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Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
02-06-2011, 04:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2011, 04:46 PM by Dunamis.)
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Quote:Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
By Tim Ross, Matthew Moore and Steven Swinford 9:23PM GMT 28 Jan 2011



The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.

The secret document in full

He has already been arrested by Egyptian security in connection with the demonstrations and his identity is being protected by The Daily Telegraph.

The crisis in Egypt follows the toppling of Tunisian president Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali, who fled the country after widespread protests forced him from office.
The disclosures, contained in previously secret US diplomatic dispatches released by the WikiLeaks website, show American officials pressed the Egyptian government to release other dissidents who had been detained by the police.

Mr Mubarak, facing the biggest challenge to his authority in his 31 years in power, ordered the army on to the streets of Cairo yesterday as rioting erupted across Egypt.
Tens of thousands of anti-government protesters took to the streets in open defiance of a curfew. An explosion rocked the centre of Cairo as thousands defied orders to return to their homes. As the violence escalated, flames could be seen near the headquarters of the governing National Democratic Party.

Police fired rubber bullets and used tear gas and water cannon in an attempt to disperse the crowds.

At least five people were killed in Cairo alone yesterday and 870 injured, several with bullet wounds. Mohamed ElBaradei, the pro-reform leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner, was placed under house arrest after returning to Egypt to join the dissidents. Riots also took place in Suez, Alexandria and other major cities across the country.

William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, urged the Egyptian government to heed the “legitimate demands of protesters”. Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said she was “deeply concerned about the use of force” to quell the protests.

In an interview for the American news channel CNN, to be broadcast tomorrow, David Cameron said: “I think what we need is reform in Egypt. I mean, we support reform and progress in the greater strengthening of the democracy and civil rights and the rule of law.”
The US government has previously been a supporter of Mr Mubarak’s regime. But the leaked documents show the extent to which America was offering support to pro-democracy activists in Egypt while publicly praising Mr Mubarak as an important ally in the Middle East.

In a secret diplomatic dispatch, sent on December 30 2008, Margaret Scobey, the US Ambassador to Cairo, recorded that opposition groups had allegedly drawn up secret plans for “regime change” to take place before elections, scheduled for September this year.

The memo, which Ambassador Scobey sent to the US Secretary of State in Washington DC, was marked “confidential” and headed: “April 6 activist on his US visit and regime change in Egypt.”

It said the activist claimed “several opposition forces” had “agreed to support an unwritten plan for a transition to a parliamentary democracy, involving a weakened presidency and an empowered prime minister and parliament, before the scheduled 2011 presidential elections”. The embassy’s source said the plan was “so sensitive it cannot be written down”.

Ambassador Scobey questioned whether such an “unrealistic” plot could work, or ever even existed. However, the documents showed that the activist had been approached by US diplomats and received extensive support for his pro-democracy campaign from officials in Washington. The embassy helped the campaigner attend a “summit” for youth activists in New York, which was organised by the US State Department.

Cairo embassy officials warned Washington that the activist’s identity must be kept secret because he could face “retribution” when he returned to Egypt. He had already allegedly been tortured for three days by Egyptian state security after he was arrested for taking part in a protest some years earlier.

The protests in Egypt are being driven by the April 6 youth movement, a group on Facebook that has attracted mainly young and educated members opposed to Mr Mubarak. The group has about 70,000 members and uses social networking sites to orchestrate protests and report on their activities.

The documents released by WikiLeaks reveal US Embassy officials were in regular contact with the activist throughout 2008 and 2009, considering him one of their most reliable sources for information about human rights abuses.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html
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02-06-2011, 05:13 PM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
i have some suspicions here but its interesting to note that this is the telegraph writing this.

Regime change by another name? Is this the agenda or a front for the agenda?
If he was going out anyway was it better to be friends with the new crew?

Im thinking as probably many Egyptians are at present. Is it the Americans repairing their mess or creating a new one? both?
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02-06-2011, 06:02 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2011, 06:04 PM by Infinite.)
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
Neoconservatives are against the protesters and supporting Mubarak: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-were-u-s-socialists-rallying-in-support-of-egypt-this-weekend/

For those who are against U.S. imperialism I don't understand the logic of being against the protesters. Even if there are elements of the establishment co-opting the movement, isn't anything better than Mubarak? Are the people of Egypt supposed to embrace having a dictator?
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02-06-2011, 08:40 PM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
Don't get me wrong, I am all for the protesters, and I think the US is only supporting it, rather than as the article tries to imply, controlling it. It's just what happens after, as we all know too well the the US has a tenancy to get involved in revolutions to control not the revolution as such, just merely the outcome.

