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concerning comments
11-26-2010, 10:47 AM,
#31
RE: concerning comments
(11-26-2010, 10:35 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: your shoes were cast from footprints I made decades ago.

LOL

Is that the best you can come up with?

LOL

You must be in your 70s. Congrats old man! Instead of whining like a school girl, you might want to act your age then...
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11-26-2010, 10:48 AM,
#32
RE: concerning comments
So, we upload a torrent. Then go over to the forum and create a thread then add the link to the thread to the torrent description rather than just use the convenience of adding comments under the torrent. Well, It sounds like a pain in the ass and less people will comment as it requires more navigation. But if that is what you want to do, then do it.

Knower of the unknown.
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11-26-2010, 10:50 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2010, 10:54 AM by yeti.)
#33
RE: concerning comments
(11-26-2010, 10:35 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: Silencing debate and opinions is something the government would do. That is unacceptable imo.

Straw man. I explained numerous times already that I silenced nothing, you stupid fuck.

Still want to keep this up? Lie some more - go ahead. I dare you. Try me, troll.

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11-26-2010, 10:54 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2010, 06:11 PM by EvilMaster.)
#34
RE: concerning comments
You are a very rude person yeti. These little rude condescending remarks tell me that you are very young, uneducated and unintelligent. I have been a moderator on a main stream forum with over a hundred thousand users for almost a decade, so I guess I am just used to a little more professionalism from admin staff. I guess I was expecting too much here. I wasn't expecting this place to be run by children.

So carry on boys. If you think you know it all and don't want advice, just continue to talk shit to people and threaten to ban them. They'll just go away. You guys obviously know what you are doing. If you want to ruin your own site, who am I to try and help you. Here is one more piece of advice that you can have for free...It's Down the road, not across the street.

Knower of the unknown.
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11-26-2010, 10:59 AM,
#35
RE: concerning comments
(11-26-2010, 10:48 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: So, we upload a torrent. Then go over to the forum and create a thread then add the link to the thread to the torrent description rather than just use the convenience of adding comments under the torrent.

OK, if you want to do it that way, whatever floats your boat, old man.

The rest of us will just upload the torrent.

(11-26-2010, 10:48 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: Well, It sounds like a pain in the ass

What a coincidence, so are you!

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11-26-2010, 11:01 AM,
#36
RE: concerning comments
(11-26-2010, 10:54 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: I have been a moderator on a main stream forum with over a hundred thousand users for almost a decade

Oh please, do tell!

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11-26-2010, 12:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-29-2010, 09:40 PM by chell0w.)
#37
RE: concerning comments
Ok I did not intend to start this thread to start an unruly discussion, and I'm sorry for that to everyone.

Let's take an example. My upload "_____".
A person in the comments noticed there was a page missing, so i put it in the comments as an image.
In total I have about 15 uploads and had 50 comments or so, all of them were either interesting contributions, questions, corrections or other comments. So for me its a "big" loss. (even a simple thank-you comment can be very uplifting in this cruel world, and besides that case I spent 10hrs+ compiling the damn thing lol)

I have a few additional suggestions (I know they may not be implemenable, just throwing them in):
  • let the uploader decide if comments are allowed on it or not (disable by default)
  • make all the old comments available as a download or put them online off-site - for research purposes.
  • better linkage bewteen an upload and forum (although I fail to see the advantage beween this and just enabling comments)

Thinking about it I think the best solution a limit on making comments (2 or so per user per torrent), as I suggested in my 1st post. This shoud avoid long dicussions, insults and keeps the comment pages to what they are - comments.
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11-26-2010, 01:20 PM,
#38
RE: concerning comments
The tracker comments have all been erased by Mike.

He likes to do that.

Just kidding, they are there, but 95% of them are garbage.

If I implement a viable tracker solution, I will import all the comments.

If you spent a large amount of time on a valuable comment, you might have considered taking our advice and putting it up here on the forum.
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11-26-2010, 01:24 PM,
#39
RE: concerning comments
Quote:Nothing prevents you from doing the same on the forum.
Noted, but not as user friendly.
If one can post here why not there, but really if that's what it takes, fine be me.

I still believe the comments give an honest reflection of the general degree of maturity and how all these tidbits of superficial infos are a bigger influence than one would like to admit.

Dunamis, maybe a little less patronizing and not being all so prejudiced may suit you well. Thank you.
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11-26-2010, 08:05 PM,
#40
RE: concerning comments
Quote:give users the option to enable comments, but disable by default

I have been advocating that since all the talk of switching over to the forum for comments was started way back when.

It was (I thought) an easy work around- to just give power to members to either enable or disable comments, or selectively block the comments from individual members.
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11-26-2010, 08:07 PM,
#41
RE: concerning comments
I am in favour of this approach.
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11-26-2010, 08:30 PM,
#42
RE: concerning comments
(11-26-2010, 09:18 AM)yeti Wrote:
(11-26-2010, 09:08 AM)EvilMaster Wrote: If you would be so kind as to forward my question to the appropriate person, that would be great.

The domain belongs to the members.

If you want to make an attempt to purchase it, you're welcome to start a thread with a poll: "Do you want EvilMaster to buy concen.org?"

Good luck with that.



LOL classic......ill save that one in a special place in my nogginSmile

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11-26-2010, 09:09 PM,
#43
RE: concerning comments
time for a poll and let the users vote on whether they want comments reinstated or not
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11-26-2010, 11:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-27-2010, 12:02 AM by Ian Potter.)
#44
Concerning forums
Some interesting points made in this thread. I've not read the other 'tracker comments' threads, so this may have been mentioned, but has everyone thought about the potential impact on the forum?

Time was, [/rose-tinted spectacles], when the Concen forum was a great place to read much high level debate. There was a wealth of excellent 'borrowed' and original articles; with complex debate sure to follow. Mutual respect seemed implicit. There have been some astonishingly well put together threads here on the forum and I don't think anyone could argue with that.

Of course there were always the idiots popping in from time to time, but by and large and in my view, there was generally little working space for them to operate. The whole idea of just being a name-calling troll was just too absurd, like farting in a library.

The tracker culture on the other hand has always been a much more impulsive place and kind of dangerous; but it was also a place of humour with intelligent and yet fairly snappy debate. The 'rolling off the first page' inevitability tended to promote this by reducing the currency of each thread. It was a discernably different culture, plain and simple. There were aspects I grew to dislike, but it was fun too.

Point is, I'm not sure the tracker comments and the forum can 'merge' without losing something and I have concerns that the merger will have a tendency to debase the level of debate on the forum (to an unknown extent). Maybe it's already become debased and maybe that's why the merger doesn't seem so alien as it might have earlier. Either way, I feel sure we've lost something valuable and distinctive; but obviously I'm happy that the tracker remains online.

Just my take.
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11-27-2010, 12:01 AM,
#45
RE: concerning comments
@Ian Potter, it's great to see someone giving a brilliant example of how to articulate their concerns over the comments matter! If only some of the more angry users could take a note.
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