” The author said he did not want to make light of a tragic part of French history, but there was a need to correct the “mythical” image of the occupation. “In this horrible period, life continued,” he said.

“It is disturbing to know that while the Jews were being deported, the French were making love. But that is the truth.”

Now Buisson is at work on a sequel, about how women were punished for sleeping with the enemy. The provisional title is Revenge of the Males.



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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3998943.ece




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The French Resistance myth

BERNARD D. KAPLAN, Correspondent for the Hearst Newspapers
Sunday, January 21, 1996


(01-21) 04:00 PST FRANCE -- THE HEROIC French Resistance, the underground movement against the Nazis in World War II that we recall from countless movies, never existed except as a myth embellished by Hollywood.

One of the most persistent wartime images has selfless French men and women in berets and leather jackets blowing up bridges and ambushing columns of German soldiers on lonely country roads.

But a new book by historian Douglas Porch, "The French Secret Services," contends almost nothing of the sort actually happened. His account has set the French seething - all the more so since many of them are aware that what he says is absolutely true.

According to the book, even those few French who helped downed airmen often did so for the money. The standard reward for getting an escapee into Spain was about $50,000 in today's money.

Porch notes that, contrary to the myth, the French Resistance didn't rise up after D-Day, June 6, 1944, to attack Germans behind the front lines. Sabotage of the Nazi war machine was minimal.

Only about 5 percent of the French were even nominally members of the underground. Of these, scarcely any ever fired a shot in anger, dynamited a train or sent a clandestine radio message.

Albert Speer, who headed German war production, was asked after the war about the effect of the French Resistance. He replied, "What French Resistance?"

Porch's work is significant because the yawning gap between wartime reality and myth is at the center of the self-doubt that has nagged the French psyche for the last 50 years. To reassure themselves about their national merit, the French have deliberately become extremely tough customers - especially when dealing with Americans.

As was remarked by Charles Bohlen, onetime U.S. ambassador to France: "The French have never forgiven us for liberating them."

The Resistance legend was almost entirely the work of Charles de Gaulle, wartime leader of the Free French government in London, and of the French Communists. He needed to build up his otherwise weak position in the eyes of the allies.

Porch says de Gaulle persuaded Dwight Eisenhower, the Allied supreme commander, to praise the Resistance as worth an "extra six divisions."

Both men knew the claim was false, the historian contends. Eisenhower wanted to please de Gaulle and felt the French leader had been treated roughly by Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman.

French Communists coined a slogan - "the party of the 70,000 martyrs" - the number they claimed to have been executed by the Germans. The true figure, according to Porch, was fewer than 350.<

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1996/01/21/EDITORIAL9534.dtl
This article appeared on page B - of the Examiner
02-13-2011, 01:06 AM,
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
Well,, the French are well known for just rolling over and taking it, in some cases literally
02-13-2011, 01:42 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-13-2011, 01:51 AM by yeti.)
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
(02-13-2011, 01:06 AM)itsaname Wrote: Well,, the French are well known for just rolling over and taking it, in some cases literally

They're also well known for removing their monarchy. Was this a good idea or bad?

Their workers are also known for standing up to their government, unlike American workers. Do you disagree with this?

Take a walk around Paris, then tell me the French don't have something you can learn.

(02-12-2011, 01:36 PM)Negentropic Wrote: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'

May I ask what the subject has to do with Alex Jones? What's the fascination with Jones about anyway? Seriously, you're putting up articles that have nothing to do with him, yet you mention him in the title. Why?

Why are you doing the work of a provocateur?

V for Bullshit? Jones is trying to get people to realize that they are not alone in resisting tyranny - in fact they are the vast majority. So let me ask you, is this a bad idea? Is Jones' overall plan bullshit, or was he possibly wrong about something he said which you are using to attack him?
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02-13-2011, 04:43 AM,
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
As it's posted articles, the title should represent the content. Actually, that's kind of an unwritten rule for anything a person posts anywhere, no?
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

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02-14-2011, 12:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-02-2011, 06:40 AM by Negentropic.)
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
(02-13-2011, 01:42 AM)yeti Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 01:06 AM)itsaname Wrote: Well,, the French are well known for just rolling over and taking it, in some cases literally

They're also well known for removing their monarchy. Was this a good idea or bad?

Their workers are also known for standing up to their government, unlike American workers. Do you disagree with this?

Take a walk around Paris, then tell me the French don't have something you can learn.