This should be the sort of thing that is being communicated to the Egyptian people as much as possible (for any of you who have contacts there), that they should be weary of the US trying to become some sort of backer of any outcome. The people must be aware that all who support the protests and throwing out Mubarak aren't necessarily for the people as a rule.
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

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02-07-2011, 09:09 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-07-2011, 09:12 AM by Infinite.)
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
They'll be lucky if they even get Mubarak out at this stage of the game, let alone worrying about that though from a realistic perspective. No matter who they get as a replacement, if they at least have a democracy where they can vote leaders in and out it's a step up from a dictatorship. & the U.S. government is not really supporting them that much in my view, at least not outwardly. They're still saying that they should keep Mubarak and wait for him to step down. And the cans of tear gas that have been thrown at the crowds have said made in the U.S. on them. I think it's telling that the neoconservative branch of the establishment in the U.S. like Dick Cheney have voiced their support for Mubarak. That's the group most tightly aligned with AIPAC and the most zealous of the Zionists including Netanyahu.
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02-07-2011, 11:23 AM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
well my reckoning is that the US Govt was/is backing both sides but seeing the world is looking mroe favourably at the protesters side they would be backing that more.
duplicity is the stock and trade of international relations and diplomacy
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02-07-2011, 07:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-07-2011, 07:28 PM by rsol.)
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
i would agree with pax here. US installed a dictator not to keep peace in the middle east but to make sure they had their guy in there. the same can be said for coups/revolutions they are not involved in. back the winner and hope for his sake he plays ball.

There is some worry from "Muslim extremists" as per usual. but seeing as alot of them seem to be praying with the Christians that may be a bit of a hard sell.
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02-07-2011, 08:34 PM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
(02-07-2011, 07:26 PM)rsol Wrote: There is some worry from "Muslim extremists" as per usual. but seeing as alot of them seem to be praying with the Christians that may be a bit of a hard sell.

Yea, gladly Egypt has been much more culturally advanced than most other Mid-East nations for quite some time in this respect. Though I am sure some people who fled in the late 60's may disagree, and of course are now becoming the new culprits for all of this unrest, as expected.
"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

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02-08-2011, 06:14 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-08-2011, 06:17 PM by rsol.)
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
well this guy has been in there a long while under "emergency powers" (what is this revenge of the sith?) thats one long emergency.

Im sorry but if i can book a holiday, you are not in a state of emergency. The guy is obviously power hungry he seems to have many friends in egypt too. many dont want him out. 1mill protestors is not a majority.

I dont even know if this action will work. its slowing, hes still there..these protestors need to get 2 mill ppl in there.
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02-09-2011, 02:13 AM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
(02-08-2011, 06:14 PM)rsol Wrote: well this guy has been in there a long while under "emergency powers" (what is this revenge of the sith?) thats one long emergency.

Im sorry but if i can book a holiday, you are not in a state of emergency. The guy is obviously power hungry he seems to have many friends in egypt too. many dont want him out. 1mill protestors is not a majority.

I dont even know if this action will work. its slowing, hes still there..these protestors need to get 2 mill ppl in there.

It seems that really is the way things are going. Not enough people are joining in. So far it's mainly been people from in and around Cairo. But can we really expect more? Do enough people have transportation to Cairo from elsewhere, in such a vast country? Would they be allowed that far even if they did try?

Here's today's Independent front cover, and it's being noticed that things are fast easing off:
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"He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked." -- 1 John 2:6
"Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly... This is the interrelated structure of reality." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." -- Proverbs 18:13
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." -- Leo Tolstoy
"To love is to be vulnerable" -- C.S Lewis

The Kingdom of God is within you! -- Luke 17:20-21

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02-11-2011, 04:42 AM,
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RE: Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
It was so much directed and instigated as much as it has been channelled and coordinated to attempt to harness the uprising to meet the inevitable damage from the snowballing organized citizen overthrow of the corrupted power structure.

Pointing to bankers from the US serves to further vilify the US. It also makes the Egyptians question the course of their civil disobedience to fracture disorganize and have them looking for the leadership that was programmed well before the event.

Since public communication is severely handicapped it allows the multiple pre-organized uprisings by various groups to dictate the execution and timing. When the public is confused they tend to flock to the herd and the pre-ordained leadership to be part of something. By strategically placing leaders and groups at the tip of the spear it allows the masses to be manipulated into controlled actions and inactions. They can be rallied or dissolved.

