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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
05-03-2009, 12:57 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2009, 01:07 AM by JazzRoc.)
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:I'm seeing an emergent paradox here in terms of JR's proclaimed belief in AGM.
Too true, blue!
Plimer 1 Plimer 2 Plimer 3 Plimer 4 Plimer 5
My appropriate blog page might interest you...

Despite Han's protestations it seems that we can possibly discern four types of modification scenarios:

a) local b ) regional c) continental d) global.

I have never heard of anything greater than regional been carried out, one in England, one in Vietnam, one in Russia, and one in China. Generally the bad effects overpowered the good effects, as I recall.

As I have said previously, anthopogenic warming isn't exactly under anyone's control, and that may or may NOT be REAL - but it's the only GLOBAL phenomenon.
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05-03-2009, 01:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2009, 01:36 AM by ---.)
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:The modern environmental movement arose out of the wreckage of the New Left. They call themselves Green because they’re too yellow to admit they’re really Reds. Why do you think Lenin’s birthday was chosen to be the date of Earth Day? The only underlying theme that makes sense of all Greenie policies is hatred of people. Hatred of other people has been a Greenie theme from way back. In a report titled “The First Global Revolution” (1991, p. 104) published by the “Club of Rome”, a Greenie panic outfit, we find the following statement: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”

Um, is this a light bulb moment then? Or am I reading what I saw in the last 2 minutes on that blog page wrong? And if it has been a light bulb moment, has it in any way been facilitated by concen? I intend to read the page in full tomorrow..looks very interesting.
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05-03-2009, 10:27 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2009, 10:44 AM by JazzRoc.)
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:Um, is this a light bulb moment then? Or am I reading what I saw in the last 2 minutes on that blog page wrong? And if it has been a light bulb moment, has it in any way been facilitated by concen? I intend to read the page in full tomorrow..looks very interesting.
It's been a flickering light bulb - and it still is.

Those are other people's comments - not mine - but I find that both sides have their points. I cannot personally leave the fence yet, and it's creasing my arse.

Those really ARE fascinating comments...

As a matter of interest, I've been green since the sixties, and have worked in the Green Party, and NEVER met a single individual who I would characterize as "hating people". Nor were they out of the "new left". They were wishy-washy, not very technical or scientific, a sort of weak coalition of left, right, and centre. They were FAR more concerned with "socially grooming" each other with "spiritual greenness" than confronting the big, bad, and dangerous-to-know outside world.

Ineffectual...

What always disgusts me is when evidence (we're talking REAL evidence here - NOT CT "eyewitness", falsified or anecdotal garbage) gets ignored.

Plimer has a solid point.
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05-03-2009, 11:03 AM,
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:
Quote:The modern environmental movement arose out of the wreckage of the New Left. They call themselves Green because they’re too yellow to admit they’re really Reds. Why do you think Lenin’s birthday was chosen to be the date of Earth Day? The only underlying theme that makes sense of all Greenie policies is hatred of people. Hatred of other people has been a Greenie theme from way back. In a report titled “The First Global Revolution” (1991, p. 104) published by the “Club of Rome”, a Greenie panic outfit, we find the following statement: “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”

Um, is this a light bulb moment then?


ROFL!
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05-03-2009, 12:24 PM,
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:ROFL!
I can see it...
[Image: Cozy_laughing.jpg]
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05-03-2009, 12:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2009, 12:28 PM by kevlar.)
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
where is that excellent chemtrails thread we had where nik asked the guy who wrote the debunker article to come and join us and he didn't know what to say in the end... or is that jazzroc. i don't think it is.

anyway we are fully aware of the difference between chemtrails and contrails, the accusations we are making is that of chemtrails. even though contrails are harmful in their own way. the reality of chemtrails has been documented on many cases around the world.
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05-03-2009, 01:38 PM,
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The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Wondering that myself
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05-03-2009, 02:36 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2009, 02:36 PM by JazzRoc.)
#38
The Ministry of Defence replies to me on the subject of Chemtrails...
Quote:the reality of chemtrails has been documented on many cases around the world.
Name one.

Just one.

One that is REAL.

Not PSEUDOSCIENCE.

Not a PROPOSAL.

Not a PATENT.

Not a blurry ground-level vid of a passenger aircraft seven miles up.

Not a made-up apocryphal tale with no follow-up.

Not a flagrant PHOTOSHOP in the middle of LIES.

Just NAME ONE.
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