(02-12-2011, 01:36 PM)Negentropic Wrote: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'

May I ask what the subject has to do with Alex Jones? What's the fascination with Jones about anyway? Seriously, you're putting up articles that have nothing to do with him, yet you mention him in the title. Why?

Why are you doing the work of a provocateur?

V for Bullshit? Jones is trying to get people to realize that they are not alone in resisting tyranny - in fact they are the vast majority. So let me ask you, is this a bad idea? Is Jones' overall plan bullshit, or was he possibly wrong about something he said which you are using to attack him?


The French didn't lie down and take it. The French didn't mind the Germans at all and partied and had 200,000 children with the Germans. That's the whole point of those two articles. AJ thinks the French were liberated by some tough anti-Hitler resistance. The two articles about research done by real historians that correct the post-war propaganda don't imply that the French are 'cowards' but rather their spin is two ways, one that the French are 'immoral' for liking them evil German National Socialist anti-Jew anti-communists, two, very smart for choosing the right side ( After all, the Americans and the British and everyone else died, while 95% of the military eligible French sat out the war) and having judged the German character and culture correctly. Which interpretation or mixture of interpretations of French character any particular reader derives from those articles would depend on how much real history as opposed to propaganda with regard to the 'resistance,' and how much real history of Germany and the Nazi regime as opposed to propaganda that reader has been exposed to. Real history means history based on original source documents only which any other evidence such as interviews with subjects alive at the time and documentary film only serve to provide corroboration for. For example, the film of Hitler going all around Paris standing in an open convertible Mercedes corroborates that he had very little to fear from French 'resistance' snipers. However, some post-war propaganda people might say that the film was staged while the French were 'brutally' repressed. So, the documents and photos proving that French police, the Gendarmes, who outnumbered the German police, remained on duty throughout the occupation corroborates further that Germans knew they had very little to fear from the French and lends full credibility to the authenticity of the Hitler open-Mercedes-ride video, etc.

The connection with Alex Jones is obvious to anyone who's been listening to AJ for the past month. I hadn't listened to AJ for about 9 months but started again recently because he always keeps more updated at least on all the non-gate-kept liberty-info anti-tyranny fronts than all the other lazy fucks out there. AJ has a new program going for spreading the infowar which is called V for Victory based on some supposed campaign carried out by the French Resistance against Hitler and the Nazis that 'succeeded,' which is a bunch of BS based on whatever propaganda history of the French 'Resistance' cooked up after the war AJ seems to have read. It also uses the "V for Vendetta" movie advertising and popularity to its own ends but AJ made a POINT of claiming that it had all this stuff to do with the French and Hitler. AJ or should I say Alex 'Arabs Own Hollywood' Jones needs to be set straight on his mistakes and shilling, whether intentional or not, every single time he does it. He's a gatekeeper but so is almost every other person in the 'truth' movment in one way or another. Being a gatekeeper can work two ways: you either bring the people to the gate and then keep the rest of the truth out forever or by bringing tons of people to the gate you guarantee that some of these people will find the rest of the truth on their own by jumping the fence themselves finding their own ways around it. By setting AJ straight on his bullcrap we make it more likely that more people will pole-vault that gate into that 20% forbidden territory that AJ is afraid of revealing for whatever reason. Whether it's all strategy on his part in order to be able to keep his huge audience, knowing that they will eventually figure out the rest for themselves, matters little. We still need to set AJ, Rense, Rivero, Michael Collins Piper, Jim Marrs, Texe Marrs or any of the rest of the truth movement leaders out there straight on a regular and non-relenting basis. Only in this way will the new consensus-of-truth millions of people reaching for the noosphere in cyberspace gradually arrive at on a day-to-day basis continue getting purer and gain strength.


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02-14-2011, 04:55 PM,
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
Wow, cheers for the amazing research and scholarship there. Yet another AJ obsession in the making. How tired is this crap. If there were people here praising the guy all the time I'd understand, but constantly thread like this appear in a place where people don't generally care, bar those posting the AJ threads in the first place that is.
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

https://duckduckgo.com/
02-15-2011, 07:15 AM,
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
(02-14-2011, 04:55 PM)Dunamis Wrote: Wow, cheers for the amazing research and scholarship there. Yet another AJ obsession in the making. How tired is this crap. If there were people here praising the guy all the time I'd understand, but constantly thread like this appear in a place where people don't generally care, bar those posting the AJ threads in the first place that is.