During the initial uprising the landscape of the information medium was stripped from common public and in the void the perception was moulded by controlled media and information relays such as newspapers, flyers and criers that were installed well in advance. Meanwhile Egyptians are adapting to the transition a few steps behind and mired in confusion an misdirection while the public is being railroaded to snap solutions that either mitigate, contain or generally railroad in the solutions and/or the chaos that were planned from the get-go.

Exhibit B

Quote:Egyptian Revolution Protest Manual (How to Protest Intelligently)
January 31, 2011 in Egypt

This document is an Arabic manual for Egyptian protesters circulated via email and in hard copy prior to the protests on Friday January 28, 2010. For background on the document and English translations of selected portions, see The Atlantic’s article Egyptian Activists’ Action Plan: Translated**.

   
   
   
http://info.publicintelligence.net/EgyptianRevolutionManual.pdf (Original Arabic Manual - 26 Pages)
http://publicintelligence.net/egyptian-revolution-protest-manual-how-to-protest-intelligently/
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/ (Partial Translation)
** Only 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, 13, 22, and 26 were translated in the article. Why not the whole 26 page document? Can't find it posted anywhere.

Let's rectify that - here's a machine translated copy using Google Translator done up manually. Tried using IBM Transbrowser to compare but it crashed on several attempts. I've submitted it to http://news.meedan.net/ for human translation.

Page 1
Bhaddaip
Information and tactics
Important
Please disseminated through e-mail and printing and photography only.
Facebook and Twitter observers. beware of the occurrence of such Information in the hands of police or state security.

Page 2
The demands of the people of Egypt
-1 toppled the government of Mubarak and his ministers.
-2 repeal of the Tuareg.
-3 freedom.
-4 justice.
-5 to configure a new government, non-military
Be the heart of the Egyptian people.
-6 sound management of all resources in Egypt.

Page 3
Tactical goals
Civil disobedience
-1 to seize government buildings is important.
-2 attempting to incorporate members of the police and the army to
Among the people.
-3 protect our brothers and sisters of the rebels.

Page 4
Implementation steps
-1 Gatherings with friends and neighbors in the streets away from residential security forces.
-2 Positive chanting the name of Egypt and the people's freedom slogans.
-3 Encourage residents to join the buildings are positive
-4 out in large groups to the streets to gather the largest crowd possible.
-5 walk around important government buildings with cheering Positive to capture it.

Page 5
Where do you go specifically
-1 Downtown: based radio and television
Must inform the building from all sides, then slip
To the inside to be control of the direct broadcast
And the Declaration of the Commissioner of the people control the people of the country
On Egyptian television and its liberation from dictatorship
Authoritarian. ) Please measure and order (

Page 6
Where do you go specifically - supplement
-2 Heliopolis: Presidential Palace
Should blockade the entire region, it's best to walk from the direction of
Al-Ahram Street, El Korba and Caliph al-Mamun and Manshiet
Bakri. Starting from small residential streets until
Access to the main artery.

Page 7
Where do you go specifically - supplement
-3 Helwan: a police station project
The sons of the country in Helwan not Higelbo

Page 8
Where do you go specifically - supplement
-4 Maadi: Maadi police station - the area of Port Said
Please do not imprisoned yourselves in the field, it will
Facilitate the process Ihtwaikm. Better inform the region
Where there is a section as follows: (map)

Page 9
Where do you go specifically - supplement
-5 rest of the provinces: county seat
If a seizure of the headquarters of the province, will not become
Maintain a corrupt government, but to become a
To the people of Egypt for free! Liberated Mhafezatkm Ichab Egypt
Brave!
-6 peaceful blockade of all organizations collaborating with the government
Corrupt to extinguish the pulse of the people, such as:
Vodafone shops and official T.E. Data) without
Sabotage or destroy! Peaceful! (

Page 10
Clothing & Tools

Necessary settled shirt or sweater) Abu Zaabot (, it helps
The removal of gas tear gas on Your face.

Suit cover, can be used As a shield against the blows of the Central Security Stick or rubber bullets.

Gloves conch, which helps to protect your hands from
Temperature of tear gas

Glasses and protective clothing) can Purchased from any store

Paints and paints

(Scarf to protect your mouth And lungs of gas

Tear Warda, who are working to
We must and we will start in Ptgmehr Very peaceful.

