The Bible: Myth or History?

[Solve et Coagula]

The Bible: Myth or History?

November 8, 2010

By Richard Smoley

Every civilisation needs a myth; but woe to the civilisation whose myth has been found wanting. That is the position of Christianity today. It came to ascendance at a time when the myths of Greece and Rome had lost their credibility. The pagans themselves laughed at the stories of their gods; Plato sought to censor them. Christianity triumphed because it offered its sacred scriptures not as myth but as fact. Mystical adepts had always known that the stories in the Bible were not meant to be taken entirely at face, but as the religion degenerated into priestcraft, these insights were forgotten or suppressed.

Continue to read:
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-bible-myth-or-history

[Watchdog]

(11-20-2010, 01:52 PM)Solve et Coagula Wrote: The Bible: Myth or History?

November 8, 2010

By Richard Smoley

Every civilisation needs a myth; but woe to the civilisation whose myth has been found wanting. That is the position of Christianity today. It came to ascendance at a time when the myths of Greece and Rome had lost their credibility. The pagans themselves laughed at the stories of their gods; Plato sought to censor them. Christianity triumphed because it offered its sacred scriptures not as myth but as fact. Mystical adepts had always known that the stories in the Bible were not meant to be taken entirely at face, but as the religion degenerated into priestcraft, these insights were forgotten or suppressed.

Continue to read:
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/the-bible-myth-or-history

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

What are you trying to say?

I tried to overstand your post, but never could do it.

I think you have a point, but I can't see it clearly.

So... Rather than spit out word that only you can relate to, why don't you explain your thought..!?

[NinjB]

You too can be a "mystical adept" ://biblodiac.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/the-bible-and-the-zodiac/
Honest! the whole thing's about astrology! 2000 years of Pisces, fish(2), feet(washing) and water sign(baptised), Prior to this was Aries. Ram, lamb, fire sign(sacrifice) and when Moses came down from the mountain they had made a golden calf, well that was the end of the age of Taurus. Now we're at "the dawning of the age of aquarius" Looking for the water carrier in the city when jesus(jewish zeus) is gone at the end of the age. On a side note, NASA etc are looking for water carriers! Planets or moons with liquid water!

[Easy Skanking]

Astrotheology is the word you are looking for, NinjB. But that is only part of the sources of the Bible (as well as the Torah). They were originally accounts of the "wars" of "the gods" in the sky. In other words, the electrical interactions of the planets in a much different configuration than they are today and the resulting cataclysms that caused on the Earth.

This means that the Electric Universe theory can shed some light into what the Bible stories were actually describing and what has been corrupted and perverted over the interim time.
http://www.viewzone.com/electricaluniverse.html
http://www.theplasmaverse.com/introdis_electric_universe_bible_torah.html

There have also been many cults and other religions adopted into the books in order to control the public.

[NinjB]

"There have also been many cults and other religions adopted into the books in order to control the public."
I do agree with you! I only recognise the astrology parts 'cause that's one of my hobbies. I used to do charts for people's titillation from books pre-computer days! Now the apocalypse is here all the info you need is at the click of a mouse! Off to check out astrotheology, cheers

[tkm625]

Whoa, you guys should really watch Zeitgeist Debunked. It's been out for a few years now.

The Bible is real history from the people who were there, which is why it lines up so well with archaelogical evidence and almost all other historical accounts of the same events. The allegorical-only interpretations (such as that of astrotheology) only seem feasible if you don't ever read the Bible. If you read it in context, it's obvious that it's not talking about anything of the sort and that certain verses have been taken far out of context so they can be interpreted as meaning something different than what they actually did. Take this water pitcher man, for instance. Is this really a reference to the Age of Aquarius as most Theosophists and New Agers think, or is it just a reference to a unnamed man that hosted Jesus and his disciples for the final passover feast? Is this a prophecy of some event 2000+ years later, or is it a record of an event taking place at the time of writing? Let's look at it in context.

"Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed. And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat. And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare? And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in. And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready. And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover." Luke 22:7-13

This kinda "make the text say whatever you feel like" thing has been abused for millenia now and it's getting really old. If the Bible stories were really *that* allegorical, they wouldn't have so many mentions in passing of place and people names, and they would look more like the location-sparse Gnostic gospels/texts.

Astrotheology is interesting, no doubt, but its so speculative that I've no clue what to think, and the field doesn't seem conclusive. So many people look at the super-sparse evidence and come up with vastly different ideas. For example, compare your own thoughts on the subject with that of Chuck Missler in this video where he speaks about the Mazzaroth.