I agree. It is tired but as long as AJ remains as popular as he is, his daily outbursts of butt-gas need to be corrected. AJ knows as long as he stays soft on Israel and bashes the WWII Germans as the ultimate evil the NWO has got his back, so that's what he does. The more he realizes people are aware of what he does the more he's forced to do it less to keep his rep.

I came across this old thread from webanarchy.net the other day which contained a short but amusing treatise on shills and shilling starring nearly the entire cast of characters familiar to concen members:

http://webanarchy.net/v3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6346&start=10

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Ciggy wrote:
Nailz wrote:Im kind of think all this " shill " calling is ridiculous .
Everyone gets called to be a shill no madder what you do . This is crazy .
you are :
mason
Jesuit
CIA
Jew
communist
MI6
knight of Malta , Columbus ,etc. knight of grundle
temporal coadjutor
Illuminati
ON AND ON AND ON .....

Even ciggy gets called to be CIA




I almost never call anyone a shill. But Michael Moore is one, definitely.



Because ......?


1. He deliberately and knowingly turded up his own punch bowl with Farenheit 9/11, using only the most ridiculous, hair-brained, indefensible arguments against the Bush administration imaginable, and thus giving the pro-Iraq-war neocons a handy straw man to fight in the blogosphere and make all the war's opponents look absolutely ridiculous by association with Moore.

2. He supported fascist gun control policies in "Bowling for Columbine".

3. He didn't even WHISPER about Big Pharma in "Sicko".

I don't even need to see this "Capitalism" love story of his, to know that it'll be full of half-truths, innuendo, and arguments so weak even a brainless USMC jarhead can argue intelligently against it on his blogspot bloviations.

Kill that fucker with fire. Again and again. He bats for the other team.


Ciggy at anarchy.net

SHILL: willing agent of misinformation employed ephemerally as an asset by government intelligence agencies or secret societies or globalist NGOs or bloodline families or multinational corporations. Not a full-time agent thereof (too undisciplined and unreliable for any of the rigors of agent training, and wholly unqualified), but a citizen mercenary enough to sell out humanity for 40 pieces of silver, but without the common decency to hang himself for what he has done.

1. Alex Jones is an entrepreneur cashing in on conspiracy marketing. Not a shill.
2. Jeff Rense is a weirdo who can't see past his own nose, let alone connect any dots. Not a shill.
3. David Icke is a sad, pathetic little man who has been duped by an army of shills, is a charlatan, but not smart enough to really be a shill himself.
4. Michael Tsarion is an angry, ineffective, fraudulent, undisciplined outcaste from heretical theosophical societies. Barely above Leo Zagami in intellect and intent, but not a shill.
5. Alan Watt is David Icke without the reptilians, only greedier and more paranoid. A plagiarist and a psycho, but... not a shill.
6. Stewart Swerdlow is a CIA agent. Outranks a shill.
7. David Shayler is a victim. Tried to be a whistle blower but they nuked his fucking brain. Not a shill.
8. William Cooper was a sincere researcher who did his best to filter through all the bullshit that was being fed to him, although he didn't always succeed. Not a shill.
9. Stanley Monteith is a shill putting out misinformation for the freakmasons.
10. Jim Marrs is an agent, outranks a shill.
11. Greg Szymanski runs with the Jim Tucker and Jon Ronson crowd, all strangely deluded by shills, but not smart enough to be shills themselves. They need to borrow a working brain from someone one of these days. Maybe then they can be marketable as shills.
12. Tom Valentine was a shill. One of the smartest, most clever ones in the business.
13. Nick Begich. Son of the assassinated Congressman. Not a willing shill, but sometimes coerced into dropping a stink bomb or two, since he likes staying alive and doesn't call their bluff like his dad did.
14. Bo Gritz. Former shill, now a nobody.
15. Deek Jackson. Not a shill, not an agent, not a charlatan, not an opportunist, and not an idiot. One of the rarest of breeds in this world.
16. Ted Gunderson. Used to be an agent. Felt bad about it. Then started truth-telling to clear his conscience. He's headed for David Shayler's fate so he might as well start shopping for dresses now.
17. Mark Koernke. Was given an offer he couldn't refuse. But he refused it anyway. Served a prison sentence when he called their bluff. Not a shill. Not particularly bright, but not as stupid as some out there.
18. Jordan Maxwell. Shillus Maximus. Nuff said there.
19. Texe Marrs. Deluded by Christardian misinformation. Non-shill, but a victim.