Paint spraying, if Ahan Event beaten by Authorities, publication of Aldjelko On the glass and armor Alkhoz

To block their vision and Shell Movement

Comfortable shoes for jogging And rapid movement

Page 11
Other tools
-1 Several first aid.
-2 Tablets pain different.
-3 Drinking water.
-4 Vinegar. And put on the scarf may help to reduce the The effects of tear gas.
5 for the lemon. The Edeith during gas secretion, it is also Helps to reduce the effects.
-6 Coca-Cola. Advice of some rebel brothers In Tunisia is washing the face Coca Cola At the launch of tear gas, Saying that it removes the effect immediately.
-7 Some snacks to continue to sit.
-8 Water with soap. For use on Police Armored vehicles that tried to approach from the crowd.
-9 Plastic bags. You can fill with fluid bags Soap and thrown on the armor of the Pulleys After.

Page 12
How to use
Tools
-1 shield and Aldjelko
Proved your location Yambar. Alasaip repel shield
As you spray in the face.

Page 13
How to use the tools - supplement
-2 other uses of Doku:
Glass on the armored vehicle and a surveillance camera top.
-3 You can also plant a wet towel inside the Shakman
Iagafha the vehicle.
-4 can also throw plastic bags full of water
Soap on the tires of the armored upset the balance
Going.

Page 14
Tactic of collective
-1 after Friday prayers go out to the streets in
The ranks of the carrying roses and flowers.
Without ejaculation and without hairs. Walk in the ranks
Organization) similar to prayer (and even complete access
To our goals) the most important government building in your area (

Page 15
Tactic of collective
-1 after Friday prayers go out to the streets in
The ranks of the carrying roses and flowers.
Without ejaculation and without hairs. Walk in the ranks
Organization) similar to prayer (and even complete access
To our goals) the most important government building in your area (

Page 16
Tactic collective - supplement
-5 Hack is coordinated among the security push. Can
This 3 sets of pre-planning with the crowd
Then a fourth and final batch of the utmost force, Vtaatvajo
By the security forces.
-6 When you start the chants do not stop never.
Commitment to a shout, and preferably one or two Baketer
) Cheers simple (so that everyone clearly heard
And are making easily.
-7 Whenever approached the crowd from the ranks of the Central Security,
The less they can to launch tear gas
Tear. ) And increased our influence on them (
8 in the case of throwing tear gas bombs,
Fballah Alikk proved and keep quiet, more than Valhla
Istnchaqk of smoke.

Page 17
Tactic collective - supplement
-9 if I heard the bombing, not fleeing. Resist the
Grade but simply Raise shield) cover Hilla (
Over your head and will be safe.
And always be aware that the impact
Very temporary.
-10 I wish our heroes end of the plate holding the bomb
The throwing of the Central Security Tignes) preferred
Wear Jawanti (.

Page 18
Tactic collective - supplement
-11 The most important thing to protect each other. Clears the whole mind
From one side.
-12 usually leaves the central security gaps to give a small
Some individuals of the few traffic. We can exploit
This is to sneak behind their ranks, and Hsaarham
And to seize their weapons and shields.

Page 19
Tactic collective - supplement
-13 Inqaz colleagues is more important than beating guidance to security
Central.
-14 For not cracking or to sabotage
15 - Club to spectators to join the ranks
Freedom.
-16 Distribution of tasks between the different ranks of the battalion
Different.
-17 I know that the buildings are like towers monitoring
And control in favor of the SPLM.
-18 Do not leave any member of the police to infiltrate
People in the crowd. Even though Indmo
Of the movement, you must keep them at the rows of Foreign Affairs.
-19 Do not be negative to no avail.

Page 20
Tactic collective - supplement
20 - sit only after reaching the goal of the greatest,
Stick out of the reach of central security, can
Citizens to sit down, but would prefer not to be
Randomly.

Page 21
Participation of others
Directly
You can also participate in the popular movement methods
Indirect following:
-1 raise the password for Wi-Fi to homes and offices.
-2 Egyptian flag on the development of shops, offices
Aleonat and cars and to raise morale.
-3 with the people chanting against Mubarak's rule of all
Aleonat and windows!

Page 22
Some forms of posters
People and Police
Together against injustice!
Long live Egypt!

Page 23
Cowardly Mubarak
???