[Easy Skanking]

Sure, you beLIEve the bible if you still cling to superstition and force everything into your pre-supposed conclusion. Since you keep referring to your Zeitgeist de-bunked video instead of any other research into the field, it's apparent you reject any conflicting evidence. That dogma is seriously tired.

[R.R]

The bible is real history from the people who were there?

What about the parts before man was created????

Yahweh made the universe, earth and the fields then needed someone to till the soil? The soil tillers were told to replenish the earth by multiplying. Replenish? The first people need to replenish a place that had no people before them? Yes it all makes sense.

Then the bible followers through Rome embarked upon world conquest whilst Jews preach its their right to run the world and then another bunch with the same mythic characters plus Mohamed decided to also conquer the world. Then the bible followers decided to become protestants and went on to carry on the same imperialism in the new world through a bunch of sea faring corporations.

Then it is discovered that all those groups were controlled by mystery traditions. But of course that doesn't mean there's any mystery tradition links in the bible. Christianity is slated to be destroyed and herald the age of aquarius - exactly what we are seeing as we see the same mystery groups in charge of secular/atheistic/new age philosophy.

Now aquarius usually contains symbols to do with water. Water represents emotions so its no surprise to see the mental disorder/emotional immaturity of liberalism emerge to take over from the bible believers in dictating to others how they should think, live and behave. The old Hegelian dialectic is there with thesis (religion) clashing with antithesis (liberalism) which can only really synthesise into a hybrid of the two - spiritualised atheism or basically the new age philosophy. We will simply go full circle back into Hinduistic type hogwash updated for the age of the machines.

[NinjB]

(Aquarius is an air sign. ideas and thinking.) I can find many ,many examples of astrology in the bible and somebody into gematria could probably find many examples that tick boxes for them, and lots of christians find (possibly) some kind of satisfaction too. What would an eskimo or a kalahari tribesman do with a bible! Ghandi's the man and anybody wants to disagree will have to fight me!

[Easy Skanking]

(05-22-2014, 08:56 PM)NinjB Wrote: (Aquarius is an air sign. ideas and thinking.) I can find many ,many examples of astrology in the bible and somebody into gematria could probably find many examples that tick boxes for them, and lots of christians find (possibly) some kind of satisfaction too. What would an eskimo or a kalahari tribesman do with a bible! Ghandi's the man and anybody wants to disagree will have to fight me!

They would find similar stories and happenings to their traditions and beliefs as they all share a common origin. They all were originally accounts of the planets and their interactions which were plasma forms and electrical discharges and the resulting destruction and chaos to Earth and it's inhabitants.
Check out "Symbols of an Alien Sky" and "Thunderbolts of the Gods" and you will see much of the common symbols, stories and the reasonings behind them.
The problem with those accounts is that people started to take them out of context and use them for nefarious purposes of control and power instead of as a cosmological historical account and perhaps warning should it ever happen again.

[R.R]

Gandhi certainly helped Besant and her fellow Freemasons and Theosophists with the Home Rule Movement. Quigley wrote in the Anglo-American Establishment how western governments were essentially updating third world countries to eventually rule themselves for when those colonialists left. They basically remained as puppet states of the west. India too had an influx of British educated politicians enter its government after independence and they bought all their Marxist cronies with them too helping to further destroy an older culture and conform more to foreign interests to the point where today New World Order style Big Brother reforms are hardly questioned along with increased consumerism, corruption and Israeli involvement.

[Watchdog]

IMO, the bible in neither a myth nor an accurate historical account; it's a tool manufactured for culture creation and manipulation of the masses.

[Easy Skanking]

(05-24-2014, 07:11 PM)Watchdog Wrote: IMO, the bible in neither a myth nor an accurate historical account; it's a tool manufactured for culture creation and manipulation of the masses.

Some of it was a documentation of global cataclysms due to planetary plasma interaction and electrical discharges. The scars can still be seen on Earth, Mars, Venus and most moons today. This was where the flood stories came from as at one point the Earth changed it's rotational axis. This swamped much of the planet with the oceans as well as destroying many megalithic sites and cultures.

It was then perverted and changed to control and manipulate the masses as there is species trauma and fear from these events. Then of course you have ones like Josephus changing Roman royalty, which he supported, into the characters in the bible. King Iesus of Edessa and his family become Jesus, Mary and Joseph, for example.

[Watchdog]

Yeah, it's also a code to transmit information. Cosmic and genetics too...!

[ZeroCenter]

one can be a dumb-ass... or just read this:

http://concen.org/forum/thread-43185.html