I could go on, but I'm running out of lulz.


Mark Phillips: was an agent; still an agent. Assigned to damage-control most of the stuff Cathy says, to implant false data into it and ruin her credibility. The more famous the alleged abuser in her life, the more likely it was Mark's doing to "Arizona Wilder" her story. If Cathy gets too credible in spite of Mark's efforts, the PTB will probably kill them both using the "lone psycho" cutout gimmick.

Tsarion I was borderline, thinking about calling him a shill. But he's too low even for shill status. He's merely dirt.

Jones, I don't know for sure on that one. The gonzo craziness of getting into fistfights and then losing, and claiming shortly after to police that he has FBI connections, that's just too perfectly done for an artificial personality. The elite aren't really that smart, and they prefer obvious whoppers like "reptilians" or "the Jesuits are the only bad group out there" or "the aliens will save us on 2012". Or maybe Tavistock outsourced the handling of Jonesy to an expert worthy of his craft.


christopher hitchens on farenheit 9/11:

To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of 'dissenting' bravery.

"One isn't born one's self. One is born with a mass of expectations, a mass of other people's ideas, and you have to work through it all." - V.S.Naipaul

03-03-2011, 10:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 04-02-2011, 06:53 AM by Negentropic.)
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
Alex Jones & Alan Watt discuss the inner workings of the unspoken and unwritten rules the 'illuminati priest class LOL' use in the making and unmaking of a shill:

(Alex Jones Show - 01/06/2011 - Hour 3, around the 45 minute mark)


Alex: Why would they let Ventura's show come out and then decide to start pulling episodes and banning the re-airing of certain episodes? Well, I know the inside scoop. They allowed it thinking that it would just be a conditioning mechanism but for some reason they decided it was having too big of a trigger and they banned the Police State episode. What do you think is going on behind that?

Alan Watt: You're probably quite right. It probably was meant to be a predictive programming, overawing show 'wow, gee, what can you do about it, it's going to come' but the more folk talk about it you see and find ways to propagate the information to each other and find ways around it to combat it or to get a big backlash about it, then they find that it's had the opposite effect than what they intended.

Alex Jones: Well that shows an enemy miscalculation. And again, not that Ventura's bad or I was bad, I mean we really put real shows on air. It was funny though the network would come in to say the episode on Bio-Weapons Labs, Bio-Shield, it was a really serious episode but the network execs above even True-TV said put a montod monster in there, put a dead animal that washed up to try to discredit it. But they were unable to get it all done so now they're just like 'No, Stop! No! Don't air it! No!'


Alan Watt: And I've had the same offers too to go on to some really big shows, I turned them all down because they wanted me to bring in the aliens and this and that and the other. What that does is you then act for counter-intelligence. Counter-Intelligence takes the factual data, they mix it with the farcical and then people parrot that and sound like lunatics.

Alex Jones: Yeah same here. I've turned down just in the last year multiple, big national shows I would host, ready to go. But they said, listen, the execs want you to do aliens mixed with it. And I'm like, let me guess Chewbacoppers as well? And I'm like, no. And people can't believe when you say no to them !

Alan Watt: I know and regardless of the cash they offer I've turned them all down because every single biggie out there has asked me to do the same thing.

Alex Jones: Plus, once you've done that, they have weird rules, unwritten rules. Once you've taken one of their deals even though it's unwritten or unspoken, then if I did that to use it to get even bigger, to then flip and expose them after, then they would kill me. But because I've always stayed pure, it's like a weird unwritten rule, I know you've studied that, what is, what's behind that?

Alan Watt: Well, it's probably compromise as well, their own set of legalities and rules. It's like a brotherhood. You come into their confidence and you're agreeing to something you suspect. And they'll make sure to give you enough information that you suspect they want to use you for something. That's a real legal deal in their brotherhood terminology and their way of thinking and they don't let it go, they will never let you go if you've acquiesced to go along with something like that.
04-30-2012, 01:47 PM,
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RE: V for Bullshit, Alex Jones & the Practically Non-Existent French 'Resistance'
Quote: French children of Wehrmacht soldiers seek German nationality


http://luishipolito.blogspot.com/2010/03/french-children-of-wehrmacht-soldiers.html



Their mothers were French, their fathers were German soldiers in National Socialist-occupied France. Some 200,000 children endured scorn and often hid their father’s identity. Now some have begun applying for German citizenship


More than 200,000 children fathered by German soldiers were raised by their French mothers after the German occupation of France during World War II, according to Paris historian Fabrice Vergili. The author of the book “Naître ennemi” (Born an Enemy) also estimates that 20,000 French women were hounded through streets and brutally given short haircuts by their French compatriots, who accused them of “horizontal collaboration” with the National Socialists.