Page 24
image

Page 25
image

Page 26
How to publish and distribute
This information
-1 please do not use the) twitter (or
facebook ((or websites, Vklh Monitor
By Aaldakhalip.
-2 Share by email or the printing and imaging,
Especially if you are the owner or manager of an office or shop.
-3 Do not betray the people of your country and be sure that no the occurrence of such
Information in the hands of any person who works or military
Police.
God was, God can.
Pays homage to Egypt.


Exhibit C

Quote:WikiLeaks: US supported Egypt pro-democracy activists (Jerusalem Post):

A 2008 diplomatic cable from the US Embassy in Cairo leaked by WikiLeaks on Friday shows another side to the United States’ relationship with Egypt in recent years. The cable outlines how the State Department helped an Egyptian pro-democracy activist attend a “Youth Movements Summit” in New York and how the unnamed activist presented an “unwritten plan for democratic transition in 2011.”

While the United States has received criticism for its support of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak’s regime in the face of anti-government protests, the newly released cable indicates that the US was also supporting his detractors. It notes State Department efforts to apply pressure on Egypt in order to have dissidents released from custody.

The cable also described meetings that the Egyptian activist held with US members of congress. Among those he met with in 2008 were Representative Edward Royce and current chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. The pro-democracy activist told embassy officials that one of the congressmen even invited him to speak at a congressional hearing scheduled for early 2009 regarding “religious and political freedom in Egypt.”

Perhaps most relevant to current events in Egypt was an aspect of the plan for “a transition to a parliamentary democracy” before the scheduled 2011 [Egyptian] presidential elections.” He claims that a range of opposition groups, “including the Wafd, Nasserite, Karama and Tagammu parties, and the Muslim Brotherhood, Kifaya, and Revolutionary Socialist movements” all supported the unwritten plan. Furthermore, he says that the opposition groups were interested in “receiving support from the army and the police for a transitional government.”

The US attitudes expressed in the diplomatic document are skeptical and cautious; plans are described as uncorroborated and “highly unrealistic.” The diplomat who authored the report noted that the activist’s goals are at odds with mainstream “opposition politicians and activists.”

ACTIVIST ON HIS U.S. VISIT AND REGIME 12-30-2008 (WikiLeaks):

1. © Summary and comment: On December 23, April 6 activist
XXXXXXXXXXXX expressed satisfaction with his participation in
the December 3-5 "Alliance of Youth Movements Summit," and
with his subsequent meetings with USG officials, on Capitol
Hill, and with think tanks. He described how State Security
(SSIS) detained him at the Cairo airport upon his return and
confiscated his notes for his summit presentation calling for
democratic change in Egypt, and his schedule for his
Congressional meetings. XXXXXXXXXXXX contended that the GOE
will never undertake significant reform, and therefore, Egyptians
need to replace the current regime with a parliamentary
democracy. He alleged that several opposition parties and
movements have accepted an unwritten plan for democratic
transition by 2011; we are doubtful of this claim. XXXXXXXXXXXX
said that although SSIS recently released two April 6
activists, it also arrested three additional group members.
We have pressed the MFA for the release of these April 6
activists. April 6's stated goal of replacing the current
regime with a parliamentary democracy prior to the 2011
presidential elections is highly unrealistic, and is not
supported by the mainstream opposition. End summary and
comment.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=205706

.. interests in the US and elsewhere no doubt but Wikileaks tends to spin things as anti-American as possible.


What can we learn from this?

Think for yourself. Don't be a follower and have others represent or negotiate your future on your behalf - stand up and be counted.

Ear to the ground. Don't rely on spoon fed news.

Consider all the outcomes to every action you take on or don't take. No regrets. At the same time thought without action amounts to nothing at all.

If you are in a group. Ask questions and try to offer up alternative or even ideas that go against what a propped up before you to vet for infiltrators, provocateurs, shills, embeds and installed leadership structure.

Persist. Just because the media says it is over doesn't mean it is. It never is there will always be those who will attempt to use and abuse people.

Have a plan to switch to a backup information communication and distribution method/network/medium if this happens on your front lines. Also consider alternative methods of trade, commerce, production, security, travel and sustenance since the so called 'elite' has their finger on the trigger/killswitch and there will be a period of transition. How that is enacted is up to each of us. There is no collective template to follow, it should be adaptive. Cultures, peoples, families, communities and individuals are infinitely diverse; and thus, so are the approaches to live our lives and structure (or organically evolving) societies.

No compromise - we do not negotiate with terrorists. They act like they own all the chips on the table, that it is their game, their rules.
There are no others, there is only us.
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