Many of these "war children" grew up not knowing their full identities and ashamed of their German roots, until recently. Since 2009 dozens have sought and obtained German nationality without having to relinquish their French citizenship, as is generally required of resident foreigners under German law.

Mijo Panier, fathered by a Wehrmacht soldier and born in 1943, recently applied for German citizenship. “I am proud to be German and French, proud of my dual nationality. I will use one and then the other,” she said.

The liaison that started with a sneeze powder prank

Not until she turned 16 did Panier learn that her father had been German. Her French step-father, who accepted her as his own child, forbade her to talk about her origins. Her biological parents met in a Paris cafe during the four-year occupation.

"My mother went into a cafe where young French and Germans met one another, but as groups kept apart," Panier said. "My mother and her friend scattered sneeze powder under the chairs of the German soldiers.” Her father was amused and moved over to sit with the girls at their table. That was the start of a forbidden liaison.

After a search that lasted for decades, she found her father, Willi Welsch, five years ago with the assistance of a Berlin-based organization. Welsch and his daughter Mijo exchanged letters before finally meeting near Frankfurt.
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Tender encounter near Frankfurt

Welsch was seriously ill and had been in hospital. “To me he was unbelievably nice. He had blue eyes and despite his illness he drew me into the train. I sat down next to him and there we remained silent for a long time. Then we exchanged a few words in English, German and French”.

With tears in her eyes, Panier adds, "It was as though I had found my second half".
Welsch died a few months later, but since then Panier has fostered intense contacts with her recently-discovered family in Germany. There is a photo of her paternal sister in her French living room.

Months ago she sent a letter to the German embassy – in German. “I was a child of shame. In the end, however, I am a child of love,” she wrote. Although Panier now speaks openly about her father's origins her mother still does not want to talk about it.

Shrugging off shame prompts search for family roots

The urge to free themselves from shame motivates many of France's "war children" to apply officially for their German nationality.

The surge began after a broadcast on French television in 2003. Many former war children then contacted the Paris historian Virgili and went on to set up groups such as the National Friendship Association for War Children to help each other to trace their roots. Their wartime experiences soon became a talking point in France.

Hewige Roberval sent her application to the German embassy shortly before her marriage. "Not long before my wedding I told my fiance about my father. I was really scared that he might no longer want to marry me. Fortunately, he only laughed about it."
Panier says that if her application for German citzenship is granted, she plans to officially adopt her deceased father's family name. It is already on her letter box.



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Recently a exhibition of wartime made photos by André Zucca caused some trouble in France.

People felt these photos showed a wartime Paris that was much too jolly.


No shit ! That's because it was jolly !



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Quote:Another thing they don't mention is that the "French" Resistance was overwhelmingly a Zionist and Communist/Socialist Resistance composed mostly of eastern european jews.

In the years before WWII (between 1919 and 1930) France received around 1,500,000 immigrants, many of them jews from Eastern Europe who received a monthly salary and constituted up to 80% of the Resistance force.

http://jewishcurrents.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/jcarchive082.pdf

The Resistance was a marginal movement with a clear ethnic (jews) and political (communist) composition.

French Campaign 1940, never in History had so many soldiers refused to resist:

- July 19 the Germans take 200,000 French POW's
- July 22, 200, 000 more
- July 23, 500,000

In total the Germans captured 2 million french soldiers, between 1.7 and 1.8 million returned to their homes during the War.

The French 'Resistance' in numbers (source ministère des Anciens Combattants et Victimes de Guerre):

- number of resistants killed or deported: 77,615
- number of missing resistants: 2,782
- cartes combattand given by the government after the War: 260,000 (means the number of resistants who survived, most of them joined the movement in the final phase of the war)
- France population in 1939: 41,600,000

Percentage of resistants among the french population: 0.82% (less than 1%).

The german occupation executed or deported 77,000 resistants in 4 years, giving an average of 19,000 per year.

Check this website for more info (in french):
http://www.contreculture.org/AT%20R%E9sistance.%20Chiffres.html


http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/94ss_headquarters_in_paris.htm



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